LISTEN: Julia Sanders, “Place Where We All Meet”

Artist: Julia Sanders
Hometown: Asheville, North Carolina
Song: “Place Where We All Meet”
Album: Morning Star
Release Date: December 2, 2022

In Their Words: “‘Place Where We All Meet’ is the oldest song on the record. It was written when I lived in Montana, which was six or seven years ago. I was part of a Buddhist dharma meditation center there, and I went to a lecture where the monk was talking about the expression ‘this too shall pass,’ and how that’s a version of clinging. The First Noble Truth, one of the primary philosophies of Buddhism, is ‘life is suffering.’ I remember hearing that in middle or high school and being uncomfortable with it, thinking it was so dark. But coming back to it as an adult, you realize that it doesn’t mean the world is horrible; it just means that you can’t run from suffering, you can’t run from heartache. There’s always going to be something. Yes, this too shall pass, but there’s going to be something else that’s challenging. When we try to constantly run from hard feelings or difficulty in our lives, that’s where our suffering comes from. So that’s where the song began. I joke that it’s my Buddhist old-time song.

“When I first wrote ‘Place Where We All Meet,’ I had two other verses because I was very long-winded in my songwriting at the time. And then I came back to it during Covid because it kept popping into my head. It was a similar study of, now we’re all collectively in this big suffering, and people are raging about it and constantly asking, ‘When is it going to be over?’ Also I had a friend from Montana who was diagnosed with cancer during that period, who was part of that same Buddhist center — that came to mind as well. I felt like the song deserved to come back, and we recorded it not sure if it would make it on the record, but it ended up fitting in really well. In terms of the arrangement, I really like how it starts out super-sparse, just me and the banjo, and then slowly fills in with more complexity like the rest of the album by the end of the song. It’s a really good representation of my journey as a songwriter. — Julia Sanders


Photo Credit: KM Fuller

Basic Folk – Peter Mulvey

Milwaukee-born Peter Mulvey has, along with classical duo SistaStrings, made an anti-fascist record. According to Peter, “to make an anti–fascist record, you must keep kindness and compassion in the foreground.” Love is the Only Thing goes from family, to politics, to family, to racism and back to family. It’s as optimistic and introspective as it is filled with “running out of a burning building” type of songs. All the while, Peter is joined by powerful, thoughtful and extremely talented musicians in Monique and Chauntee Ross.

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Lots has happened in Peter’s life since his last album. He originated himself in New England, fell in love and got married, a pandemic, and he’s become a father. All these eek their way into the songs on the new album. Particularly poignant is his co-write with his partner, the song about their possible future as parents (good luck not crying to all the parents out there!) Don’t worry if you didn’t catch all the Buddhist references, we talk about each one in finite detail. Enjoy!


Photo Credit: Joe Navas

SMALL WORLD: Guitarist Lionel Loueke Brings Gentility to ‘The Journey’

Lionel Loueke sat in a hotel room while on tour somewhere in Europe about a year and a half ago, watching the news on TV. The Benin-born guitarist, whose inventive playing has astonished many through his roles with Herbie Hancock, Terence Blanchard and his own band, was horrified by what he was seeing.

“It was a ship,” he remembered of the coverage. “A boat that came from Libya, I think. Many people died in the sea. I remember seeing kids, pregnant women in a boat and in very ugly conditions tossing the Mediterranean.”

It was a boat carrying refugees from North Africa to Europe, people trying to escape war and famine, only to perish on route. He was overwhelmed with emotion. He responded in the way most natural to him.

He picked up his guitar.

“I wasn’t thinking of composing that day,” he says. “Just playing some simple triads. I recorded myself improvising, all triads, more of a classical style.”

As much as what he was watching tore him apart, made him angry and pained by the horror and violence of it, the music he was making didn’t sound angry, did not reflect the violence and brutality. Instead it was music of gentility.

“I’m personally a non-violent person,” he says. “I practice Buddhism, with Herbie now for a few years. That comes through my playing and my music. There are other ways to resolve problems than violence. I think we touch more people this way — maybe the gentle part will catch more people’s attention than something angry and aggressive. That’s the way I see it.”

And that is exactly the tone throughout his new album, The Journey, which includes “Vi Gnin” (“My Child” in the Mina language of a coastal district of Benin), the piece that grew from those triads he played in the hotel room.

It’s a tone that tied to a lot of things for him as he watched and played that day. He thought of other ships, ships that took people from his home region in an earlier era across the Atlantic to be slaves in Brazil. And he thought of the music of Brazil of more recent times, echoing the earlier eras, sounds that thread through the album.

The album, the 45-year-old musician’s seventh as a leader, doesn’t start with slaves being taken to South America, though. It starts with some returning to Africa. Opening track “Bouriyan” is a lilting samba, inspired by those who moved back to Benin, once a Portuguese colony, from Brazil as slave revolts racked the country during its fight for independence in the 19th century. It’s something to which he feels a very direct connection, as many of those returnees settled in the town of Ouidah, where his mother grew up. Loueke has indelibly fond memories of his mother cooking feijoada, the Brazilian-rooted beans-and-meat stew. But of course he had no idea of those roots.

“For me, I thought it was from Benin!” he says. “That’s the real connection.”

It was the same with the music that came from the Brazilian ties.

“I grew up listening to Brazilian music, without knowing it was Brazilian music,” he says.

That came later, when he left Benin as a young man to study jazz at the American School of Modern Music in Paris. “I started hearing the Brazilian guitarists,” he recalls. “First guy I heard was Baden Powell. Then of course João Gilberto, Gilberto Gil. All those classic Brazilian composers.” And, of course, Antonio Carlos Jobim, the essential Brazilian guitarist-composer of “The Girl From Ipanema,” “Desafinado” and so many others at the foundation of the canon.

“Jobim! Jobim might be the second one I heard. I was already playing some of those standards, classic songs we all knew.”

For many, that connection may be a bit of a revelation. The evolution of some music back and forth across the Atlantic is well-known — the way Afro-Cuban music sprung from Yoruban roots and then returned to be embraced and reworked in various African locales, most prominently. But the sounds associated with Brazil on which Loueke draws for The Journey are lesser associated with Africa.

“You have the return after slavery, that part is not well-known,” he says. “But pretty much in every country where you have the coasts, some of the slaves who came back on different coasts got together and used the culture back from where they had come from.”

That all provided the starting point for creation of the music here, under the guidance of producer and co-arranger Robert Sadin, starting with Loueke’s guitar and vocals, with words in Mina, Fon, Yoruba and his own “language” of clicks, hums and sighs. They then brought in a variable cast of complementary, enhancing support, a wide-ranging roster including Brazilian percussionist Cyro Baptista, bassist Pino Palladino (the guy who, among many other things, stepped in to the Who when John Entwistle died), New York saxophonist John Ellis, Trinidadian trumpeter Étienne Charles, classical clarinetist Patrick Messina, versatile cellist Vincent Ségal and Benin-born percussionist Christi Joza Orisha, as well as Loueke’s long-time trio partners, bassist Massimo Biolcati and drummer Ferenc Nemeth.

“We didn’t think about who was going to play at the beginning,” Loueke says. “I was doing three days myself for the project, then we decided based on that who would be the right person to bring something magical. Choice was to find musicians who can bring something different, refreshing.”

Refreshing is a good description of Loueke’s whole approach to music, but also dazzling in technique and originality, something he developed from his youth when he came under the sway of the music of Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian and Grant Green, then developed in his studies Paris, in Boston at the Berklee College of Music and in Los Angeles at the Thelonious Monk Institute — his audition at the latter being in front of a panel that included Hancock, Blanchard and Shorter.

All of that, all of him, is in this new album more than anything he’s done before, he says. It comes through strongly when he talks about the songs and their inspiration, what they mean to him.

“‘Kába,’ when something good or bad happens we look up or down,” he says of one. “Kába means ‘sky’ and it’s all about looking to the sky. We look for hope. We are thankful.”

Of another: “‘Gbé’ means ‘life,’ how life is beautiful at the beginning, but sometimes there are the roses and you have to be careful when you’re walking or step on the thorns.”

And another: “‘Molika’ is a song I wrote for my kids — Moesha, Lisa and Mika.”

He’s reluctant to call this a political album, despite the initial matters that spurred it. It goes much deeper than politics.

“It’s a very personal record for me,” he says. “I call it The Journey for that reason. It’s kind of a resume of all I’ve done from the beginning as a musician, and as a person, until today. And this is the right time to talk about these things. I’m not a political person. But to speak out, musically, to make a statement — well, after all for me we are living it, one way or another.”


Photo credit: Jean-Baptiste Millot