Embracing Tulsa Time, John Fullbright Finds Inspiration in a Farmhouse Studio

Yes, artists tend to be insecure. Still, it’s surprising to hear John Fullbright admit he steeled himself for bad reviews after releasing his third studio album, The Liar, in October. In fairness, though, he does have a higher-than-average bar to meet.

When the Bearden, Oklahoma, native released his studio debut, From the Ground Up, 10 years ago, what was essentially a collection of demos earned him a Grammy nomination, Americana Honors & Awards nods for Album and Emerging Artist of the Year, the ASCAP Foundation’s Harold Adamson Lyric Award (presented by another home-state hero, Jimmy Webb) and inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s tribute to Chuck Berry — where his blues-drenched, Leon Russell-infused delivery of “Ain’t Nobody’s Business” stole the show.

He was 24. At 26, he released an even more powerful album, Songs, which charted in the U.S. and U.K. Journalists again showered the pianist, guitarist and harmonica player with praise, expressing eagerness to follow his career evolution.

They weren’t expecting to wait eight years, but Fullbright was, indeed, busy evolving. He moved from Bearden (population: 133) to Tulsa (population: 411,401), where he was welcomed into a supportive music community and thriving creative scene. He embraced “Tulsa time” — a laid-back vibe he characterizes as “that JJ Cale attitude” — and discovered he loved jamming as a sideman instead of always having to carry the show.

As his already prodigious skills expanded, his confidence skyrocketed, which loosened him up on stage and in general. It’s made him a better performer, one who willingly unspools stories behind songs and engages audiences with more finesse than he already had. It also led him to seek other new experiences — like producing American Aquarium’s 2018 album, Things Change, and making his acting debut in pal Sterlin Harjo’s Hulu series, Reservation Dogs.

“It was pretty fun,” he says of his cameo as a salvage yard worker. But he has no more desire to pursue acting than he did to turn From the Ground Up’s momentum into a push for fame.

Fullbright finally got around to recording The Liar because he wanted to use the late Steve Ripley’s farmhouse studio, a replica of the one Ripley owned for 20 years in Tulsa: the famed Church Studio formerly owned by Leon Russell. Fullbright had watched Ripley painstakingly re-create the Church’s fabled Big Room (the original, now a National Historic Landmark, is considered the birthplace of “the Tulsa Sound”), but the engineer died before he could use it.

When Fullbright heard Ripley’s widow was considering selling the place, he asked if he could record something before she did.

“I gathered the guys I’ve been playing with for years now, and we went and stayed out there for a few days,” Fullbright says. “We just hung mics all over the room and started playing. I came in with a handful of finished songs and a handful of unfinished songs, and we started kicking around ideas. … It very organically came together. Next thing we knew, we had 12, 15 songs recorded. A lot of these tracks are live.”

Over four days, Fullbright discovered the joy of collaborating, particularly with Jesse Aycock (guitar, pedal steel) and Patrick Ryan (drums, percussion, cover art). He also enlisted his partner, Anjelica Baca, to sing on three tracks, including the pretty near-duet “Lucky,” and the standout “Safe to Say.”

On that one, Fullbright steers his Wurlitzer from a bluesy groove into Memphis/Muscle Shoals R&B/soul territory, singing, “I’m not talking about eyes or oceans / Smiles or sunsets / This seems stranger / I locked my heart up / Kept it company / I didn’t know I was even in danger.” Gaining thrust as he heads for the high notes, he finally shouts “I’m in lo-o-o-ve!” “I’m in lo-o-o-ve!” over a gospel chorus, seemingly ready to escape gravity altogether — until he deftly pulls back on the throttle, coming in for a landing so gentle, it’s as if that dramatic flight never occurred — except for listeners left gasping for breath from that rocket ride.

“I was going for, like, Otis Redding; start out really, really soft, and just build it as big as you can,” Fullbright explains. “I listen to a lot of R&B, and I have found that the more patient you are, the more tension there is, and the more tension there is, the bigger the payoff. It’s also a risk; sometimes it doesn’t work. But when it does, it’s great. I can go back and listen to that song and still get chills.”

Except for a few overdubs, the song was captured in one take. As for that gospel chorus, they just gathered everyone around a single mic. The same technique was used for “Poster Child,” another Fullbright-Dustin Welch cowrite in the Kurt Weill-ish vein of their darkly satiric “Gawd Above.”

On The Liar, Fullbright also includes a charming version of “Where We Belong,” by the late Tom Skinner, a founding father of Stillwater, Oklahoma-spawned red dirt music.

“We’ve been playing that song a lot live just because it’s just a really honest country song, and those are hard to come by sometimes,” says Fullbright. “And it’s an homage to Tom because he was my friend. He showed me the ropes when I first started playing music in front of a microphone.”

Fullbright was a still a teen when his performance at the Woody Guthrie Folk Festival (aka WoodyFest), Okemah, Oklahoma’s annual celebration of its most famous resident, generated some big buzz. From there, he made his way to Oklahoma City’s Blue Door, Greg Johnson’s iconic listening room. Johnson was so impressed by Fullbright’s skills, he did something he’d never done in all his years of showcasing talent: he offered to become Fullbright’s manager.

Neither had planned for such a quick take-off. As Fullbright’s career unfolded, it flipped into some bizarro Cinderella story — one in which the glass slipper gets dumped because it’s too shiny and uncomfortable.

Fullbright doesn’t like limelight; he actually left college in part because he was too shy to raise his hand in class or speak to groups. But his talents still drew attention, despite his discomfort (which may or may not be referenced in The Liar’s booze-centric “Social Skills” and the definitely not autobiographical, Tom Waits-inspired title track, written over coffee around 9 a.m.).

An early hint of his trajectory came when he won the Bugle Boy Foundation Talent Trust Award at 23, which funded From the Ground Up. But he declined to finance a Grammy vote-gathering campaign; he has little interest in music-biz politicking. Though he has a distribution agreement with Thirty Tigers, he’s never signed with a label; all of his albums have been released on his own Blue Dirt Records label.

After the 2014 release of Songs, Fullbright knew he didn’t want to engage in extended touring indefinitely. The move to Tulsa gave him more reason not to: being close to a major airport made it easier to do short hops and one-off appearances, and in-between, he could stay home and play.

“I’m still shy,” admits Fullbright, who pre-signed discs for a recent performance so he wouldn’t have to interact at the merch table. “But I definitely feel a lot less like an outsider looking in. One of the things about being in this particular community is, it’s nothing for somebody to just text and say, ‘Hey, man, I can’t make it to this show. Would you mind filling in?’ And ‘Hey, would you mind letting my dog out?’ ‘Would you mind watching my kids for a couple hours?’ To me, that’s what’s really cool about it. We don’t just get together and play music.”

Now, he splits his time between Tulsa and the Bearden farmhouse in which he was conceived. In the city, he has a community, grocery stores and garbage pickup. In the country, he has … stars.

That glittering night sky inspired what’s widely regarded as Fullbright’s magnum opus: “Stars” — finally recorded for posterity after years of only live performances. It’s a stunning work, a sweeping epic addressing loneliness, love, loss, life, death and God in six simple stanzas. Nearly every already-glowing review singles it out for effusive praise (so much for those fears of panning). Under a video of Fullbright performing the song, former Austin American-Statesman critic Peter Blackstock wrote, “I did not hear a better new original song than this from anyone in the past decade.”

That led to John Legend’s so-far-unreleased recording. Potential mailbox money aside, it really should be Fullbright’s version lodging in the memory of everyone who hears it.

He wrote it after playing at a close family friend’s funeral. The night before, he recalls, “It was a very clear night, and I was in a very bad mood. I was angry because John was gone. But I have a tendency, when I walk from the car to the back porch, just to look up and stare at the stars for a minute, get my bearings. That night, I was doing my star gazing and I just went, ‘Man, if you’re just gonna die, what is the point?’ I was in a dark place.

“The next day, I played John’s memorial service and hung out with the family all day,” he continues. “We laughed and cried, and I came back to the house and looked up at the sky. Same stars. And I was filled with this sad joy, like, ‘What was I thinking last night? Life is something to take very, very seriously. It’s very precious. And it’s very short.’ I walked inside and wrote the song; it all just came out at once. That so rarely happens. The whole thing got written in one sitting and recorded onto my phone, and that was it. I went to bed.”

Fullbright may have turned his back on potential stardom, preferring an ember’s steady glow to the quick fade of flashy fireworks. He’s never had a hit, but he’s already written several songs that deserve to be considered classics. “Stars” outshines them all, though. It truly is one for the ages, from an outstanding talent who, ideally, won’t wait another eight years to give the world more songs that shine even half as brilliantly.


Photo Credit: Jackson Adair

LISTEN: Kaitlin Butts, “It Won’t Always Be This Way”

Artist: Kaitlin Butts
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma; now Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “It Won’t Always Be This Way”
Album: What Else Can She Do
Release Date: April 15, 2022

In Their Words: “For a long time, my mom and I were going through some hard times. She was going through a divorce, and we kept getting what I like to call ‘clotheslined’ by life. We kept trying to be positive and we’d say ‘it won’t always be this way’ and by the time we’d get some traction again, we’d get the rug pulled out from under us again. That pattern took place for a pretty long time, but the phrase ‘it won’t always be this way’ remained. We said it so often without things changing for the better, that it became this really sad thing we would say. So I wrote this song about wanting to, but not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Taking my personal experience out of it, the song is about a mother wanting to take her daughter out of a bad situation. The depression and uncertainty that all of that comes with. The promise to her daughter that it won’t always be this way.” — Kaitlin Butts


Photo Credit: Mackenzie Ryan

BGS 5+5: Travis Linville

Artist: Travis Linville
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Latest Album: I’m Still Here

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

I get asked this question a whole lot. Influences evolve and change and sometimes even fall off the map. What was a big influence at one time isn’t later and it all goes into the same stew of musical expression. The first few songs I was inspired to learn on guitar were Hank Williams songs, but no way I would say Hank is my biggest influence. As a musician, I could say my personal guitar mentor Joe Settlemires or maybe the deep dive we took into the great Harlem composers like Thelonious Monk. There were several years of my youth where I listened mostly to hip hop and R&B. When I was a dishwasher at a BBQ restaurant the kitchen staff only listened to classic rock radio from the ’70s and that was a big influence at the time.

My favorite artist is probably Bob Dylan, but I think that has to do with things that go beyond songs and music. My grandparents and family played music so I grew up around country music like Ray Price or Lefty Frizzell. I love that era and soaked it all in. The Delta blues and its journey up the river to electricity is the most foundational and arguably America’s biggest musical influence. Motown is a really important influence and I heard all those great songs on the oldies station in my parents car. In 2020 I listened to more lo-fi instrumental beats than anything else. There are a lot of influences and they are all important.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

You may have gathered that I don’t play favorites so I’ll give you two. When I was 21 years old I found myself in Luckenbach, Texas, at the Willie Nelson 4th of July Picnic. I was playing guitar for Claude Gray who was the first person to ever have a hit with a Willie Nelson song. I was a young guitar player working small clubs in Oklahoma and it was just a complete stroke of luck that I found myself on this big stage. At one point while we were playing, the crowd went wild and I realized Willie Nelson was walking out to sing with us. That moment was a beginning for me and at the same time my biggest moment. Years later I was asked to be a part of a Tulsa “all-star” house band backing up several artists on a benefit show. At the end of the night I was on stage with a big group of my best music buddies backing up a sing-along led by Kris Kristofferson doing “Me and Bobbie McGee.” Joy Ely, Arlo Guthrie, Jessi Colter, John Densmore from the Doors and a whole bunch of other legendary folks were up there. That was a special moment.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

If I ever feel like I’m having a tough time writing a song, I take it as a sign that I’m not in the correct frame of mind. Mostly songwriting comes pretty easy. It can be tough deciding when a song is done, but overall I think songwriting isn’t as mysterious as folks would like to think it is. It’s more about doing the work with a free spirit initially and then continuing to tinker, edit, and make it better. Songwriting usually gets tough when you allow your filter to get involved. I think the master key is all about getting rid of your filter and not being afraid to say anything even if it seems cliché, simple, wacky, or plain stupid. The big secret is you just go ahead and say it anyway and then come back and change it later… if it doesn’t grow on you. It’s like a crossword puzzle but with multiple correct answers. So the only hard part is committing to which correct answer you want to use. In the grand scheme of things songs are pretty simple. Anyone could write one, but the reason not everyone does is because most folks won’t allow themselves to go without a filter. That filter is a good thing in daily life, but not in songwriting.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

Mission statement: “Wow I can’t believe that I’ve been able to keep this guitar guy and ‘making up songs'” thing going as a career for 25 years! I hope I can keep it going.” Additional note to mission statement: The music business isn’t music. Music has nothing to do with business. Someone can make music their business, but they aren’t the same thing. I can play music in my own living room for no one and get just as much enjoyment as playing on a stage in a venue. That wasn’t always true but it definitely is now. I can’t make a living playing in my living room, but I can enjoy it a whole lot. I think too often people talk about “music” strictly within the confines of the people who are in the music business, making records and investing time and money to get their music heard and build a fan base. Music is way, way bigger and more personally important than all that. Music is my love. I’m lucky to have been able to make a go in the music business from an early age. I try to make sure I never get those things mixed up.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I love this question and this particular subject of songwriting!! … With the exception of the word “hide.” I would say it isn’t hiding as much as it is just writing a song. With nearly every song I write I play with the element of “you,” “me,” “I,” “we,” etc. It’s so important!! I’ll often try a song from a few different perspectives after it’s finished and usually one will be the obvious best choice. There is no hiding in a song. I truly believe that unless the song is painfully literal, what the writer meant or how lyrics apply to the writer’s life should be fully irrelevant to the song itself. The song itself is meant to be listened to with an open mind and heart and in my opinion it should stand alone without reference to “here is the story.” I know that fans of songwriters love these stories, but for me that’s just an opportunity to make up untrue fictional backstories just like I make up songs.


Photo credit: Kris Payne

WATCH: Pilgrim, “Darkness Of The Bar”

Artist: Pilgrim
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Song: “Darkness Of The Bar”
Album: No Offense, Nevermind, Sorry
Release Date: June 25, 2021
Label: Horton Records

In Their Words: “The song is about the dark struggles of life, and trying see the light in those dark times. My friends Phil Clarkin, Greg Bollinger, and Todd Ruffin put the video together. It was a real hoot and good chance to get some old friends together. Most of the video was shot at a venue called The Vanguard in Tulsa. The main character was played by another songwriter, Justin Bloss, and the character of “Marie” was played by our good friend Jaime Tovar. The live footage was shot at The Mercury Lounge, where we hold a weekly residence and just a really great space to work your craft. My hope is that everyone who listens can find something in the song they can relate to.” — Beau Roberson, Pilgrim


Photo credit: Phil Clarkin

WATCH: Saugeye, “Keystone Lillie”

Artist: Saugeye
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Song: “Keystone Lillie”
Album: Saugeye
Release Date: January 29, 2021
Label: Horton Records

In Their Words: “The chorus of ‘Keystone Lillie’ came to me the day after my pup Lillie passed, as I was observing some of the holes she dug in the yard. The rest of the song unfolded soon after and became a tribute to our time together. Saugeye had been playing the song live at shows so we wanted to include it on this first record. Lillie was a rescue dog, but truth be told she rescued me.” — Jared Tyler


Photo credit: Phil Clarkin. L-R: Seth Lee Jones, Jared Tyler, Jake Lynn and Casey Van Beek

LISTEN: John Fullbright, “Crossing Over”

Artist: John Fullbright
Hometown: Born in Bearden, Oklahoma; lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma
Song: “Crossing Over” (written by Steve Ripley)
Album: Back to Paradise: A Tulsa Tribute to Okie Music
Release Date: August 28, 2020
Label: Horton Records

In Their Words: “I played various keyboards and acoustic guitar, percussion, and sang a bunch of stuff — I was all over the map on the record. I picked out ‘If the Shoe Fits’ by Leon Russell because I’m pretty sure that song was recorded at Paradise Studio and it’s about that place. I did an audible at the last minute and recorded a Hoyt Axton song called ‘Jealous Man.’ We wound up doing it in one take, which always feels nice. I thought the selection was great — we went from the obscure to stuff that everybody knows.

“I also recorded a song called ‘Crossing Over’ by Steve Ripley. Yeah, it’s my buddy, Steve. It’s literally a song about him going on to the next thing, and right after, he went on to the next thing. There was a tape glitch sound when we were recording it that was just subtle enough that everyone just turned and looked at each other. It was so subtle that it wouldn’t mess up everything else. It was just a little ‘Hey guys,’ ‘Hey kids.’ That was Steve.

“I’d heard about Leon’s Grand Lake Studio for a long time. It was a lot cooler and vibier than I had expected. I didn’t know that so many of the records that I really like were recorded there. So, walking around the place, and just kinda feeling it out, it was almost as good as being there back in the day. This is a snapshot in time of the Tulsa music scene that is very eclectic and very talented. And it’s a city that obviously doesn’t forget its roots, its past, and celebrates it and builds on it.” — John Fullbright


Photo credit: Phil Clarkin

LISTEN: Casey Van Beek and the Tulsa Groove, “Since You Said Goodbye”

Artist: Casey Van Beek and the Tulsa Groove
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Song: “Since You Said Goodbye”
Album: Heaven Forever
Release Date: April 24, 2020
Label: Little Village Foundation

In Their Words: “I’ve been performing JJ Cale songs beginning with his very first album. When [producer] Walt Richmond suggested ‘Since You Said Goodbye’ as a cover, I was in with both feet. We were extremely pleased with the outcome. We were especially happy with the performances of Steve Hickerson on guitar and Steve Bagsby on steel guitar. I hope Cale would have approved.” — Casey Van Beek


Photo credit: Susan Webb

LISTEN: John Calvin Abney, “I Just Want to Feel Good”

Artist: John Calvin Abney
Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Song: “I Just Want to Feel Good”
Album: Safe Passage
Release Date: September 27, 2019
Label: Black Mesa Records

In Their Words: “This song was written in a short 20-minute nova of inspiration. I had a nagging cold while up at altitude, staying in a cabin by myself in Colorado, and dodging my troubles through travel and wine. I grew tired of being a people pleaser in order to dodge conflict (the real superficial kind) and was chasing the shadow of happiness in the wake of the real thing.” — John Calvin Abney


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A Spirit of Activism Informs Son Volt’s New ‘Union’

Jay Farrar took a field trip to make Union, Son Volt’s ninth studio album. Rather than book more sessions at Red Pill Recording Studio in St. Louis — where the long-running alt-country band recorded 2017’s Notes of Blue — he wanted to take his songs out into America and find fresh inspiration. So the band trekked west to Tulsa, where they cut tracks at the Woody Guthrie Center, then road-tripped north to Mt. Olive, Illinois, to record at the Mother Jones Museum.

The spirit of activism embodied by those two figures informs the thirteen songs on Union, an urgent and at times angry account of American life at the close of the 2010s. More naturally than on any other album, Farrar balances the political and the personal, penning songs about how the media-industrial complex profits by dividing the country alongside songs about how his children are growing into adults.

BGS: Why did you want to record at the Woody Guthrie Center and the Mother Jones Museum?

Farrar: I felt like it was a little too comfortable in the studio where I had recorded before. I was writing about topical issues, so I felt like some of the songs needed to be taken out of the studio. I wanted to take them out into the world. I wanted to record them in a more challenging environment, so we went to Tulsa and Mount Olive to remind ourselves of the contributions Mother Jones and Woody Guthrie made, how each in their own way helped get us where we are today. We just felt like we needed to be inspired.

Those are two very different places. How were those experiences different?

The Mother Jones Museum is pretty small. It’s connected to the City Hall, I think. It’s evolved a lot since I was younger. I remember seeing hand-painted signs on the side of Interstate 55 going north. It was like folk art. Over the years it’s evolved, and I guess they got some funding from the city. They’re continuing to grow and build on it. I think she’s buried in the cemetery there as well.

At the Woody Guthrie Center, they have the new Bob Dylan archives, and we were able go by there after the recording. Amazing stuff there — the tambourine that inspired “Mr. Tambourine Man,” Dylan’s address book from ’63 or ’64. He’s got Lenny Bruce in there. Stuff like that. We geeked out for sure. It’s pretty comprehensive, too, because they have everything archived digitally as well as the physical objects. They wouldn’t actually let us touch anything, of course.

That sounds amazing. And, as you said, inspiring.

It was. And we were looking through some of the materials and had a question about one of the videos we were watching. So the curator said, “Wait one minute and I’ll get an answer for you.” He called Bob Dylan’s business office and talked with someone there. He got an answer straight from the source.

How did those places inform the songs on Union?

The songs were ready to go prior to going in. I didn’t write anything there, but with some of the heavy topical subject matter, this batch of songs needed to be taken out of the studio where I recorded Notes of Blue. We needed to be challenged in every way, but maybe I was just looking for a field trip. But I think those two people really did inspire some of the writing, in a roundabout way. Mother Jones and Woody Guthrie really helped shape our society and really stressed the importance of pushing society forward and not backwards.

How much of a conscious decision is it to write topical songs? Do you sit down and think, “I’m going to write a song about the media”?

It goes in cycles for me. I’ve done some topical writing in the past, but this time around it felt like it was my job to take it on. There’s a lot of turmoil in our society right now. I did a lot of the writing in November 2016, right before Notes of Blue was released in the spring of 2017. So I had a few months to put pen to paper and woodshed, and that’s when a lot of these songs came out.

Probably midway through the writing process, I decided I needed some songs that represented a regular rock ethos — essentially, non-topical songs. There needed to be a balance between topical and non-topical songs. I was thinking about the Replacements, who would fall off the stage on the first note of a song. Or The Who. I was thinking about the essence of what a rock band is. “Devil May Care” came from that approach.

Do you find new shades of meaning the more you live with a song, the more you play it night after night after night?

These new songs will probably evolve a bit from rehearsals to when we start the tour. That’s always one aspect of being on the road that I enjoy: reinventing older songs and playing them in new ways, just to keep things interesting. Certain songs just want to evolve, especially if you’re playing them every day in rehearsals and soundchecks. “Windfall” is one that has changed a lot. There’s a CD out there called Artifacts that has a reggae version. We change that one up pretty regularly, and we changed it up again over the holidays. Actually I think we’ve got reggae versions of almost every Son Volt song. But that one in particular is so well-suited to that style that we put it out on a live CD.

Why reggae?

“Windfall” is conducive to reggae. It’s just a couple of chords. But I think from one day to the next you like to stretch out and just try out different kinds of music that you’re not necessarily playing every night. I think some of the guys in the band would probably like to try some experimental jazz-fusion versions of some songs.

Can we expect to hear “Caryatid Easy” done in the style of Bitches Brew?

That’s one song we plan on resurrecting for the tour, so who knows?

Can you talk about “The Reason”? That song seems to suggest that travel and music can be salves in hard times, which makes me think it’s somewhere between topical and non-topical.

That song reminds me of Dylan’s “Forever Young” or Tom Petty’s “Free Fallin’.” I think it relates to watching your kids become adults, that sort of sentiment. It’s certainly informed by them, to the same degree that those Dylan and Petty songs were informed by their kids. But yeah, in troubled times getting out and traveling is good. You have to find hope wherever you can.

On the other hand, “Union” was inspired by my dad. The chorus goes, “He said national service will keep the union together.” National service is something my dad used to advocate for. Maybe he’s right, I don’t know. There’s a lot of money being made today by media conglomerates hawking divisiveness. It seems like there needs to be a counterbalance somewhere.

You’ve written topical songs in the past, with Uncle Tupelo and on 2005’s Okemah and the Melody of Riot. How different is it to write this kind of song in 2019 than when either of the Bushes were in office?

It’s not the process itself that was different, although I will say I was more focused this time. I had a block of time and was thinking about these issues, so I could be more focused on getting these songs written, maybe more so than I had been in the past. A few topical songs wound up on records in the past, maybe one or two. Okemah had a good amount of them. I guess I’ll keep cranking them out.


Photo credit: David McClister

The String – Music City Postcard: Tulsa, OK

This special field trip edition of The String tours the exciting music scene in Tulsa with visits to Cain’s Ballroom, Russell’s Church Studio, currently under renovation, the Woody Guthrie Center, the Bob Dylan Archive and iconic honky tonk The Colony.

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Tulsa, OK has an important musical past but also a dynamic present built on the legacies and impact of Bob Wills, Leon Russell, J.J. Cale, Woody Guthrie and more. We meet locals who are championing the next wave of Tulsa music, including singer/songwriter and producer Jared Tyler. See WMOT.org for photos, a playlist and more resources.