3×3: Heather Thomas on Snarky Puppy, Rocky Mountains, and False Dichotomies

Artist: Heather Thomas
Hometown: Seattle, WA
Latest Album: People in Places
Personal Nicknames: On the road, my friends call me Lone Wolf. In the studio, I go by One Take Shake because of how much I love playing shakers and tambourine. There’s also Two Hand Thomas or Heather Two-Hands. HT or H-Bomb are pretty common, too.

What’s the best concert you’ve ever attended?

Best … I am having a hard time coming up with a “best.” I feel like I’ve seen tons of great shows, but nothing pops out as better than all the rest. I remember seeing Allen Stone early on and thinking he and his band put on a killer show. I loved seeing Snarky Puppy. I saw Lettuce at the Neptune and I adore Lake Street Dive. Some of my favorite local shows have been McTuff, the Black Tones, Whitney Mongé, Lowlands, Funky 2 Death, Deep Sea Diver, Duke Evers … Those are just some that stick out to me.

How many unread emails or texts currently fill your inbox?

Right now my email says 10,281 with an exclamation mark next to it.

How many pillows do you sleep with?

Two pillows side-by-side, I sleep on one of them at a time. One’s a little fluffier, the other a little flatter — depends on what feels comfortable at the time.

How many pairs of shoes do you own?

Four pairs of sneakers, 12 pairs of boots, three pairs of heels, five pairs of sandals, three pairs of slippers. I also have running shoes, rock climbing shoes, tap dancing shoes, and wrestling shoes.

Which mountains are your favorite — Smoky, Blue Ridge, Rocky, Appalachian, or Catskill?

I’m not sure which of these I’ve been to, really. I think probably I’ve driven through the Rockies on tour, so let’s go with those!

What’s your favorite vegetable?

I like carrots a lot. And broccoli. 

Fate or free will?

False dichotomy.

Sweet or sour?

Probably sweet.

Sunrise or sunset?

Sunset on the Puget Sound.

3×3: Ruston Kelly on Reigns, Rains, and Trains

Artist: Ruston Kelly
Hometown:  Nashville, TN
Latest Album: Halloween
Personal Nicknames: None

 

Thanks WMOT 89.5 for having me out today to play prolly the saddest set list ever to be broadcast. #1000graves

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If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose? 

To be in my 20s or 30s in the late ’50s.

Who would be your dream co-writer?

I had a few. Hillary Lindsey, Lori McKenna, and Natalie Hemby. I’m lucky to say that not only are they all seriously beautiful souls, but we’re buds now. Natalie and I have a piece of notebook paper officiating our brother/sister bond, actually. 

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be?

“Reigning Blood” by Slayer

What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour?

It was cigarettes, now it’s a phone charger and whatever book I’m on at the moment. 

What are you most afraid of?

Being a fucking lunatic.

Who is your celebrity crush?

Nicki Minaj

 

Ay just wait #BLACKMAGIC video coming so soon

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Pickles or olives?

Pickles, duh.

Plane, train, or automobile?

Train

Which is worse — rainy days or Mondays?

Rainy days are the best days, so I’m gonna go with Mondays!

3X3: Peridot on the ’40s, FOMO, and Frank Sinatra

Artist: Peridot
Hometown: Los Angeles, CA
Latest Album: Peridot
Rejected Band Names: One time, a producer told us we should change our band name to “Hillary’s Unicorn” or “Hillary and the Man” — both were appropriately discarded. 

If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose? 

Definitely the ’70s — but I would also say the tail end of the ’60s, as well — so let’s say 1965-1975. Also the late 1930s/early 1940s when Sinatra was getting started and dance orchestras were the thing.

Who would be your dream co-writer?

Tom Petty, John Mayer, or Ray LaMontagne.

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be?

It’s a tie between “Gimme Some Lovin” by the Spencer Davis Group or “Good Vibrations” by the Beach Boys. The best song for leaving the room would definitely be Frank Sinatra’s version of “I’ll Be Seeing You.”

What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour?

It’s a tie between good coffee and a real pillow. 

What are you most afraid of? 

I have major FOMO — “Fear of missing out”

Who is your celebrity crush? 

Sting 

Pickles or olives? 

Pickles 

Plane, train, or automobile? 

Plane — depends on the airline. Train — depends on the country. Drive — depends on how many people are in the car and how long the trip is. For now, we’ll say plane. 

Which is worse — rainy days or Mondays? 

Mondays

3×3: Lillie Mae on Time Jumping, Train Riding, and Touring without Dogs

Artist: Lillie Mae
Hometown: Nashville is home! But hometown was any RV park or parking lot across America until the year 2000 when Nashville became home. 
Latest Album: Forever and Then Some
Personal Nicknames: LM

If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose?

My decade of choice? Whatever decade will let me travel by horse … But not too early for instrument STRINGS to not be easily accessible. And I’d like to be a boy then, also, because I wouldn’t be happy wearing them hot-ass thousand-degree dresses (been there). Though they sure are pretty!

Who would be your dream co-writer?

My dream co-write? Does the dream get half????? Shoooooot, rats! 

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be?

“Raging Rivers” sung by my friend Billy Droze, written by my friend Kathy Hudson

 

Killer gig last nite !!!!!! Thanks for the photo miss jaedra Wedel!

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What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour?

Can’t survive without INSTRUMENTS and dogs. (I do survive without dogs on tour occasionally, but it’s pointless and way, way, way less fun.) Toothbrush … and a football helps things along sometimes … all the time!

What are you most afraid of?

I’m afraid of letting people down!!!!!!!! It’s my least favorite thing. Example? Possibly forgetting the words or a part or simply not performing to my capability.   

Who is your celebrity crush?

No celebrity crush this week. (I don’t have a TV or a computer, so I’m kind of out of the loop.)

 

Having a blast on the road with @BenHarper & The Innocent Criminals! by @mcspixs at Soul Kitchen last Saturday.

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Pickles or olives?

Olives, but how about less salt olives?

Plane, train, or automobile?

Hate flying, my arms are always tired when we get to the gig! (hehehehe) TRAINS every day! And I love driving, so yes to trains and cars. Preferably pick-up trucks. But I’d trade both of them for a horse or two.  

Which is worse — rainy days or Mondays?

Mondays, we get to start anew, and it was my only day off Lower Broadway for 10 years plus … and the Time Jumpers play, so we need those. And we need rainy days!!!! Both are treasured!  

Gig Bag: John Moreland

Welcome to Gig Bag, a BGS feature that peeks into the touring essentials of some of our favorite artists. This time around, we look at what Oklahoma singer/songwriter John Moreland has to have handy when he’s out on the road.

Junior Junior II: He’s an alligator head. He pretty much just chills with us. Sometimes he hangs at the merch table, sometimes he hangs on the dash. We picked him up in Florida, after some dickhead stole his father (Junior Junior Sr) from us, at a show in San Luis Obispo, California.

Sinex: It’s nasal spray. I’m totally addicted to it. I don’t care. I need it.

Dice: For gambling away your per diem in the green room.

Truckers Luv It: For when you’ve gotta drive from Charleston, South Carolina, to Indio, California.

Blue Diamond Wasabi Soy Almonds: These are almonds that taste like wasabi and soy sauce. Greatest snack ever (that you can buy from a gas station).

Fireworks: Bottlerockets. Self-explanatory.


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Healing the Heartbreak: A Conversation with Chastity Brown

“All my life, I was afraid of everything, and I wouldn’t touch what was beautiful to me,” sings Chastity Brown on “Drive Slow,” the first track on her new LP, Silhouette of Sirens. Appropriately, it’s a song filled with motion: an automotive chug toward the horizon, a call to move on and leave our ashes behind. But, like Brown herself, it’s more complex than just that. There are moments to stop, plant your feet, and savor the stillness, a rearview mirror filled with memories both sweet and sinister.

But Brown likes to move, no doubt — right now, she’s just completed a run in Denver, where she’ll be singing in Ani DiFranco’s back-up band later in the night. She certainly likes to move on, too, and Silhouette of Sirens finds the Minnesota-residing, Tennessee-born artist pondering perseverance: how to overcome and heal a broken heart with an understanding of all the many ways one can be shattered in the first place.

Now signed to Red House Records, Brown crafted Silhouette of Sirens with her longtime writing partner, Robert Mulrennan, and the result is a set of songs that exist in the perfect sweet spot between roots inspiration and modern sensibilities. And with plenty of soul-bearing honesty, too. “I try to find a way to sing where I’m not having a therapy session,” says Brown. “But I think there is a lot of longing on this record.” These aren’t songs to be heard prone on the couch anyway. “Pouring Rain” has a soul-filled groove, and “Carried Away” is a delicate but sweeping mid-tempo ode to rising up and over what sets us adrift.

You just got back from a jog — does running help you think creatively?

It helps me calm down. I think I have such high anxiety that it clears out the cob webs. I don’t do it to be entirely healthy. I just have to have something to take the edge off.

It’s been quite a bit of time since 2012’s Back-Road Highways, your last release. So much has changed since then: You have a new label, you’re five years older, we have a new president. How do you reflect back on it all?

There are mile markers that I think are physical: a record label, for one. I finished the album two years ago and, at that point, I had taken two years to make it. That was the longest I had taken for anything. And, at that time, I was also turning 33. I’m not religious or anything, but I was like, “This is my Jesus Christ year. This is my Buddha year.” Thirty-three is where you go big or go home. And I gave myself permission to actually be ambitious and gave myself permission to get what they call in the music business a “team.” To make the album, I had emotionally gone through a really dark time without realizing it, and that influenced the work. I was separating all the dark shit going on in my head with these songs I was writing with my writing partner. It wasn’t until after I finished that I was like, “Holy shit, this actually digs deep into my subconscious and exercises some demons I wasn’t ready to acknowledge.”

How so?

The music reflected itself back to me and, in one part, let me know I was quite broken, and in another part of the album, let me know I wasn’t that way anymore. It’s a fucking therapy session, but I can’t say what it feels like to be different. Though I know I’m literally in a different place than when I was making it.

Was it difficult to give up your independence and sign to a label?

Yeah, I’m a little bit — and I think my band mates can vouch for the fact that — I am a little bit controlling. But at the same time, this isn’t really possible to do alone. I had to ask people for their gifts and talent. It was difficult to relinquish some of that, but we all work really well together. I’m a 34-year-old woman who is not going to be told what to do. Working with these people on collaboration, I don’t feel like it’s me telling them what to do or the opposite. But I do have clear goals, and it wasn’t just a spur-of-the-moment decision. It was thought out, and I have to trust them. And I do.

You mentioned the album was finished two years ago, so do these songs still feel fresh to you?

I was expecting them to be old by now, but they’re not old to me. Maybe it’s just my relationship with them. For 2016, I got the incredible opportunity to tour with Ani DiFranco, and that was the real test of these songs. And I feel like they can hold their own. I still love them. But after you create, and you go on the road, and you geek out, the songs are still evolving. All I did is capture where these songs were at the time. But now I’ve changed, shit’s changed. They augment with me.

Who were you then versus now?

What I was experiencing during that dark time was having a really dark childhood. I think because of that — and the album is not about that at all — but I feel really sensitive to other people’s stories, and what I had realized is, that time period in my life broke my heart. As a child, my heart was broken, and it has taken me so long to mend that and allow love in my life. So the overall theme came out that there are different types of heartbreak. Of course there are love songs, but there are other things that break your heart. There is more to life than songs about coupled relationships — though I love those — but this is a little bit broader. A macro view of different types of heartbreak informed by my own personal heartbreak.

You’re singing with Ani tonight and you’ve opened for her in the past. That must have been an amazing, informative experience.

Yeah. Shit. I’ve said this before: It’s the most generous thing that any artist has done. She’s showed me how it’s done, in a different way. I’ve been touring for 10 years, but there are different things at her level, which you can only see from there. In the folk world, it’s generational, passing things down. It’s huge to me, how generous she’s been. And it’s a good affirmation that someone I respect gives me a thumbs up.

Did you have conversations with her about what it means to be a politically engaged artist?

Well, I don’t think we talk in terms of what things mean. We were out on the road when Trump was elected president, and what we talked about was how to act, and in what capacity. We have such a privilege, all across the country: When you step on stage, you are the loudest person in the room. I feel like Ani teaches by showing. She stands in her integrity so fiercely, it made me want to articulate even more what matters to me. Like how Black Lives Matter has been a huge cornerstone in what I talk about from stage the past year-and-a-half, and it will be until I feel like folks get it. You’d be surprised how many “liberal” audiences have a rebuttal to that.

Really?

I remember in Utah, I was talking about this Nina Simone song and I said, “I play this because Black lives matter.” And this woman was like, “All lives matter!” I want to use compassion to educate people, but at the same time, God, that woman fucking infuriated me. But it wasn’t the time. Going back to what to do as an artist during these times, it’s to use your voice in the capacity of your life. I’m from Tennessee; I have family members who voted for Trump. And those are family members I love, and I can’t pretend that they are evil. But I can get down and dirty in a difficult conversation, trying to figure out where they are coming from.

Have you written any overtly political songs?

I have, but none that I would play out. One of the titles was like, “Fuck You Pieces of Shit!” An ongoing rant. I was like, maybe I can kind of hone it in! But I have been creating. A lot of people are saying, “What are artists going to say as a comeback to all this?” And I’ve heard some incredible work that’s going after how fucked up our government is, but there are other things to focus on. Like the beauty of being a brown woman and celebrating that. There was a time after so many police shootings, all the songs I was writing were really angry. But Solange [and her 2016 LP, A Seat at the Table] was a great reminder of “Yo, let’s talk about our beauty.” And we should.


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3×3: Levy and the Oaks on a Love of Olives, a Fear of Heights, and a Dream of Macca

Artist: Duane Okun (of Levy & the Oaks)
Hometown: Asbury Park, NJ
Latest Album: Levy & the Oaks
Personal Nicknames (or Rejected Band Names): Levy, the Levees

If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose?

The ’60s. It seemed so exciting. Everything was changing into this new era. I recently watched 11.22.63 which stars James Franco as someone who goes back in time to stop the assassination of JFK. I love the cars and how everyone is dressed so stylishly. 

Who would be your dream co-writer?

Paul McCartney. To even have someone as legendary as him listen to your song would be an honor. Writing a song together would be a dream. I’d keep a recording of it at all times so I can always be like, “Hey, I don’t know you, but you gotta listen to this song I did with Macca!”

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be?

“Trololo” by the late great Eduard Khil.

What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour?

Clean socks. If you don’t have clean socks, you got nothing.

What are you most afraid of?

Heights. I must have fallen to my death in a past life.

Who is your favorite superhero?

When I was a kid, I liked Beast from X-Men. Even though he barely fought in the old animated TV show.

Pickles or olives?

Olives!

Which primary color is the best — blue, yellow, or red?

Red. Sexy.

Which is worse — rainy days or Mondays?

Mondays. I tend to come up with some good musical ideas on rainy days. Maybe it’s to do with the sound of all that dripping and tapping.

3X3: Eric & Magill on Socks, Sloths, and Sneakers

Artist: Eric & Magill
Hometown: Presently Washington, DC/Ann Arbor, MI via Kenya/Brooklyn via Milwaukee, WI
Latest Album: Peach Colored Oranges
Personal Nicknames:
Ryan: Big Webs, Mzee Webs, Party Webs, Euro Webs, Ray Ray, REW, 
Eric: Soda, EMO (far less exiting than Ryan’s)

 

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If you could safely have any animal in the world as a pet, which would you choose?

Ryan: I would love a capybara. It’d be like a dog-sized hamster and the only pet I’ve ever really had besides backyard ducks were some hamsters. 

Eric: I would go with a sloth. My daughter told me last night over dinner that sloths only poop once per month. Seems pretty low maintenance.

Do your socks always match?

Ryan: I never used to match my socks. Now they match like 75 percent of the time. 

Eric: I never have any idea whose socks I’m wearing, but they are both usually the same color.

If you could have a superpower, what would you choose? 

Ryan: Time travel because I love to travel.

Eric: Turning water in to wine sounds nice … and economical, too.

 

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What’s your go-to road food? 

Ryan: Fritos. It blows my wife’s mind whenever I buy them at a gas station when we’re on a road trip since I could choose anything and, in her opinion, I choose a the most flavorless snack available. 

Eric: Taco Bell has stood the test of time. Being on the road is the only time that I allow myself to eat fast food.

Who was the best teacher you ever had — and why?

Ryan: My high school Spanish teacher because she had/has passion for what she did and was kind and taught me how to roll my rs — something I still enjoy doing.

Eric: My high school English teacher because she wore Dr. Martens boots, dyed her hair orange, and exposed me to Vonnegut and Tom Robbins.

What’s your favorite city?

Ryan: I can’t choose just one. Yerevan, Beirut, Bangkok, Amsterdam, New York, Medellin, a tiny oasis village in the Kenyan bush called Kiwawa … and I love where I live and the people that live around me right now here in Washington, D.C.

Eric: I still love Milwaukee (where Ryan and I both came from) and Austin, but Brooklyn holds a very special place in my heart. After living there for four years and being exposed to amazing people, food, and culture, it made it very hard to leave.

 

#tbt or promise of the sax/acoustic solo Eric record that has been in the works for the past 25 years?

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Boots or sneakers? 

Ryan: Boots with rubber soles unless I’m on a run with Eric. (We like to jog together when we get together.)

Eric: Ditto for me!

Which brothers do you prefer — Avett, Wood, Stanley, Comatose, or Louvin?

Ryan: Brothers Grimm

Eric: The Brothers Johnson. Who doesn’t love funk?

Head or heart? 

Ryan: Left kidney (stronger than ever).

Eric: Lead with the heart and bring in the head for the close.

3×3: The Harmed Brothers on Horchata, Hangovers, and Having Gold Bond on Tour

Artist: The Harmed Brothers
Hometown: We’re from all over, but based out of Portland, Oregon.
Latest Album: The Harmed Brothers
Personal Nicknames (or Rejected Band Names): The Spicy Boi’zzz
Ray Vietti: Donnie, The Cayenne Kid
Alex Salcido: Baby Gorgeous, Sal Pal, Horchata
Matt McClure: Mickey, Habenero Caballero 
Ryan Land: Randy, Black Pepper (fresh ground)
Tyler Giles: Giles Giles, Milky Pete
Milky Pete and Horchata keep us kewl

If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose?
Ray: The ’50s
Alex: The ’80s
Matt: 1690s
Ryan: 1820s
Tyler: The ’70s

Who would be your dream co-writer? 

Tom Petty, Ryan Adams, Jeff Tweedy

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be? 
Ray: “Silly Love Songs” — Wings
Alex: “Let’s Get It On” — Marvin Gaye
Matt: “Break Stuff” — Limp Bizkit
Ryan: “Crimson and Clover” — Tommy James and the Shondells
Tyler: “Set ‘Em Up Joe” — Vern Gosdin

What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour?
Ray: Gluten Freedom
Alex: Laughter
Matt: Silence
Ryan: Gold Bond
Tyler: Milk

What are you most afraid of?
Ray: Hangovers 
Alex: Drowning 
Matt: Nothing and/or everything
Ryan: Not having Gold Bond
Tyler: A Cubs repeat 

Who is your favorite superhero?
Ray: Spidey
Alex: Superman
Matt: Batman
Ryan: Rambo
Tyler: Quailman

Pickles or olives?
Ray: Pickles
Alex: Pickles
Matt: Pickles
Ryan: Olives
Tyler: Olives

Which primary color is the best — blue, yellow, or red?
Ray: Blue
Alex: Blue
Matt: Blue
Ryan: Blue
Tyler: Red

Summer or Winter?
Ray: Summer
Alex: Summer
Matt: Winter
Ryan: Winter
Tyler: Winter

3X3: Chris Jones on Salad Shooters, Green Olives, and Working Pens

Artist: Chris Jones
Hometown: Brooklyn, NY
Latest Album: Made to Move
Personal Nicknames: Jonesey, Doops (childhood), Mr. Gwiforbidees (also childhood, and I swear I didn’t make that up)

 

Last week at #wideopenbluegrass in #raleigh #cjnightdrivers @jonweisberger @mountainhomemusic

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If you could go back (or forward) to live in any decade, when would you choose and why? 

Which decade had Duran Duran and the Salad Shooter? Seriously, though, I’d have to say the 1940s. Just the opportunity to be alive for the start of bluegrass music and bebop would be amazing, plus I just like the look of things from that period, from cars to clothes to telephones.

Who would be your dream co-writer and why? 

I have to say that, in the last few years, I’ve already gotten to write with my dream co-writer, and that is Tom T. Hall. Long before we were friends, I was in awe of his perspective, and his ability to boil the complex down into a simple and poetic phrase. I guess that means I can quit now and pursue my alternate dream of becoming an ice cream man.

If a song started playing every time you entered the room, what would you want it to be? 

“Along Came Jones” by the Coasters (even though they never say what Jones does once he gets there).

What is the one thing you can’t survive without on tour? 

A working pen. I like to write stuff by hand, and I feel naked without one. For the spur of the moment song idea, and for writing set lists, I’ve got to have one.

What are you most afraid of? 

Fear itself, to borrow from FDR. As individuals and as a society, we spend a lot of energy being afraid of the wrong things, and it tends to paralyze us and keep us from really living and loving. Now the high diving board is another story.

Who is your favorite superhero?

I’d have to go with the Green Hornet. He’s a snappy dresser, plus he’s got a bodyguard with martial arts skills and a cool car that will start with the push of a button. (I’ll admit that was more exciting back before a lot of mid-sized rental cars could do that, too.)

 

At the Old Feed Store, photo by John Longmire #cjnightdrivers #bluegrasslife #carbondalemusic #madetomove

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Pickles or olives?
Olives, garlic-stuffed, but not right before greeting fans at the merch table.

Which primary color is the best — blue, yellow, or red? 

Blue

Summer or Winter? 

Winter all the way. I own at least four pairs of long johns and a pair of cross-country skis I’ve had since I was 14.