Basic Folk – Sam Phillips

Sam Phillips was born to a family that loved doling out nicknames. She was called “Sam” growing up in a house that was filled with readers. She nurtured her love of philosophy and spirituality by exploring different religions and devouring works by authors like C.S. Lewis and Thomas Merton. Early in her career, she found success as a Christian musician under her real name: Leslie Phillips. She made several albums, but became uncomfortable with her label marketing her as “the Christian Cyndi Lauper.” She also had a desire to write songs that didn’t reinforce people’s religious beliefs. For her final Leslie Phillips album, she worked with future spouse/ex-spouse, T-Bone Burnett, “a fellow Christian with a maverick approach to songs about faith and morality,” and found a kindred spirit. She decided to rebrand and start recording as Sam Phillips. Sam and T-Bone worked together from 1988’s The Indescribable Wow to 2004’s A Boot and a Shoe.

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In our conversation, we talk about Sam’s writing process, which she is always changing up. She comes up with her best ideas when she “turns off the trying part of her brain,” but at the same time, she strongly believes in the power of editing. Sam’s probably best known for composing and performing the score for the beloved Amy Sherman-Palladino series Gilmore Girls, for which she also made a brief appearance on the season finale in 2006. You remember those “La la la’s” while Lorelei and Rory carried around their armpit purses, and drank coffee while wearing those horrible boot cut jeans? That was Sam Phillips! Currently, Sam is working on a new album and she’s taking her time, so don’t rush her, OK?


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The Show On The Road – Iris DeMent

This week, we feature my conversation with beloved folk firebrand Iris DeMent. Born the youngest of 14 to a singing Pentecostal family in Arkansas and raised in California, DeMent released her iconic 1992 John Prine-endorsed debut, Infamous Angel, and has been creating poetic protest records and warm collaborations ever since (garnering two folk Grammy nominations along the way), culminating in her much anticipated and fiery new LP, Working On A World.

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Certain songwriters in the folk field will occasionally speak up about injustice or corruption — but with Working On A World, DeMent puts the protest front and center: honoring luminaries like Mahalia Jackson, John Lewis, Martin Luther King Jr. and even The Chicks for giving her hope that putting your principles and life on the line will help bend history towards progress and righteousness.

DeMent, who is now based in Iowa with her musician and collaborator husband Greg Brown (check out their biting co-write “I’ll Be Your Jesus”), will be the first to say that at times in her wide-ranging career, playing clubs to enraptured but small audiences, she has questioned whether she was doing enough to make a difference. But songs like the epic Dylan-esque take-down “Going Down To Sing in Texas” show that Dement is still at her fired-up best, confronting the Lone Star State’s open carry gun laws that put so many at risk, while also spitting in the face of all the wannabe tyrants who shun the very progress she is still hoping to see. In many ways, Working On A World is a hard-won release of pent-up energy, created over the course of six years with co-producers Richard Bennett, Jim Rooney and Pieta Brown.

While many of her longtime fans are used to her fearless political confrontations — 1996’s seething The Way I Should and its dark anthem “Wasteland of the Free” demand answers from sexual abusers and government war mongers alike — casual listeners may only know DeMent from her playful duets with sonic soulmate John Prine, most notably the foul-mouthed love song “In Spite Of Ourselves.” With a little laugh, she says she’s alright with that too. Life is long and the music, no matter the light or the dark, is equally as powerful.


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WATCH: Steve Dawson, “House Carpenter”

Artist: Steve Dawson
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “House Carpenter”
Album: Eyes Closed, Dreaming
Release Date: March 24, 2023
Label: Black Hen Music

In Their Words: “This is a traditional song that I’ve played over the years in different forms and with different people. I first learned of it when I was playing in Kelly Joe Phelps’ band and he would pull this one out every now and again, although he did it in a totally different way. I suppose the version that I knew the best was by Tony Rice, so this is somewhat inspired by his version. It’s one of those songs that has many versions, many different melodies, and many different sets of lyrics. The album version features Jay Bellerose on drums, Jeremy Holmes on bass, Chris Gestrin on Moog and Tim O’Brien on mandolin. This live version was recorded with my live band — Joachim Cooder on drums and mbira, Jeremy Holmes on bass, and Darryl Havers on keyboards. I was honored to have John Reischman sit in with us on this one on mandolin. John is someone who I got to know while living in Vancouver and is one of the more inspiring musicians and humans to hang and play music with! I’m using an unusual tuning on the Weissenborn to get an interesting quality to the guitar sound, and hopefully we’ve managed to produce a worthy version of this fine trad tune.” — Steve Dawson


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WATCH: Matt Andersen & The Big Bottle of Joy, “Golden” (Live)

Artist: Matt Andersen & The Big Bottle of Joy
Hometown: Perth-Andover, New Brunswick, Canada
Song: “Golden”
Album: The Big Bottle of Joy
Release Date: March 10, 2023
Label: Sonic Records

In Their Words: “I wrote this song with my pal Andy Stochansky. It’s a song about the light and joy that one person can bring to another. While we were writing this song, I kept picturing the moment in The Wizard of Oz when the movie goes from black and white to colour. We all have moments in the grey, when things feel dark. Hopefully, we all also have a person that can pull us out of those moments.” — Matt Andersen


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LISTEN: Nathaniel Rateliff, “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain” (Live)

Artist: Nathaniel Rateliff
Hometown: Denver, Colorado
Song: “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain” (Live)
Album: One Night in Texas: The Next Waltz’s Tribute to The Red Headed Stranger (produced by Bruce Robison)
Release Date: April 28, 2023
Label: The Next Waltz

Editor’s Note: One Night in Texas was recorded live at Luck, Texas, on May 1, 2022, in honor of Willie Nelson’s 89th birthday. Featured artists on the album include Sheryl Crow, Steve Earle, Vincent Neil Emerson, Emily Gimble, Ray Wylie Hubbard, Robert Earl Keen, Phosphorescent, Margo Price, Bruce Robison, Nathaniel Rateliff, and Shinyribs.

In Their Words: “To put together a night of Willie Nelson music is a bit of a dream for me. His songs and the vibe of The Family band was so formative that it is hard to measure. The music has always been a part of my life — a North Star. When we got together a bunch of friends for the band, playing this music, after these couple years — honestly, it felt like it was about more than just Willie. Then, the crazy group of guests signed on for the show, and then Bobbie passed, and then Willie decided he would come play a set after us. The night just felt like some kind of celebration of life. When it was coming together I knew I had to try to record it. When I heard what was on tape it sounded like magic to me. It sounded like 1973. It is definitely the sound of people having fun. This was a great night in Texas. The band was a runaway train and the singers were insane. Thanks to everybody who lent their talents to this.” — Bruce Robison

“I really enjoyed singing ‘Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain.’ Bruce Robinson put a hell of a band together to perform with. It’s always an honor and a privilege to celebrate Willie Nelson and to be a part of the musical family he’s created.” — Nathaniel Rateliff

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WATCH: The Hackles, “Birdcage”

Artist: The Hackles
Hometown: Astoria, Oregon
Song: “Birdcage”
Album: What a beautiful thing I have made
Release Date: April 7, 2023
Label: Jealous Butcher Records

In Their Words: “The protagonist of ‘Birdcage’ is a fictionalized amalgam of three real people:

1. A man that I read about in the local paper who was arrested for killing and cleaning a deer in the middle of the street in Astoria, Oregon.

2. A friend who is a vocal anti-vaxer and conspiracy theorist.

3. An evangelical farmer-friend from my childhood town.

“The song speaks to the warring feelings of obligation and fear when confronting someone who is in moral opposition to myself. I want so desperately to challenge them, but can only browbeatenly hide behind the lyrics of this tune.

“My husband and I bought a fixer-upper 1900s farmhouse in the fall of 2022. The Hackles’ live video of ‘Birdcage’ was filmed in an upstairs bedroom in front of a wall that was scheduled for demolition. We flipped on the antiquated knob and tube power just long enough to heat the room, shoot a live version of the song, strip down and change into coveralls, paint the wall a different color, film a different song, and so on … until we were roasting from the space heater, rosy from red wine, and had four live videos to pair with the upcoming record. Our good friend, Tyler Little, filmed and edited the videos, whilst Kati and Luke engineered the audio. I have since demoed the well-used wall, in the spirit of progress. Wouldn’t it be nice to think the bird has broken its cage?” — Halli Anderson, The Hackles


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Artist of the Month: Michael Cleveland

Michael Cleveland is likely the most awarded fiddler of our era. Along with a Grammy for best bluegrass album and dozens of IBMA trophies, he’s also won our admiration and respect. You can hear the joy in his fiddling, while his friendly disposition helps him stay on the first-call list for bluegrass recording sessions. He’s gathered an impressive list of collaborators for his sixth studio album, Lovin’ of the Game, releasing this month on Compass Records. Guests range from Jerry Douglas and Béla Fleck, to Vince Gill and Charlie Starr of Blackberry Smoke.

Cleveland titled the new album after a Judy Collins classic that he recorded with his band, Flamekeeper. “The song is about prospectors and gamblers,” he has said, “but for me, the ‘loving of the game’ has always been loving being a part of the musical community and all that being a musician has brought to me.”

Beneath his calm demeanor, though, Cleveland is driven to create. Born completely blind, he’s also lost 80 percent of his hearing in the left year. Nonetheless, he’s been making albums for 25 years, toured with legends like Rhonda Vincent before stepping out with Flamekeeper, and collected all-star admirers like Billy Strings and Bryan Sutton. Vince Gill, who lends his voice to the true blue heartbreaker “I Wish I Knew Now What I Knew Then,” counts himself among a legion of fans. “He plays fearless and it’s intoxicating to play with him because he makes you play fearless,” Gill says. “He takes no prisoners but he plays with restraint and a soul. He plays without abandon.”

As we celebrate Michael Cleveland as our BGS Artist of the Month for March, we’ll unveil a brand new performance video filmed in Nashville, as well as exclusive career-spanning interview. Because we’ve been fans for a long time, we’ll also share some of our favorite moments from the Bluegrass Situation archive (like the time he picked his desert island fiddler for us.) Meanwhile, enjoy our BGS Essentials playlist with Michael Cleveland below.


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Putting Black History Month in Perspective with Brandi Waller-Pace

[Editor’s note: To mark the conclusion of Black History Month, we’ve invited BGS collaborator and contributor Brandi Waller-Pace to share her thoughts on how to take the ethos, mission, and action of BHM with us throughout the year.]

Dr. Carter G. Woodson, Black American writer and historian, is known as the Father of Black History Month. One of the first scholars of African American history, he founded the Association for the Study of African American Life and History in 1915 and established Negro History Week in February of 1926. He chose the week of February that contained the birthdays of both Frederick Douglas (February 14th) and Abraham Lincoln (February 12th) as both birthdays were already being celebrated in Black communities. In 1970 The Black United Students organization at Kent State University began a celebration of Black History Month, and in 1976 President Ford declared Black History Month nationwide.”

– Brandi Waller-Pace, Decolonizing the Music Room, 2001 

Dr. Woodson’s selection of Douglass and Lincoln’s birthday indicates how significant they were, especially since the 1920s being just one generation removed from the Civil War – with many formerly enslaved Black people still alive. Even today, we are not nearly as removed from that time period as we think we are. In 1976, the year of the United States’ bicentennial and fifty years after the first Negro History Week, President Ford expanded the commemoration to last an entire month and Black History Month was born. 

Some folks ask, “If Black history is important all the time, why is it just a month?” But the literal history of the month itself, the fact that it exists at all, is part of Black history. It was a push to validate and celebrate the experiences, culture, study, and background of Black people in the land that came to be known as the United States, people who were viewed legally and societally as less than fully human, alongside the denial of their contributions to this country’s foundation and culture. Negro History Week was created to shine light on everything Blackness has created in the U.S. – and that week of recognition itself was created by a Black scholar. We know that Blackness and Black history is broader than just the U.S., and I find it important to look at that expanse in the context of Black History Month. 

When we talk about heritage months in general, we have to think about how we use terms: “Black,” “African American,” and so on. These ideas and terms didn’t all begin at the same point, they didn’t come out of the same movements, and they aren’t all used interchangeably or even in the same fashion. They also are not universally claimed by people we would place under their umbrella.

This is exactly what this month is for, to have these conversations and to open up these spaces, not to relegate Blackness to one month. Celebrating Blackness isn’t geared toward denying other groups their history – framing the month in terms of what it means for the recognition of other groups perpetuates false binaries, as if the only options available are honoring BHM at others’ expense, or ignoring BHM altogether. Celebrating Blackness is just that– acknowledging the history and the continuing traditions, culture, and advances of Black folks, who continue to make history. That sort of celebration is huge, especially considering the erasure and exclusion of so much of Black history in curriculum, media, and literature. 

It’s interesting to consider our ideas around Black History Month as they relate to our changing perceptions of time. As the world became more industrialized, mass communication advanced, and now we’re in the age of the internet where things seem to move lightning-fast and we are inundated with content, with emphasis on trends. This contributes to the impression of even meatier information simply being trends and waves in popular culture or only being flashes in the pan. This helps reinforce the idea that our celebrations of heritage months are just a moment, something for short attention spans, to be consumed in a second before scrolling on. You’ll see memes or posts like, “Now everybody is doing such-and-such a thing!” When that “thing” – almost always mocked as “woke” or “politically correct” – has possibly been around for hundreds of years. 

It’s a function and arm of the myth of white supremacy to present the “other” as invalid, unless there is something about it upon which one can capitalize. Time and time again, Black folks’ creations – our foodways and folkways, our cultural creations, our music, our ways of dress – have been erased, ignored, or derided unless there’s a point at which some kind of value can be extracted from it. It is then taken up by the mainstream, gates are built around it, and Black folks are purposefully distanced from it while others profit from it.

It’s like so many of the linguistic trends that have pervaded TikTok and internet culture, which are referred to as “Gen Z language,” but they are really rooted in African American Vernacular English and Black language that have been adopted by the internet writ large, but without understanding of or general reference to their origins. Because of how quickly the world moves and how information is passed along in the age of the internet, these pieces of culture are picked up, stripped down, and decontextualized so quickly.

Or consider the banjo – which is still represented in the mainstream specifically as a “white Appalachian instrument.” In the past, this representation was even upheld broadly among many trad communities in a factual way. In recent decades – thanks to the labor and diligence of some great humans – the banjo’s true origins have become more and more widely known, along with the story of how it was taken up into mainstream popular culture and how many Black people were distanced from their connection to the instrument while many white people continued to profit materially and/or reputationally from playing it.

In this time, Black cultural appropriation is so often perpetuated that it’s easy to have no awareness of these phenomena as they happen. Part of the work here is understanding that intention – or lack of intention – doesn’t mitigate impact. It’s important for all of us to understand how we perpetuate what we perpetuate and how we co-opt what we co-opt, whether mistruths about the banjo, slang and language trends, or Black History Month.

When we talk about privilege and perpetuation of this sort of appropriation, we tend to individualize, because in our society and culture we are conditioned to think individually. This manifests itself in a lot of ways; for instance, many speak against funding community care for people who need it, against investing in and giving people what they need – income, shelter, nutrition, access, resources. This comes from being taught that each gets their own – if you do, it’s because you are sufficient as a person, if you don’t it’s because you are deficient. While our society individualizes, it’s important to remember these are systemic, holistic, endemic issues that must be solved collectively. We must collaborate to repair the legacy of antiblackness, erasure, and exclusion that Black folks have experienced on this land for centuries.

This doesn’t mean there isn’t individual responsibility. Each of us can and should make individual efforts – as well as collective – to reckon with our privilege and our roles in perpetuating this status quo. And I would caution against positioning the individual against the collective; it’s collective and individual work. People interact with one another individually and interact with collective systems and groups. It’s such a balance; not taking away the need for individual focus and responsibility, but understanding that that same individual is part of the collective and should also drive the collective. Something like voting– when you’re in that booth, you’re by yourself, but your vote is collective action.

So, what is needed for others to make progress toward Black people and their creations being treated equitably? Start by building human relationships, first of all. Representation within ranks shouldn’t just be for “diversity’s sake.” Diversify spaces not just for the sake of diversifying spaces, but so these spaces aren’t just white-dominated and white-led, talking about these issues and what to do about these issues. Having actual human connection, being in relationship with one another, is vital. Have a willingness to invest in real, human relationships with the Black folks that you’re inviting in. There’s a huge difference in how one cares for and handles people they’re in real relationships with – not as just a representative identity, but as a human, a community member. It’s easier to listen to folks and really hear them, if you care about them.

Make sure not to employ a “color avoidant” (AKA “colorblind”) approach. If you care about me as a Black person and my full humanity, don’t erase my Blackness, because it is an important part of my identity, of which I am proud. But it also is something society has painted as negative and caring for me means acknowledging that that affects me. The status quo, white supremacist norms, are intertwined with our particularly fierce brand of capitalism, and it all seeks to completely individualize us and strip away our sense of collective care. So, one must be intentional in building relationships. But don’t stop connecting at those of us who are the easiest to access, who have the most resources and the privilege to already be in exclusive spaces you regularly encounter. That has us tokenized and other Black folks still erased, outside of the gates.

Then, based on these real, personal relationships with Black folks, you can step in when necessary to check your peers who are perpetuating the erasure, marginalization, tokenization we regularly experience among organizations and groups. In bluegrass, old-time, and roots music the number of Black folks present is never equal to the true cultural contributions of Black folks, which can result in heavy tokenization. We can feel actions are being taken just to check a box, versus work being done to make structural change over time. 

There is a great deal of societal resistance against taking deliberate, intentional actions to address antiblackness. It is important to view this work through the lens of reparation, in a real material and financial sense and to direct resources to Black communities, giving Black folks the discretion to use those resources as they see fit, rather than insisting on providing your oversight. At the same time, those who hold this industry and community power should understand that people aren’t always going to want to be hired in or brought on to diversify or as a solution to a diversity problem.

 You can do both at the same time. I had a conversation recently with someone about the festival I founded, the Fort Worth African American Roots Music Festival, about pushes to diversify spaces, versus creating new ones. Both of these strategies are completely valid – if you run a festival, by all means bring on more Black artists next year. But at the same time, donate money to spaces specifically aimed at building a more involved Black community within roots music – ones in which we don’t often get to participate.

It’s also important to address the concept of inclusion. The word “inclusion” can be frustrating, because the baseline for inclusion is, “We made something in which you weren’t included upfront, and now we have to figure out how to put you in it.” The focus can’t always be on bringing Black presence into those spaces; there is also a responsibility to support what Black people are already building, letting us do our thing. If your support is given upon the condition that we stick within your established frameworks, is it really support?

I often remind people that it takes time and energy to process all this information, put it into a historical context, and really understand disparities caused by antiblackness – especially because, for instance, not all white folks are rich, not all privilege is financial privilege, and so on. On the grand scale, huge financial disparities exist between white and Black people in the U.S. Confronting this may cause discomfort; sitting in discomfort is hard. But I see it the way I see physical exercise – when you’re working out, if you aren’t pushing your muscles to failure you can’t grow. This work is building muscle. This is why understanding that you, even as individuals, are part of the collective is so important. Because, at this point, the individual gets fed up. The individual tires when it gets tough. It can feel so insurmountable, but this is when people can remind themselves that they are part of a collective and have others to help with the load.

When discomfort creeps up, one may go to, for lack of a better idiom, black-and-white thinking. So many people who aren’t Black want to ignore that antiblackness is so deeply rooted in the history of our country, in our economy, in this industry, in our perceptions of the world around us – whose full humanity is or isn’t acknowledged; what defines beauty; what defines intelligence; and much more. When we’re talking about these issues more broadly, going back to the original question of “Why Black History Month?” Why is this distinction, this specificity important? If you’re striving for justice, working to dismantle white supremacy, working toward creating pathways to success for Black folks in this industry and within capitalism, but aren’t talking at all about Blackness specifically, you’re missing something major. There’s something distinct about Black people’s position in this society – just as there’s something distinct about the position of Indigenous, Asian, Latine and other non-white folks in this society.

These white supremacist narratives that erase Blackness’ contributions on this land, that heritage months like Black History Month work to interrupt, became what they are today over centuries of very dedicated legal, cultural, and personal efforts to entrench them. That process took hundreds of years, so why do we expect one workshop, one presentation, one article to be all it takes?


Photo courtesy of Brandi Waller-Pace

LISTEN: Grant Gordy, “Journey to Miniera”

Artist: Grant Gordy
Hometown: Brooklyn, New York
Song: “Journey to Miniera”
Album: Peripheral Visions
Release Date: March 3, 2023

In Their Words: “This music has been a long time coming: I made my debut record, Grant Gordy, 14 years ago with much the same band (Alex Hargreaves on violin, and Dominick Leslie on mandolin), and there’s been a small but consistent clamor for another ‘Grant Gordy Quartet’ record in the intervening years. Somehow it just took this long to come around to it. This time, it was us three with the great Aidan O’Donnell on bass — Aidan and I have been working together frequently since meeting here in NYC almost a decade ago, and we play in the band Mr. Sun together. So I have long-standing relationships with all three of these musicians, and I think that though the GGQ isn’t a full-time project (hence, to some degree, the record’s title Peripheral Visions), that spirit of experimentation and camaraderie comes through in the music. I played with the David Grisman Quintet/Sextet for six years and I feel like ‘Journey to Miniera’ displays the most direct connection to Dawg music on the album, though there are other musical inspirations at play here, too. The title is a dedication to some beautiful friends I’ve made working over in Italy, at a music camp called Minieracustica, truly a paradise-on-earth kind of situation. I can’t wait to make the return journey to Miniera.” — Grant Gordy

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LISTEN: Upstate, “Catalpa”

Artist: Upstate
Hometown: Hudson Valley, New York
Song: “Catalpa”
Album: You Only Get a Few
Release Date: March 31, 2023
Label: Royal Potato Family

In Their Words: “‘Catalpa’ begins with the backdrop of a cold spring rain, but draws quickly to the familiar sounds of a summer night. Spring is such a beautiful but fleeting time of year. The flowers brighten the landscape but they’re gone as quickly as they come. I wrote ‘Catalpa’ after falling in love with tall catalpa trees in the Hudson Valley. They stuck out to me because they bloom in June, after the flowers, which I thought would be a lovely musical image. The chorus came almost as a surprise and carried a much deeper meaning than I had known was there when I was just dwelling on their loveliness. The song moves through moods like seasons, from a melancholy quiet spring morning to a warmer summer night, and the brute urgency of the chorus’ reminder that time is unrelenting. Still I think the song finds a reassuring calm in Mother Nature’s ever new promise of spring.” — Melanie Glenn, Upstate


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