Basic Folk: Chris Smither & Peter Mulvey

Chris Smither has been Peter Mulvey’s mentor since back in 1993, when a young Mulvey opened for the already seasoned Smither. The blues and folk legend liked what he heard and enjoyed their similarities in creativity and quirks; he took that young man on the road with him. Their musical partnership has survived the digital age, the pandemic, parenthood, and the indictment of a former president. Along the way each has worked to influence their best habits and life lessons on the other. As far as mentor-mentee relationships go, this one is for the history books.

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In this rare joint interview on Basic Folk, we address the important questions: Why do they delight in calling each other by their last names? Smither shares that he was first called by his last name in Paris when he was in school. The two debate who has the better hometown, Milwaukee or New Orleans. Actually, it’s not so much a debate as a reflection on New Orleans music, since that is clearly the better spot to grow up as a musician.

Mulvey reflects on their musical differences, citing some of his main inspirations to be Kendrick Lamar and Ani DiFranco, versus Smither’s affinity for Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan. There are nods to David “Goody” Goodrich, Jeffrey Foucault, Kris Delmhorst and the woman behind it all, Carol Young (AKA Smither’s long-time manager, AKA his wife). We break down how each feels about fatherhood and try to get Smither to spill his secret to longevity. Spoiler alert: It’s not from remaining still.

Smither’s 20th album, All About the Bones, is out now. Peter Mulvey’s latest is the acoustic retrospective, More Notes From Elsewhere.


Photo Credit: Chris Smither by Jo Chattman; Peter Mulvey by Paul Reitano.

LISTEN: Chris Smither, “Caveman”

Artist: Chris Smither
Hometown: Amherst, Massachusetts
Song: “Caveman”
Album: More From the Levee
Release Date: October 2, 2020
Label: Signature Sounds

In Their Words: “This is one of those songs that began very innocently, pretending to be a harmless little ditty… then about halfway through it turned on me and showed its teeth, not so much with a snarl, just a simple expression of hunger and a desire to eat me up. I thought it was going to be easy to write, and it was, as long as I thought it was a ‘four stages of man’ kind of theme. But then THE WALL kept climbing into every verse, and things got heavier. Finally it consumed me. This is one of those ‘surprise hits’ in my repertoire. It’s a frequent request. Maybe I’m the only one who’s surprised.” — Chris Smither


Photo credit: Joanna Chattman

LISTEN: Zak Trojano, “Wolf Trees”

Artist: Zak Trojano
Hometown: Contoocook, New Hampshire
Song: “Wolf Trees”
Album: Wolf Trees
Release Date: August 10, 2018

In Their Words: “‘Wolf Trees’ was recorded in an open C modal tuning, giving the guitar a dark resonant tone that sounds almost like a cello. The song came out of a conversation with a friend and fellow musician about money, fame, and the American dream. The irony that reaching a goal often puts you in the unique position to see through the thin veneer of success, i.e. by the time you’re ready to play Carnegie Hall, you’re ripe enough to know that it isn’t all that different from a good show at your local spot.

It is also the sixth song out of nine, or track two on side B for those who are listening via vinyl. Its position is important because I wrote the songs as movements–or parts of a larger whole. The album deals with themes of modern life: technology, loneliness, and freedom, and the song “Wolf Trees” touches on all of them to some degree. It’s driven by a guitar part that sounds (to me) like I listened to a lot of Nick Drake and Chris Smither records, and the melody is one of my favorites. Enjoy!”


Photo credit: Anja Schutz