The Other 22 Hours: Michaela Anne & Aaron Shafer-Haiss

To celebrate our 150th episode of The Other 22 Hours, we try a bit of an experiment: interviewing ourselves, for the first time. After nearly two decades of partnership, we examine the evolution of the creative self. Michaela Anne – whose fifth record, These Are The Days, marks her first in over 10 years for which she retains total ownership – discusses the “massive shift of self” required to walk away from industry gatekeepers. Aaron Shafer-Haiss, whose compositions have scored major network dramas like Station 19 and The Good Doctor, reflects on the “utilitarian creativity” of a producer. It is a conversation about resilience, the “growth seesaw” of a creative marriage, and the realization that the dream is already happening.

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In This Episode:

Michaela Anne
Aaron Shafer-Haiss
These Are The Days
Ep 109 Major Jackson
– Nonesuch Records
Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival
Bonnaroo
Cayamo
Mountain Stage
Folks Fest
Middle Tennessee State University
Owen Biddle
Seth Taylor
Ethan Ballinger
Kyshona
Lyle Davinsky
Lauren Balthrop
Post Malone

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The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s workMore about Michaela Anne’s work.


Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

Photo courtesy of the Other 22 Hours.