We are often sold the myth that success cures insecurity. Brandy Clark joins us to unravel that narrative. Named one of the “30 Greatest Living Songwriters” earlier this year by the New York Times, she is also a Grammy Award-winning artist who has placed her songs with Kacey Musgraves, Miranda Lambert, Reba McEntire, and Keith Urban. In addition, she is the co-writer of the Tony Award-winning musical Shucked.

In this beautiful conversation, originally aired in November 2024, she opens up about her fifteen-year journey to a breakthrough, the courage it takes to be a gay woman in country music, and the importance of only staying in rooms where you feel like a genius.

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In This Episode:

Brandy Clark
Cyndi Forman
Dave Brainard
Shucked Musical
Ep 60 – Lori McKenna
Jessie Jo Dillon
Ep 43 – Gretchen Peters
Ep 46 – Mary Chapin Carpenter
Keith Urban
Dwight Yoakam
Brandi Carlile
Shangri-La StudioShane McAnally
k.d. lang
Ep 126 – Chely Wright
Ep 97 – Fancy Hagood

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The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s workMore about Michaela Anne’s work.


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