WATCH: Plains (Katie Crutchfield and Jess Williamson), “Problem With It”

Artist: Plains (Waxahatchee’s Katie Crutchfield and Jess Williamson)
Song: “Problem With It”
Album: I Walked With You a Ways
Release Date: October 14, 2022
Label: ANTI-

In Their Words: “I’m thrilled to announce this new project and album. I’ve felt a connection to Jess’s songwriting and a kinship with her since we met years ago. Getting to lean into the influence of the music we both grew up with while also making something that feels very current and fresh to me was a great experience and I’m so happy to finally share it.” — Katie Crutchfield

“Making this record with Katie was a deeply expansive experience for me as a songwriter. I really trust her ear and sensibilities, and she encouraged me to explore aspects of my songwriting that in the past I’ve shied away from. Katie’s support was so important for me as we wrote this album. We gave ourselves permission to lean into the music that raised us and write the kind of classic timeless songs that we both grew up singing along to. For me that was The Chicks and Dolly Parton, and having a place to channel those influences was an absolute blast. My hope with Plains was to tap into something universal. I love the album we made, and I’m so excited to play it live.” — Jess Williamson


Photo Credit: Molly Matalon

LISTEN: Wyatt Easterling, “Throw Caution to the Wind”

Artist: Wyatt Easterling
Hometown: Chapel Hill, North Carolina (now Nashville)
Album: From Where I Stand
Track: “Throw Caution to the Wind”
Release Date: July 29, 2022

In Their Words: “I wrote this with Thomas Anderson. It was our first co-write and it felt magical. We wrote it during the summer of 2019 when everyone was exhausted with the headlines. I had this hook and wanted to write a ‘get the hell out of Dodge’ kind of song. I love the carefree view the singer takes about where he and his lover are stuck in their lives and their willingness to chuck it all and go on a life adventure, let the chips fall where they may!

“Thomas and I started this record working off a drum track we put together in the studio with a keyboard bass line for me to put down my guitar track in my home studio: ‘Wyatt’s Woodshed Studio.’ You wouldn’t know it to hear it now on the album, but we began calling this track our red-headed stepchild. It took three attempts to get the right tempo, the right vibe on the electric guitar. We tried everything from too twangy, to too slick, and settled on the almost-Bakersfield vibe we have now. We didn’t set out to meet any genre but instead tried to stay out of the way and let the song lead us.

“Ultimately I took Mike Rosado, my drummer, and along with Thomas we went to County Q in Nashville to cut live drums with Jimmy Carter on bass. That’s when we started to feel more comfortable about the vibe, the direction, and the overall picture of the track. Mixing was another ‘get the stubborn mule in the barn’ moment! At first, I was a little timid about rocking it too much for fear of Folk radio. I decided on the way to mix that I was going to let the dog off the chain, so to speak, and let it be what it needed to be. So glad I did.” — Wyatt Easterling

Wyatt Easterling · Wyatt Easterling Throw Caution To The Wind

LISTEN: Hayley Sabella, “Alive (But I’m Tired)”

Artist: Hayley Sabella
Hometown: Plymouth, Massachusetts
Song: “Alive (But I’m Tired)”
Release Date: July 29, 2022

In Their Words: “I wrote ‘Alive (But I’m Tired)’ when the world began to open back up after the quarantine phase of the pandemic. It’s a fun, up-tempo summer jam with driving electric guitar and a playful melody that wrestles with some hard questions many of us are asking ourselves as we try to keep up with our rapidly filling schedules, while simultaneously offering a much needed energy boost. In full candor, the exhaustion that I feel and that so many of us are feeling has brought about many doubts and delays in putting new music out there again. But when I listen to this song — I feel more optimistic. And my hope is that it has the same effect on its listeners.” — Hayley Sabella

HayleySabella · Alive (But I’m Tired) (16bit Master Version A)

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LISTEN: Nick Nace, “The Harder Stuff”

Artist: Nick Nace
Hometown: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada. Currently in Nashville.
Song: “The Harder Stuff”
Album: The Harder Stuff
Release Date: July 29, 2022
Label: North/South

In Their Words: “Every country/folk singer needs a drinking song and this is my spin on the well-worn topic. The title is a play on words. It encompasses the trials and tribulations of everyday life and the comforting notion that at the end of the day whiskey is one thing that never seems to go bad. I also thought it was a fitting title for the album overall as the last couple years have really brought us all face to face with what I call the harder stuff.” — Nick Nace

NickNace · The Harder Stuff

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Kristin Scott Benson Shares Her Essential ’80s Bluegrass Banjo Tracks

I started playing banjo in 1989 and like most people, once I was hooked, I devoured all the banjo I could find. In my quest for the latest, coolest bluegrass, I ended up covering most of the music recorded in the ’80s. It took years to discover because (brace yourself, kids) there was no streaming or internet to bring it to us. We found music by buying CDs, listening to friends’ CDs, going to shows, and trial and error. In this list, I tried to represent the successful bands and players from the decade, who were recording music just before I fell in love with banjo.

Seeing Scott Vestal with Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver is what made me want to play, so his “Up on the Blue Ridge” is of special significance. I played along with Bill Emerson’s instrumental album, Home of the Red Fox, for countless hours. Sonny’s cut on “Listening to the Rain” (sung by Paul Brewster) is still a bit mystifying. I was sure I had two of these key phrases exactly right, but Sonny never thought I did. Shocking, I know. Thing is, he wasn’t entirely sure how he played them either.

Some of my favorite current music from formative years just missed the deadline, like Alison Brown’s “Simple Pleasures,” which was released in 1990, but I tried to stick with the ’80s only. I love these banjo players, bands, and songs. To this day, if I get sleepy driving in the middle of the night, I can turn on this music and get a second wind. I hope you enjoy these 19 glimpses into the ’80s. — Kristin Scott Benson


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BGS 5+5: Lonesome River Band’s Sammy Shelor

Artist: Lonesome River Band (answered by Sammy Shelor)
Hometown: Floyd, Virginia
Latest Album: Heyday

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

Tony Rice. Tony changed the sound of bluegrass music through the 1970s and ’80s with his rhythm and lead guitar. He made rhythm guitar the leader of the band. His album Manzanita was the best practice tool for a banjo player ever. It was a bluegrass album without a banjo so I could play along with it and create my own ideas without being influenced by another banjo. I was fortunate to get asked to play some Tony Rice Unit gigs in the late 1990s and early 2000s. He then did some gigs with Lonesome River Band a couple of years later, and we learned a lot of the early Tony material and Bluegrass Album Band stuff. Nothing more memorable than playing shows with your hero!

What has been the best advice you’ve received in your career so far?

Most of my influences in music became my friends, so I had access to a wealth of knowledge and advice about the business. I would say the best advice was treat your audience with respect on and off stage and make them your friends. They will support you forever.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I started messing with banjo at the age of 5. I learned as much as I could from my grandfather who played and other local musicians. In the 1970s, Wayside Park in Stuart, Virginia, became a really big bluegrass festival and brought in the top names in bluegrass at the time. After seeing bands like the Osborne Brothers, Seldom Scene, JD Crowe & the New South, and many others, I began to dream of doing what they were doing. I spent my teenage years putting in a lot of practice learning from all of those bands and listening to as many different banjo players as possible to learn everything I could.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I grew up and still live in the rural areas in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. I can take 10 steps from my house and be in the woods and enjoy walking and taking in all nature has to offer. It keeps your mind from getting cluttered and open to your surroundings. Everything in nature is musical.

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

I always try to find some quiet time before a show to get my head together. Then try to warm up on banjo for at least 30 minutes prior. I have two young sons at home, so rehearsal time at the house is nonexistent these days.


Photo Credit: Sandlin Gaither

LISTEN: Chris Pierce, “45 Jukebox”

Artist: Chris Pierce
Hometown: Los Angeles, California
Song: “45 Jukebox”
Release Date: July 22, 2022

In Their Words: “A traditional 45 Jukebox is a coin-operated phonograph with an illuminated cabinet, having a variety of records that can be selected by the drop of a dime and the push of a button. This song examines the journey as a songwriter and the internal process of the spirit for the songs to come to surface. It’s about the rigorous and demanding road of putting the truth on the line and wearing your heart on your sleeve day by day, night after night. There is a road to freedom in songwriting, recording and performing. It’s about being vulnerable and standing on the edge with your finger on the pulse, awaiting that drop of a dime and dedicating the soul and spirit to that moment when your song makes its way through the speaker and into the heart.” — Chris Pierce


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Can Banjo Transcend Cultural Divisions? Bill Evans’ New Album Makes the Case

As a scholar and a musician, Bill Evans is deeply committed to sharing the complex historical context of the banjo while maintaining a musical style all his own. As a professional player, he specializes in bluegrass music; but one need only talk to him for a few minutes to understand that his influences stretch far and wide, encompassing everything from The Beatles to composer Frank B. Converse.

What started out as the concept for a dissertation became an ever-evolving musical show centered around the five-string banjo as a tool of what he describes as “African- and Anglo-American musical and cultural exchange.” When Evans began working with Tiki Parlour Recordings, this project took on a new form. His Banjo in America project covers more than 200 years of banjo history. Every element of this DVD & CD set honors the complexity of this history. The richly detailed liner notes, the graphic design, the photographs, the wide variety of instruments used, and the track list together form a cohesive package that is a righteous testament to the multifaceted history of the banjo. BGS was honored to talk with Evans about the conversations happening in the roots-music community regarding this instrument.

BGS: When did you start playing music?

Evans: I grew up in Norfolk, Virginia. I had piano lessons from a woman who played organ at the local church, and that laid the groundwork for my understanding of the basic concepts of music. But I usually tell people that the event that changed my life was the Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show. I was only 8 years old, but I have this vivid memory of the entire world looking different after that, and I was intensely interested in music from that point on. I started looking at acoustic guitars, and back then you could go down to the local music store and get a Peter, Paul and Mary book with guitar tablature. I started that in the fifth grade, and if the chord was too hard for my hands to wrap around, I just didn’t play that chord.

I learned fingerpicking, and then, when I was in high school, a music store opened in Norfolk called Ramblin’ Conrad’s Guitar Shop & Folklore Center. I started hanging out there. You could listen to records, and you could play instruments, and I ended up being mentored by musicians who were all older than me. I had albums to listen to and supportive people and a coffee house on Friday nights where we could go and perform. I was fortunate to have, at a crucial point in my life, a nurturing environment that directed my learning. I was already into bluegrass banjo, and at every folk festival I got exposed to lots of different music. John Jackson. Tracy Schwartz. Mike Seeger. Libba Cotten.

Did you come from a musical family?

No. What got me interested in the banjo was a television show called Hee Haw. It was hosted by Roy Clark and Buck Owens. They had a routine every week where Roy and Buck would play “Cripple Creek” and tell jokes, and they also had a banjo segment. I could see Roy Clark picking, and I could visualize and hear the relationship between what I was doing to what I needed to do. I’ve heard from other banjo players that it was the sound of the instrument that got them; that’s true for me, too.

Having a supportive community to help me to funnel my learning was very helpful. By the time I got to college at the University of Virginia in 1974, I was well on the way and was consumed by it. By then I had a sense of how to seek out sources and make musical connections, both with other students and with the local pickers. There was a coffeehouse in Charlottesville called the Prism. My suitemates were all doing rush for fraternities, but I was hanging out at the Prism, getting to hear all these performers, and working on banjo.

I would spend hours and hours practicing, and then I started working at theme parks. A lot of young players got their first professional experience through those venues. I was pretty much set to be a professional musician. I graduated in 1978 with a degree in anthropology and religion. I played the whole summer with a band based out of Louisville, Kentucky, called the Fall City Ramblers. I was on my way and I’ve never looked back. I’ve made my living and raised my kids by being a professional musician all these years, and I’m almost 66 now, so I feel blessed.

How did the Banjo in America project start congealing into a cohesive form?

I’ve been interested in banjo history for a long time. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, three events were held by the Tennessee Banjo Institute. There have always been specialists in these styles that I’m exploring. There are folks who specialize in “minstrel banjo,” mid-19th-century banjo. Other folks specialize in what we call “classic banjo,” which encompasses the music of the ragtime era. The Institute brought in the experts in those styles. Pete Seeger, Béla Fleck, musicians brought from Africa. A lot of us got exposed to these historic styles and made these connections through the sound of the instruments and the knowledge that these incredible musicians brought to the events.

Early on in graduate school, I was thinking about writing a dissertation on…I’ll use the word “Africanisms.” That dissertation that never got written was on the continuing African influence in all of these banjo styles. There are a lot of things going on with a project like this, but I want to be clear that I’m always recognizing the African and African American influence. This project is coming out at a time when we’ve been talking about this process of appropriation and revitalization for several years, and we’ve got great Black performers playing the banjo and spreading the word about this history.

In the mid-1990s, as a result of the Tennessee Banjo Institute, I bought a mid-19th-century banjo replica. Then I bought an open-back banjo and I started digging into these manuals. And I started accumulating more instruments as I went. It was a continual process of getting instruments, exploring the styles, coming into contact with people at banjo workshops, and continuing to learn, continuing to talk to folks who had written about all this. As time went by, I realized that I needed to make the show more entertaining. I wanted to make it appropriate for a general audience. I try to make it an entertaining show where people can come out having gained an understanding of the complexity of the cultural exchange over hundreds and hundreds of years. In some ways, the story of the banjo is the story of America.

What was your process for contextualizing these tunes and this project?

It’s a wonderful moment right now, the way the younger people who are playing old-time music are looking at this whole process of African and African American and Anglo-American exchange. I think of this as an ongoing dialogue in which we’re all hopefully learning from each other, gaining strength from one another, and being inspired by one another. I’m hoping that this project is a contribution to the dialogue. The more that we can hear these historic styles, the richer our comprehension can be of the nature of the cultural exchange. The more we can understand the history of the banjo and carry that to a broader vision of all of us playing the banjo, all of us celebrating the banjo, and using it to transcend some of our cultural divisions.

In addition to presenting all these historical styles, I play things the way that I play them. Many of the pieces on this recording I’ve been playing for over 30 years, and the whole project is the result of my involvement of over 50 years with this community. If this project can contribute in some way to the dialogue that’s going on about white appropriation of what’s essentially Black music, I will be very happy.

How do the graphic design and visual elements of the album fit in, and how did this aesthetic element come into being?

I let Howard [Rains, the graphic designer] and David [Bragger, co-founder of Tiki Parlour] run with it. There was a tradition in the 1800s of creating a “toy theater” – a very elaborate miniature stage cut out of paper. It’s three-dimensional, and you put actors on the stage, so we started off with that idea. I didn’t have a whole lot of input. I did choose the photographs. They got very excited about it, and I did, too. It’s this blending of sensibilities that is kind of remarkable.

That leads perfectly into my last two questions. First, how many instruments do you play on this project?

Ten, and among the oldest banjos is the zither banjo from England, on track number nine. And the Vega White Lady, which is from 1917. The gourd banjo that starts the project is a modern-day interpretation made by Pete Ross, and the three instruments that I’m using for the mid-19th-century portion of the program are made by Jim Hartwell. So, these aren’t the real deal, but they’re really close in specs and sound to instruments that exist in archives.

Second, what’s your favorite track on the set, if you have a favorite? And why?

“Home Sweet Home,” the sixth track. This is an 1871 arrangement. It’s astounding, the degree of technical expertise that was written into this piece at such an early date. The composer, Frank B. Converse, was partly responsible for bringing fingerstyle playing to banjo music. Louis Gottschalk arranged “Home Sweet Home” and Converse lifted the arrangement. I have added to it as I’ve gotten to be at home with the piece, which is definitely technically demanding. So that’s the piece that I like the most because it encapsulates a lot of things for me…and it’s fun to play.


Photo Credit: David Bragger

LISTEN: Bendigo Fletcher, “Pterodactyl”

Artist: Bendigo Fletcher
Hometown: Louisville, Kentucky
Song: “Pterodactyl”
Release Date: July 22, 2022
Label: Elektra Records

In Their Words: “‘Pterodactyl’ was a kind of self-soothing progression that gradually bloomed with instrumentation and textures in the studio. And the live performance is an opportunity for Andrew, Evan and me to harmonize together for almost every word of a song, which is really refreshing and fun to exercise the special chemistry we’ve found over the years. The repetitive rhythm feels like walking to the park in my neighborhood and just trying to feel peace. I spent a lot of time during the first few months of the pandemic at Cherokee Park in Louisville thinking about geology and the layers of earth that touch our present lives and connect us to our ancestors. Ultimately, it’s a reflection on the inspiration I take from the feeling of togetherness in both my relationship and in humanity in general.” — Ryan Anderson, Bendigo Fletcher


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Arlo McKinley Explains How Bluegrass Singers and Guitarists Shaped His Sound

For Arlo McKinley, melody is a secret weapon. He sings about grief, addiction and bad decisions throughout his new album, This Mess We’re In, and the songs stick with you — the rugged emotions and the catchy choruses alike. After listening a few times, there’s a silver lining that emerges, one that provides illumination into his life now.

Now in his early 40s, the Cincinnati musician nurtured his songwriting craft the old-fashioned way, by testing out material to small crowds, absorbing the structure of songs on classic vinyl, and trusting the positive response to his early work even when he wasn’t so sure himself. This Mess We’re In is his second record for Oh Boy Records, the indie label co-founded by John Prine (who was himself a big fan and signed McKinley to the roster).

In this backstage interview with BGS prior to an album kickoff show at Nashville’s Brooklyn Bowl, McKinley also reveals a few of his favorite bluegrass artists and the way the genre has inspired the way he plays guitar.

BGS: You returned to Memphis to make this record, so I’m curious, what was the vibe in the studio this time around?

Arlo: This time, it was different. Die Midwestern [released in 2020] was my first time working with a producer and a studio band. Die Midwestern wasn’t rushed, but we did it in six or seven days. And this time I was down there for two weeks, so it was more comfortable. I had already worked with Matt, and he and I talked during that entire time [between albums]. I had become good friends with Matt and all the guys in the band. This time it was just easy, a lot less stressful. I was much more comfortable, and with the vibe of it all, we got to be a little more creative and really work with each other.

I can hear that comfortable nature and that confidence in the delivery. Did you approach your singing differently on this record than you have on the past records?

Yeah, I think so. I was singing and trying to maybe do things I wouldn’t have always done in the past. One thing about Die Midwestern, we all were coming out of colds, so there’s a lot of that album — a lot of people can’t really hear it, but me personally, I can tell and it always kind of bugged me a little bit. But I love that album. I’ve always been a singer way before I was a songwriter. This one, I just wanted to show vocal ability more. That was important on this album.

How did you get your musical education? Was it a radio station or someone’s collection?

It was a mixture of all that. Music was always in my home, but the church was a big thing. We went to a Baptist church when I was a kid. And that’s the first time I saw that music can bring emotion to people. Because we were in a Baptist church, it’s pretty much three-chord songs with a little bit of harmony. And then my dad had one of the best classic bluegrass vinyl collections and classic country vinyl collections that I have ever seen. And my brothers — I am the youngest of three — had punk rock and metal vinyl, so if my brothers weren’t home, I was in there going through their records. If they’d get home and kick me out, then I’d go to my dad’s room and listen. But someone was always listening to music. I mean, my earliest memories have music in them. My parents would sing, my dad played his acoustic guitar, and you would hear them singing in the hall. It was always around. It came from everywhere. That was kind of what we did as a family.

Were there certain bluegrass albums or bluegrass artists that really grabbed your attention?

Oh, I was always a Seldom Scene fan. And then The Country Gentlemen, my dad would always listen to that stuff. And then a little later, Doyle Lawson and the singer for IIIrd Time Out — Russell Moore. He is one of my favorite singers of all time. I’m nothing like bluegrass, really, at all, but that voice was always there. And then Larry Sparks was also a big one. We cover “John Deere Tractor” quite often. So yeah, I love that stuff so much. It was a big, big part.

Did any of that shape the way you play guitar?

I think it showed me to just keep it simple, for me, because I can’t play like that. [Laughs] It taught me that I’m just a rhythm guitar player. I can’t get my head to tell my hand to move like that. It’s amazing, that kind of playing, and it definitely shaped what I like to do vocally with harmonies. I like to layer my harmonies a lot on albums, and that comes from a lot of the old bluegrass albums.

As you were finding your own voice over the years, do you remember a point where you started to sound different, or you started to sound like you?

Yeah, I listen to old albums now and I think we were just trying to maybe sound like Bruce Springsteen. Or we were listening to Whiskeytown a lot, so maybe we were trying to sound like Ryan Adams. But it wouldn’t have been until writing these songs, probably in 2010, that I really found my voice as a front man singer as well. Because I was always a harmony singer. That was always my thing. This is all relatively new and it’s all kind of gone in crazy directions.

What were some of the jobs you held as you were developing this music career?

I worked for probably over 10 years all together, off and on, for a tuxedo store. We were delivery drivers that would take them to the stores. Then the company got bought out in Cincinnati and the headquarters moved to Michigan, up by Detroit. So, they needed someone to go up there three to four times a week, overnight. I literally would drive in to work and pick up a van that had dirty tuxedos in it. I’d drive up past Detroit, get out, get another van that had clean ones, then bring those back down that day. Then the other drivers would come and take them to stores. I would have 14- or 15-hour nights of just driving. I did that for the longest time. That’s where a lot of the songs for the first album [2014’s Arlo McKinley & the Lonesome Sound] came from. Just from those ideas in my head and listening to a lot of different music. It was a good job, and that’s the last job that I ever had. Then I quit and said I was going to try to go all in.

It worked! What has surprised you the most about the career you have now?

There’s nothing about it that doesn’t surprise me. It comes off the wrong way, I think, when I say it, but there’s never anything else I wanted to do. In a way I think I knew that I could do something in music if I applied myself to it, and really tried to do it. I think that kind of went away for a minute because I wasn’t very confident in my songwriting, but I was a good singer. I still wanted to sing. Then after that Lonesome Sound album that people really were responding to, I thought, well, maybe my songs aren’t so generic, lyrically. I mean, I thought the straightforwardness of it maybe wouldn’t be appealing to a lot of people and I was very wrong. But yeah, I don’t know, it all still surprises me. All of it, in some ways. But then in other ways I think I knew that something could happen if I worked hard at it.

Where did you get your work ethic from, do you think?

For music stuff, it just came from watching other bands, and always going to shows and seeing who was sticking around and who was still doing it. At first you have to face the hard truth of, “Is it good? Is what I’m doing good?” A lot of people won’t accept that sometimes. But if you’re doing something, and you know it’s good, and you’re willing to do the work for it, I think that’s what it was. I saw bands that were really good. And then come 2013, 2016, I started playing with Tyler Childers a lot. And me and John R. Miller, a lot of us, would be on shows in front of 10 people. And watching him do what he did as well. Watching other musicians do their thing is what put that in me.

This new record’s out on vinyl, too. Have you listened to this record on vinyl yourself?

Yeah. I got one spin in right before I came here. I had to end up snagging one out of the box and bringing it home with me, when we first got them. And yeah, it was my first time hearing it on vinyl. It’s everything I wanted. It brings a whole new life to it, really. I’ve been listening to it on my phone. I’ve had it on my computers. I’ve been listening to it through speakers. But to be able to put the needle down and let it go from Side A… It’s just a different thing. I am almost more proud of it now. I didn’t think that was possible because I already thought I made the record that I wanted, but now I know for sure, after giving it that spin.


Photo Credit: Emma Delevante