When Amythyst Kiah was a teenager in the suburbs of Chattanooga, Tennessee, she wanted to be âthe guitar-playing version of Tori Amos.â Locked away in her room with her headphones pulled over her ears, poring over liner notes and listening intently for every nuance in her favorite records, she found solace in the way Amos told her darkest secrets in her songs and how she turned that vulnerability into something like a superpower. It made her feel less alone, especially as a young, closeted Black girl in a largely white suburb. Tori Amos helped her survive adolescence.
Kiah didnât grow up to become any version of her hero. Instead, she simply became herself. Her new solo album, Wary + Strange, ingeniously mixes blues and folk with alternative and indie rock, devising a vivid palette to soundtrack her own songs that tell dark secrets. Itâs one of the most bracing albums of the year, grappling with matters both personal (her motherâs suicide) and public (the struggles of Black Americans). âNow, when Iâm in my mid-thirties,â says Kiah, âitâs amazing to make a vulnerable record and then have people at my shows tell me that my music helped them heal, helped them get through some hard times. To have someone connect with my music is really powerful.â
Editorâs Note: Read the first half of our BGS Artist of the Month interview with Amythyst Kiah here.
BGS: These songs are rooted in your own life and your own experiences, but they do seem like there is something universally relatable in them. Is that something you were thinking about or striving for?
Kiah: Yeah. To have someone connect with my music is really powerful. But thatâs been hard to process that idea, because for the longest time I had so much social anxiety and depression and low self-esteem. I didnât think that much of myself and couldnât imagine that anybody really cared about me. Itâs all stuff related to mental health. Obviously there are people who cared about me. I just couldnât see it. Now, Iâve come around and maybe fully grasped my value as a person and what I have to offer the world, and that has been very reaffirming. I have a better sense of who I am and why Iâm here. And it feels good to make music that helps people get through hard times.
What is it like to revisit the tough times in these songs night after night?
Iâve spent some time thinking about that, and I donât really know how Iâm doing it, to be perfectly honest. A big part of it is that I spent a really long time repressing my emotions and keeping my feelings to myself. So writing a song about how Iâm feeling is a sign that Iâve processed it. Not that Iâm moving on or Iâm done with it, whatever I might be writing about. But Iâve confronted it. Iâve learned from it. And now I can continue with my life and move forward.
A big part of my life has been living in the past and not being fully present in the moment. In order to be present, you have to be able to process stuff thatâs happening to you in that moment. Otherwise, you make decisions based on something that happened before. So, a song is a representation of me processing something and understanding what happened to me. Singing that song night after night, it doesnât feel like Iâm necessarily reliving it every time. Because Iâve already processed it. Thatâs my working theory right now. It might change.
Thatâs something I think about a lot, because as a listener I can play a song based on the mood Iâm in. But as an artist, youâre locked into these songs. You canât not play them.
I get what you’re saying. The way people listen to music is really fascinating to me. My partner and I, we approach music very differently. My approach has always been to listen to things that reflect my mood. When I was younger, that meant listening to a lot of really sad, depressing songs. Somehow that made me feel good. Iâm a very critical listener of music and I like to listen to all the different intricacies. Iâm not someone who has a vast library of music, but Iâm obsessed with certain sounds and ideas so I will listen to an album and pick apart every detail.
But my partner listens to music to shut her brain off. Her favorite artists are very different from mine. She loves a lot of pop music, like Taylor Swift. To her itâs feel-good music. You break it out and sing along. But she also listens to a lot of classical music, too. Sheâs got that ability to go back and forth with her listening vibe. That was surprising to me at first, because I used think, âHow can people listen to happy music? Donât they know whatâs happening in the world?â I would deliberately avoid happy music because I was personally insulted by it. But thanks to my partner, I can totally see that perspective where youâre listening to music that doesnât reflect the mood youâre in because youâre trying to snap out of it.
Did that change how you listened to music?
As Iâve gotten older and my mental health has gotten a lot better, I can appreciate listening to something that is just meant to be fun. It doesnât have to be a super serious moment. I think I learned how to be a lot less pretentious about what I listened to and why I listened to it, and I learned to be a lot less judgmental about other peopleâs listening habits.
Some lines in these songs sound very defiant of religion — like in âBlack Myself,â when you sing, âYour precious God ainât gonna bless me.â Can you talk about that aspect of your songwriting?
With âBlack Myself,â the idea was that each verse would be from the perspective of a specific type of person. So the first verse with that line is from the perspective of an enslaved person. Theyâre singing about wanting to jump the fence, wanting to be free, wanting to be with the one they love. If an enslaved person had a relationship or a marriage, it was never legally recognized. There was always a chance that they might get sold to different people and theyâd never see each other again. Whatever bonds they had could be broken, like they were just cattle. The line about âYour precious God ainât gonna bless me,â thatâs a direct reference to the way that pro-slavery people used Christianity as a way to justify enslaving people.
There was a Bible specifically written for enslaved people — it was even called the Slave Bible — and the people who edited it made sure to only leave in the verses that talk about being obedient. All the verses that talk about autonomy and freedom were removed. The sole purpose was to get enslaved people to be content being slaves, so they wouldnât revolt. But they were basically saying, âGod wants you to be enslaved. He wants you to serve your master. He wants you to be treated like a subhuman.â That is not a God that I would ever want to believe in or ascribe to. That line is that character saying thatâs wrong.
I’ve had one or two instances where someone got upset at that line, because they felt like I was being disrespectful to God without really understanding the context in which it’s being said. But I donât agree with that. There are people all over the world with different belief systems, and at the end of the day, if what you believe in makes you a better person and makes you have respect for humanity, thatâs wonderful. If you believe in humanity, thatâs what important to me. But why would God be OK with telling someone they have no freedom? But any time you make art, thereâs always going to be people who see one thing but not everything else surrounding it. And they base an opinion on that. Not everybodyâs going to understand the whole picture.
I read about your performances in Europe, where the crowd would sing âBlack Myselfâ back to you. It definitely seems to reinforce that idea of having a conversation with the song.
I was at the Cambridge Folk Festival with Rhiannon [Giddens], Yola, and KaĂŻa Kater. We put together a set where weâre singing our own songs and then singing harmonies for everybody elseâs. There had to be 500 or 600 English white people in this tent, and it was the first time Iâd really noticed other people singing the song or singing that line, âIâm black myself.â I remember thinking, âWhat planet are we on?â One of my biggest reservations about that song was that people would hear it and think, âOh, thatâs just for black people.â But to me, when someoneâs telling a story, itâs meant for everyone to hear. Systemic racism is something that affects everybody in different ways, so we all need to be part of the conversation if weâre going to make things better and look out for each other.
Did you get any other negative responses to the song?
My big concern was that there would be some backlash from white people who werenât really listening to the song or thinking about it. I was afraid theyâd try to make a point like, “If this was called ‘White Myself,’ youâd be canceled.” And there have actually been some comments like that, which completely disregards the fact that the song is about Blacks. Itâs about overcoming adversity despite being Black. So if someone canât hear the words of the song and actually understand whatâs happen, that says more about them than it does about me or the song. So I have no apologies for it.
But there are white people who understand what the song is about and theyâre singing in solidarity. They know that itâs about human experience. And just because you didnât personally experience some of this stuff doesnât mean youâre not allowed to sing along with it. I had a similar conversation the other day with somebody about the song âCoal Minerâs Daughterâ by Loretta Lynn. Iâm not a coal minerâs daughter. I didnât grow up in the coal mines. But I love that song and I love to sing that song. Itâs a great song about someone elseâs experiences. Empathy is such an important quality in that regard and we need allyship in order for things to get better.
Editorâs Note: Read the first half of our BGS Artist of the Month interview with Amythyst Kiah here.
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