BGS 5+5: Jonathan Terrell

Artist: Jonathan Terrell
Hometown: Austin, Texas
Latest EP: A Couple 2, 3 (out September 9 on Range Music)
Personal Nicknames: “Feral Terrell”

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I was driving back from busking in San Diego for a couple of months. I was out of money and a good friend of mine’s parents wired me $200 to get home to East Texas. I was very discouraged. I had a handful of songs that I thought were good and turned out playing for tips on the boardwalk wasn’t going to make me enough to eat and rent a couch, so on that long drive home I was somewhere in the Arizona desert on Interstate 10 and I pulled over and had a good cry. I knew at that moment I was going to be a songwriter, an artist and somebody that was going to leave an impression on this world. Before I made it to my parents’ house, I stopped at a junior college and enrolled in the music program. I got a free ride if I sang in the men’s choir because they were short of a dusty tenor. I dropped out a year and a half later to go on tour. I’ve pretty much been on tour since.

What has been the best advice you’ve received in your career so far?

My uncle was a big Nashville cat. He sang in Reba’s band and has sung high tenor harmonies on over 25,000 albums. I was obsessed with country music growing up and he was my only link from East Texas to the mecca of songwriting. I played him some terrible songs at 18 and he was very patient while listening. His advice was simple. “Don’t tell me about it. Paint it for me.”

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

I think Kris Kristofferson has got to be right there at the top. When I moved to Austin in 2005 from Longview, Texas, I thought for sure I was destined to be the next Kris. It’s pretty hilariously naive looking back, but a kid’s gotta have heroes and he was and is still mine. I’ve probably studied his songs more than anyone’s. There’s a raw and exciting poetry to his work but also an approachable simplicity. It’s a master class in songwriting and composition every time I sit down with an album like Border Lord or The Silver Tongued Devil and I. I think about these albums when I paint a picture in a song. An easy close second would be Willie.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

A good friend once told me that there’s a huge difference between having no traction at all and a little bit of traction. I first saw a little bit of that traction while playing the White Horse in Austin, Texas, week after week. When the band is crushing it and the dancefloor is packed with amazing two steppers (which I do believe Austin has the best two-step culture in the country) it’s like being in the eye of a hurricane. It’s about 105 degrees and it’s all cowboy hats, naked knees, flipping skirts and sweaty bodies churning and churning to your song. There ain’t nothing like it.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

I was doing a show up in Oklahoma with a songwriter named Butch Hancock and Turnpike Troubadours. I got to talking with Butch over a few beers in the parking lot of an old motor lodge where the venue put us up and he asked me what my hobbies were. I shrugged and said it was just writing songs. He kinda snapped at me like I was crazy and told me if I didn’t find another hobby I was going to shoot my songs in the foot. “One day your well is gonna dry up and if you don’t have another place to fill it, who knows if you’ll ever get it back.” Really terrifying words for a young songwriter. I bought a camera soon after and started studying portraits as well as documenting my tour life. Certain films and books have of course inspired many of my songs. I’m a huge Cormac McCarthy and Larry McMurtry fan. Photography has become a serious passion for me and sometimes a camera can be a great way to meet people. I have my first gallery show October 28 in Lockhart, Texas, at the Commerce Gallery. I’m pretty excited about it and am definitely inviting Butch!


Photo Credit: Greg Giannukos

BGS 5+5: Pony Bradshaw

Artist name: Pony Bradshaw
Hometown: Chatsworth, Georgia
Latest album: Sudden Opera
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Buzz (It’s more than a nickname, I suppose. All my family and friends have called me “Buzz” since I was a baby.)

What artist has influenced you the most and how?

Growing up in East Texas (Redwater, TX – Home of the Dragons and Class of ’98) I was exposed to Townes Van Zandt relatively early. Him and Lightnin’ Hopkins. My tastes have definitely broadened over the last 20 years but I will always hold Townes in a consecrated view. His poetry and spirit I use as guides, or at least a highly subjective gold standard.

But over time I’ve tried to digest myriad styles of music, mostly because I get bored, and ultimately, hopefully, creating a ‘stomach of genres’ out of my own music, melding poetry, epic, history, satire, realism, etc. Maybe create something that consumes all categories to become one in and of itself. I don’t want to be afraid of ideas that I can’t bring to an absolute conclusion. It’s more about searching and learning than wrapping a song up real nice and neat for a listener. The ego is mighty, though.

Lately, I’ve been bedeviled by the works of a Hungarian writer named László Krasznahorkai. He writes dark, philosophical fiction, seemingly post-apocalyptic, dense as shit. Long paragraph-length sentences sometimes a page long. I read an essay of his that reminded me that art can be practiced unsuccessfully and to think that success is the only way to be an artist is ludicrous. Also, it ends with, “be like a ninja.” I try to keep it in the back of my head and I’ve written it in a few places so I stumble upon it now and then.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

Over the past couple of years, songwriting has become more of a sacred act for me. More mystical. But you can’t wait around for inspiration to show her face just as you can’t beg her to accompany you in the trenches. There’s a fine line, a sweet spot, if you will, that I’ve learned to recognize. It usually means being free of outside responsibility for at least 3-4 hours straight. Dependence on uninterrupted time is paramount. Trusting your voice or instinct is essential. Once you compromise yourself it’s hard for anyone to believe a single line you mutter.

I suppose my mantra, or mission statement is a concoction of mysticism, work, self-reliance, and idleness. A mixed bag of contrarieties, but I find it a more invigorating approach. I feel it an honor to even be considered a songwriter and a traveling musician. We’re just a band of peddlers trying to spread a personal gospel. The “job” or “trade” should be treated with respect and I aim to do just that. You must know everything. The minutiae, miscellany, etc. All knowledge comes from experience, some believe. I tend to agree. Then to distill that knowledge from experience and shape it into “art”, bound with poetry and melody, is what I strive to do everyday when I settle into my work. [It’s] an eternal devotion. You must be willing to play the long game. Chipping away, in search of le mot juste.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Regarding nature, I try to get out with my kids, up in the mountains, [do] yardwork or [go] swimming somewhere. I step onto my front porch in the morning and the mountains are the first thing I see. Or we might go traipsing along, or in, one of the many rivers surrounding us, all their names derived from Southeastern Native American languages: Conasauga (Cherokee word meaning “grass”); Hiwassee (Some Cherokee say the name comes from their language, meaning “meadow or savanna,” while the Creek say it means “copperhead snake” due to its heavy population of said snake); Coosawattee (most likely a Creek word meaning “river cane”); and the Oostanaula (I like to agree with the folks that say it comes from the Cherokee word meaning “shoally” river).

We build spears out of sticks and arrowheads, tying the arrowheads on with tough long strips of leaves that look like sugar cane. The kids get all ate up with mosquitoes. It’s a good time. But the majority of my outdoor time comes from mowing or watering flowers. I’ve never been one with balance. I’m usually working on songs or reading if I’m not hanging with my kids.

What other art forms – literature, film, dance, painting, etc. – inform your music?

Literature would be the front runner. I’m a bibliophile and sometimes wish I could just get paid to read. I’m now a card-carrying member of the The Melville Society, which prints a literary journal three times a year called The Leviathan: A Journal of Melville Studies. That’s something I never saw coming 15 years ago. I watch a lot of movies, too. Even the bad ones are useful in terms of making me think from a different perspective or just gleaning information. I watched Bela Tarr’s Turin Horse a couple of months ago. He’s a lifelong friend of Krasznahorkai and they’ve collaborated on many projects. It seems the Hungarians treat art in a different manner than Americans — or the majority of Americans, to be fair. I love to paint, too. In fact I just picked up some new oil paints the other day with plans to finish a painting I started of my oldest son. I keep changing the color of his shirt. It’s been staring at me for months, unfinished, abandoned.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

I love barbecue and the best I’ve had was at B’s Cracklin BBQ down in Savannah, Georgia. He has a spot in Atlanta now, too. B (Bryan Furman) actually helped get me rolling when I started smoking pig parts and chicken at home. We’d talk about temperatures, smoke times, and types of wood, but he’d never give me the exact recipe for his rub. He’s a good dude. So, B’s barbecue, and if we could resurrect the King of Zydeco, Clifton Chenier, I believe we’d be sitting on go.


Photo credit: Tom Bejgrowicz