LISTEN: Drew Holcomb & The Neighbors, “Gratitude”

Artist: Drew Holcomb
Hometown: Memphis, Tennessee
Song: “Gratitude”
Release Date: November 18, 2022

In Their Words: “I wrote this song a few days before Thanksgiving last year with my friend Ketch Secor. We were talking about all that was wrong with the world, the troubles everyone is facing, the political division, the unrest, all the post-pandemic blues, and yet in the midst of it, how much there is to be grateful for. I remember asking my grandfather many years ago near the end of his life, what was the best gift he had been given. Without hesitating, he said, ‘Well, life itself.’ That has stuck with me for all these years, despite the troubles and sorrows we all face, we have breath in our lungs, old memories to reflect on and new memories to make, people that we love and people that have loved us, smells and sounds that bring us peace, old friends, changing seasons, and so many other things to give us light in times of darkness. Seeing life through this lens is sometimes an act of courage, and one we needed to remind ourselves of on that day when we wrote this song.” — Drew Holcomb


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Leaning Into Soul and R&B, Ruthie Foster Finds ‘Healing Time’ With Her Band

The talented and resilient Ruthie Foster, whose voice is often compared to Aretha Franklin’s, used the pandemic to reconnect to the music, friends and emotions that have shaped her life. She called on her touring ensemble, The Family Band, as well as producers, co-writers and musicians she knows well to create her ninth album, Healing Time.

Growing up in Texas, Foster was surrounded by southern blues and gospel. During a stint as vocalist with the U.S. Navy Band, she constantly toured with a quickly changing repertoire, from rock, blues and country to military and classical pieces. Today, her varied musical tastes show up in every performance: as she says, “From reggae to Mississippi John Hurt.” Since releasing her first album in 1997, she has played across the country and around the world, drawing in audiences with her big, beautiful voice and her even bigger heart.

A four-time Grammy nominee, Foster has earned many accolades and awards from the Blues Foundation and the Living Blues Awards. She has performed with the icons of contemporary music, from the Allman Brothers to the Blind Boys of Alabama to James Taylor. On November 19, she became only the sixth musician to receive a star on the sidewalk of the Paramount Theater in her adopted hometown of Austin.

BGS: How did Healing Time come together?

Foster: I really wanted to do something that involved my band, something that we could do together. Because that’s my family – my band is my family. And this is the first time I’ve actually recorded with my band for the most part. Coming out of the pandemic, people were starting to gather a bit, and we were asked to record Austin City Limits, a special show without an audience. That was in January after that first year.

So, I flew my band down for that. Scottie Miller, who wrote the song “Healing Time,” is my piano player and lives in Minneapolis. Hadden Sayers, my guitar player, came from Columbus, Ohio. Brennen Temple is here in Austin, and Larry Fulcher, my bass player, is in Houston. So, everybody came in, and while they were here, we sat and wrote together. That’s how it started: Let’s get everybody back together for some writing sessions and be in the same room after so many months of isolation.

Was this your first serious effort at co-writing?

I have co-written a lot, even though not a lot got recorded. When I was in the New York area with Atlantic Records, I co-wrote a lot. It was more of a development deal. I used the time after I signed with them to learn the whole craft. For example, I really learned how to play in front of people, even though I had been doing that for many years. I learned how to write different ways with different people. Those three years were about learning how to write and play to empty venues – because I played at seven o’clock at night, and New Yorkers don’t come out at seven o’clock, you know? But this was the first time writing together with the guys. They’re all writers. They all produce and release their own music. So, I’m very, very lucky and blessed to be able to have them come out with me when they can, because they all tour.

It sounds like you credit collaboration with your band and your producers for the quality of this project.

That was important to me. The focus of this album was to make it a band family project. I used a couple different producers. Mark Howard was wonderful to work with. We started at a studio here in Austin with my band and then went to New Orleans with a wonderful set of fellas over there: basically, the people he worked with on the Emmylou Harris album [1994’s Wrecking Ball]. Then we came back to Austin and worked at a studio with a different producer. Dan Barrett. Dan was able to help me finish off the album because I started touring again in between sessions.

You’re really happy with this whole project. What do you like so much about it?

First, I didn’t really play on this album, I just wanted to sing, and that gave me a lot more freedom to go places I really wanted to go vocally. And it was just so much fun. I wanted to lean more toward soul and R&B, which we did. I have to admit, I have been writing and tweaking some of these tunes for many, many years. The pandemic gave me a chance to pull out some of these cassette tapes and some CDs that had songs that were partially done and rework them. “Don’t Want to Give Up on You” was one of those songs. That started out more folk, just me on a guitar. I changed the groove a little bit, and I changed the chords a little bit, and that’s when it went soul.

“What Kind of Fool” was written by myself, Scottie and Hadden, and this version is nowhere near the demo. Getting ready to record, I’m standing in front of the microphone, everybody else is standing in with their instruments. And Mark surprised us. He gave us a reference track. Gosh, I think it was something that Adele recorded. So, it took us to another place. We slowed it down, added a little more reverb and a little funky, saucy guitar. And it just went somewhere fun — and scary at the same time. Because I’m walking up to the microphone, and this song is a totally different tempo. It’s a totally different groove. I’m trying to figure out where I’m singing here. Let me find space to sing — and that’s also what made it fun.

It shows you had a lot of trust and confidence in everyone.

There was a lot of trust involved as a singer, because usually these guys will play these songs through without a vocal track. And then we’ll try a scratch track. But this one was pretty much me in the room with them, so we were all on the high wire together. Mark brought a very special microphone that had been used for recording people like Frank Sinatra and Etta James, a very expensive and beautiful mic that was so sensitive to sing through. And I was excited to sing through something that made my voice feel so warm, without anything connected to it, almost naked.

Early in your career you were being guided toward pop music, but you preferred to stay closer to the roots music you grew up with. What’s roots music for you?

Roots music is about really simple instrumentation. To me, that’s acoustic guitar and piano, which was my first instrument. For me it was Lightnin’ Hopkins. A lot of his kinfolk lived in the same area where I lived. His nephew Milton Hopkins was still playing around in Texas, so I got a chance to open for him once in a while. So, I was very connected to blues music, and to me that was roots music.

Then it was the folk music I learned on guitar — and a lot of Beatles, James Taylor. And branching off from there, I loved Phoebe Snow and Janis Ian. But I didn’t hear anyone doing soul music in an acoustic way. I think that was what was missing for me. I did Aretha Franklin on acoustic guitar. I did Sam Cooke on acoustic guitar. And for me, that was roots. It’s almost like bringing two different worlds together. And it has a lot to do with the sets that I put together these days.

Did you ever record any Sam Cooke songs?

No, that’s all just live. Once in a while we’ll pull something like that out for an encore. And that’s always fun to watch peoples’ faces turn to smiles. You can see them thinking, “Yeah, I remember ‘You Send Me.’” Yeah, I love doing that. My mother sang gospel music. She sang soul music, too. So, this was just my way of communicating to my mother, who died at 53, doing something like “You Send Me” and remembering how much she and my father loved Sam Cooke’s music.

Can you talk about “4 AM,” a song you wrote while touring in Europe?

I was by myself on this one, although I usually travel with a tour manager. I was in Latvia, but this could have been anywhere. You know, I’ve gone through this in Michigan or sitting in a hotel room in Chicago. You just feel so disconnected after being so connected and plugged in. When I’m on stage, I’m given everything, because it’s just as much for me as it is for the audience. You get up at four in the morning, most of the day is spent traveling. And then you get that little 75- to 90-minute spot to just let your heart go and give what you’re there to do. And then you get all this love at the CD table, and people tell you how much those songs mean to you.

And then you pack it all up and you head back to your Comfort Inn. And you’re trying to find your room key, and you’re holding a guitar and all of your stuff, and you finally get in the room. And then it’s just you. And it’s the middle of the night. And in some ways, it’s very peaceful. But other nights when it’s the fifth night in a row and you’re tired and hungry for a one-on-one, it gets lonely.

On the night I wrote this song, I had a little bit of vodka left from a gift, and I had a beautiful tea set that was brought to me that morning, and I thought I’d just stay up and see what comes up. And that was that. I finished it that night. Obviously, I’m okay, but yeah, you get a little depressed, and it’s easy to slip into a dark side. And I want to confine that to just music.

It’s about plugging in and allowing people to see the real you. That song is as close to me as you’re gonna get for what I was going through that night. I hope people connect with it. I’ve had feedback like that at the CD table. Once this young fellow walked up to me after waiting in a long line. He stood there and just cried. He just bawled. He couldn’t get a word out. So, I had to just hold on to him for a while. When that happens, I know I’ve done something. I’ve touched somebody. That’s also a reminder that I still have work to do. I still have something to say.

Ruthie, is there anything particular you’d like BGS readers to know about you?

Well, you can’t categorize me. I don’t know if it’s a blessing or a curse. But I’ll take whatever it is, as long as what I’m doing reaches people in the deepest way. You can’t put me in a box, and I think that says a lot about not just who I am, but who we all are.


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LISTEN: Angela Strehli, “Trying to Live My Life Without You” (Otis Clay Cover)

Artist: Angela Strehli
Hometown: Lubbock, Texas
Song: “Trying to Live My Life Without You” (Otis Clay cover)
Album: Ace of Blues
Release Date: November 18, 2022
Label: New West Records

In Their Words: “My deepest thanks are to Bob Brown [Strehli’s producer and husband]. He suggested it was time to record a collection of songs by the artists who had most inspired me to be a singer. It was my great fortune to personally know nine of these legendary artists. Bob helped me choose the material and assembled the right combination of players. The sessions were organized so well, we completed this record in less than two weeks’ time.

“Bob and I got to know Otis after a gig of his in Chicago. Sometime later, he asked me to sing with him on a tune he was recording at his home studio which had the original recording equipment of Brunswick Records circa 1950. One day he invited us for lunch to a place called Edna’s in his neighborhood on the rugged West Side. When we finally got a cab driver willing to take us there, we took a seat in a booth. Folks that were seated at the counter and in the booths all around us seemed surprised to see us. In fact the guy sitting behind us put us at ease by asking, ‘You ever been here before? You’re going to love the food. Edna guarantees her food!’ After a few long minutes, Otis showed up, obviously the local hero. Edna immediately came to our table to welcome us. This was a signature tune for Otis and really captured the spirit of our friend. A wonderful man.” — Angela Strehli


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LISTEN: Sicard Hollow, “Escape the Unknown”

Artist: Sicard Hollow
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “Escape the Unknown”
Album: Brightest of Days
Release Date: November 11, 2022

In Their Words: “The intro of the song ‘Escape the Unknown’ first came together from a muscle memory guitar riff. The lyrics came a little while later. It touches on some of the struggles I was going through at the time regarding mental health, addiction, and religion. The jam section was a cumulative band effort, but we made some changes to the original arrangement and lyrics after workshopping them with our producer, John Mailander. This is probably one of the more aggressive, angsty songs on the record, which I think the fans will appreciate.” — Will Herrin (mandolin), Sicard Hollow


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Trampled by Turtles’ Dave Simonett Offers Illuminating Look at ‘Alpenglow’

It was conceived and written during the pandemic, yet Dave Simonett is leery of tethering Trampled by Turtles’ new album Alpenglow to the lockdown. “Fucking COVID record,” he snorts when he wanders into that territory in answering a question about its inspiration.

“I won’t say that the changes in the songwriting have to do with that in particular,” he clarifies. “But I do think it gave me and all of us a real long time to look at everything. I haven’t been home that long in my adult life. It was weird and awful and wonderful and a unique experience that we all went through. It gave me a chance to look inward and to look forward too, into a new and unknown landscape.”

Perhaps that’s why many of the characters that populate Alpenglow are on the precipice of some major change, whether of their own volition or because it’s forced on them. They move to new locations, endure breakups, and generally confront the unknown with eloquent self-awareness.

“I know several groups where certain members didn’t come back. They were like, ‘I love being home and this is way healthier for me,’” Simonett recalls. “I think that all of us who were out of work for a while had that space to make sure we were still on the path we wanted to be on. I realized that I am. But I did some other work. I’ve done a lot of carpentry and construction, and I did some work with a guy I know who runs a remodeling company and it was a blast. And there was a part of me that was like, ‘Maybe I’d like to do this for a while.’ But I did some long hard thinking and decided that the life of music, well, the nightlife ain’t a good life, but it’s my life.”

The album title refers to the reddish and pink glow seen on mountains in the moments just before sunset and sunrise, and TBT’s delicate acoustic interplay perfectly captures the awe of that visual. The six members of the band (Simonett on vocals and guitar, Tim Saxhaug on bass, Dave Carroll on banjo, Erik Berry on mandolin, Ryan Young on fiddle, and Eamonn McLain on cello) each deliver instrumental virtuosity that’s never overdone and always in service of the song.

“Our band is going to turn 20 next year,” Simonett explains. “We’ve had a lot of time together to go through our phases. And I’m sure we’ll continue to do that. We’ve had time to settle in, I guess. We don’t really do a lot of planning before we go into the studio. I’ll show up with the songs and we’ll all learn them together. Sometimes there is a little conversation about ‘Hey, how do we want to approach this session?’ But a lot of that stuff, even if we’re saying it, goes by the wayside once we get in there. It becomes its own beast as we’re making it.”

To tame this new “beast,” Trampled by Turtles reached out to Wilco auteur Jeff Tweedy about producing Alpenglow. They decamped to his Chicago studios with a bit of trepidation about what would transpire.

“It’s an interesting thing going into the studio with somebody,” Simonett admits. “There’s always a feeling before you get there, like, God, I hope this works. If that recording time doesn’t work out, it’s about another year before we got that time on the calendar again. That’s one thing. Another part of it is I’m really excited to work with this person, but I hope we like each other.”

Tweedy quickly put those thoughts to rest when the band counted in “It’s So Hard to Hold On,” which opens the album and features a daring crescendo that mirrors the urgency of the lyrics. It was a song the band had already worked out on their own, or so they thought.

“We were all gung-ho to record that first and we were very happy with it,” Simonett remembers. “By the time Jeff got done with it, it was probably about half the length, and he moved some stuff around and put in that build-up. It’s so funny, you have something you think is done, and then you find out that it could be so much better. He even helped add a couple vocal lines into parts where there was space that he thought could just use something there. That was the first song we recorded, so that was our first time working through a song with Tweedy. It was not at all how I imagined it, but I really liked it better than I had it before.”

He continues, “Almost every song got rearranged in some way by Jeff, vamping on ideas. Sound-wise, that studio is just super cool. We just sat in a circle and played and sang everything live, which Jeff was cool with. He came out and played guitar when he felt like it. It was very casual. It felt like we weren’t even recording. The best way that we can present ourselves is that way, and that whole overall vibe was set up by Jeff.”

Tweedy also encouraged Simonett to do some rewriting. Rather than take offense, Simonett embraced the suggestions. “I felt like I really needed it once we started doing it,” he says. “Anybody that writes, you look at yourself and find yourself falling back on familiar turf. He helped take these songs apart and find different and maybe more interesting ways to put them back together. It was a fun process. I learned a lot from it actually, about kind of doing that on my own and just never settling for something being done until you explore a lot of options with it.”

Simonett rose to the occasion, crafting what may be his strongest set of songs yet. He generally eschews point-to-point narratives, instead allowing old memories, observed details, and bits of world-weary wisdom to do the work. “I’ve never been able to write a good song like that, A to B,” he says. “I’m sitting next to my dog right now, and if I wanted to write a song about my dog, I don’t think I could do it in a linear way. Some people are so great at that, but I guess it’s just not the way my brain works. I’m a little more scattered. It’s all right, and I’ve come to terms with that.”

Simonett and the band made a point of orienting listeners with stirring choruses throughout Alpenglow, choruses usually lifted to the rafters by their homespun harmonies. “Don’t let go,” he begs on the rollicking ode to wanderlust “Starting Over.” Later he implores his lover to “Climb out” with him on “Quitting Is Easy.” By the final strains of “The Party’s Over,” a gloriously sad waltz featuring Simonett’s killer parting shot “The party’s over/And I’m left here thinking/Of the dogs and the moonlight and you,” you’re left with the impression of a band operating at a potent peak. You’d never know just how close Trampled by Turtles came to imploding, before the forced break inspired a fresh approach.

“The older we get, the more breathing room we need,” Simonett muses. “Because we have families, and there are other parts of the garden that need gardening, it’s really important for all of us to keep that balance alive. It’s easy to get carried away with touring. We’re very fortunate that there is no shortage of gigs. But we get in these rhythms where it becomes a lot, and then all of a sudden, you step away from it, and say, ‘Man, that was exhausting. I can use a little time off.’ I feel like we’ve come back at it with a different perspective. We are playing less and being a little bit more conscious about why and where we’re playing. All of that has resulted in us having a really good time playing music. I’ve become thankful for that part of the experience.”

No, Alpenglow isn’t a COVID record, but it may be the most thematic in the Trampled by Turtles discography. “There was a lot more conscious effort into putting these songs into an album. Even leaving some songs out, because they didn’t feel like they fit into it as an album,” Simonett says. “As far as my role in the band in making the record, I feel like it’s the most effort I’ve put into making it seem like a cohesive piece of work.”

Could that mean Simonett and company will go even further next time and give us a TBT concept album?

He laughs: “We’re not there yet.”


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WATCH: Dierks Bentley Featuring Billy Strings, “High Note”

Artists: Dierks Bentley Featuring Billy Strings
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “High Note”
Release Date: November 18, 2022
Label: Capitol Records Nashville

Editor’s Note: “High Note” will be on Bentley’s upcoming 10th album. The studio version of “High Note” ends with a super-jam featuring Jerry Douglas on Dobro, Sam Bush on mandolin, and Billy Strings and Bryan Sutton on guitar.

In Their Words: “Bryan Sutton first tipped me off to Billy Strings about seven years ago mentioning that the future of bluegrass was in good hands. I was totally blown away the first time I saw him. I’ve cut songs like these since my first record, and I knew I wanted to have him on this one, I’m such a huge fan. It was a lot of fun to have him, Jerry, Sam and Bryan all passing licks around — having them all on this record means a lot to me personally.” — Dierks Bentley


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Basic Folk – Melissa Carper

Upright bassist, singer and songwriter Melissa Carper has been playing in bands since she took up the position of bass in her family band at the age of 12. She grew up with a reverence for country music in her small town Nebraska family. The original Carper Family band toured regionally on the weekends at Elks Lodges, VFWs and small bars. Little Melissa made $50 a gig, which allowed her to take her friends out for dinner and gave her an early sense of what it was like to be a paid musician. She attended school for music, but ended up leaving two and a half years in and began her rambling.

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Melissa has lived in Nebraska, New York, Alaska, New Orleans, Arkansas and Austin, to name only a few. She usually has stayed around a place for a couple years until she moves on. Along the way, she’s formed many bands like a new version of The Carper Family, Sad Daddy and Buffalo Gals. In recent years, she’s been releasing albums under her own name, which is strange because she doesn’t like being the center of attention. Her writing is filled with humorous quips, even though she claims to have a “slow wit.” Her classic country sound is unique in that her writing is sharp, her delivery is relaxed and her voice is unreal. She spent a lot of time studying the voices of Hank Williams and Leadbelly to develop that honeyed, yet raw sound. Melissa Carper is the real deal! Go check out her new album Ramblin’ Soul and enjoy our conversation.


Editor’s Note: Basic Folk is currently running their annual fall fundraiser! Visit basicfolk.com/donate for a message from hosts Cindy Howes and Lizzie No, and to support this listener-funded podcast.

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The Show On The Road – Ondara

This week, we talk with Kenyan singer-songwriter Ondara, who came to Minneapolis in search of his voice as a young musician, and found a new creative persona which he now embodies called The Spanish Villager. He has since taken audiences by storm, garnering a Grammy-nomination and now returning with a stunning, politically-charged new LP.

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Spanish Villager No: 3 is produced by Ondara and Mike Viola (Jenny Lewis, Dan Wilson) with collaborations from Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith of Dawes, Sebastian Steinberg, Tim Kuhl and Jeremy Stacey. While he would still call himself a folk singer like his Minneapolis hero Bob Dylan, Ondara (like Dylan) has gone a bit electric on the new offering, harnessing his massive vocal power with a full band around him.

Ondara’s immigrant journey is truly one for the storybooks, and while he has dutifully paid homage to American folk protest singers in his previous work, the newest Spanish Villager work shows him really finding his own sound, at once sharply modern and steeped in a dark history he can’t wait to mine.


BGS 5+5: The Foreign Landers

Artist: The Foreign Landers (David and Tabitha Benedict)
Hometown: Travelers Rest, South Carolina
Latest Album: Travelers Rest
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Tabs and Doodles

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

“Traveler,” the first track on our new album, is a song we wrote from the perspective of Tabitha’s family back in Northern Ireland. Since we moved to the States at the end of 2020, it’s been so difficult being so far away from family, a feeling I’m sure a lot of people are familiar with since the start of the pandemic. We wanted to find a way to capture that sentiment in this song, but it ended up being one of the most difficult writing experiences we’ve had. Not only was it hard to find the words to communicate these feelings, but it was also an emotional process. But after a couple months of challenging writing sessions, we came up with “Traveler” and it’s become a focal point for this new Travelers Rest album.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

We’d have to say Alison Krauss has been one of our biggest inspirations. Tabitha first picked up the banjo in Northern Ireland after hearing Ron Block on Alison’s Every Time You Say Goodbye album. Hard to beat that title track, too! I once heard a 10-year-old kid in New Zealand play Adam Steffey’s mandolin kickoff on this song note for note. Just another testament to how far reaching bluegrass is and how much we owe to Alison and her music!

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Tabitha loves to walk so much! We often take our crazy dog Finn to our favorite hiking haunt Paris Mountain State Park not too far from our home here in Travelers Rest, S.C. While we walk among the beautiful forests and lakes in that park, we talk about songs we want to write and make plans for future music projects. We love that spot so much that we commissioned artist Dealey Dansby to do a linocut interpretation of an iconic reservoir at the park. That same spot was an inspiration in part to another new song of ours called “Garden” — a song all about planting roots in the place you’re in, no matter what the circumstances.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

We absolutely love the clawhammer banjo playing of the great Adam Hurt! His Earth Tones record in particular is played almost nonstop in our car journeys. And since he’s playing a gourd banjo on that record, we think the perfect meal and musician pairing would be stuffed and roasted acorn squash with Adam’s warm banjo tones! Check out one of our favorite tracks from that Earth Tones album, “Old Beech Leaves/Sheeps and Hogs Walking Through the Pasture.”

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

We love this quote from C.S. Lewis, who said, “If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing. … I must keep alive in myself the desire for my true country, which I shall not find till after death; I must never let it get snowed under or turned aside; I must make it the main object of life to press on to that other country and help others to do the same.”

Since Tabitha and I are both from different countries, we often feel like there’s no real place where we can both feel at home. And in a deeper sense, we know that there won’t ever be a place in this life that will fully satisfy our desire to belong somewhere. And I’m sure most people feel that way, too, no matter where you’re from. Our mission statement for our career would simply be to convey with our music that universal longing for something better, and point people to the truth and hope of this deeper reality as Lewis suggests. Nashville songwriter Andrew Peterson really captures that sense of longing for “another world” in his song “The Far Country.” Love his music!


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WATCH: Rhett Miller, “Go Through You”

Artist: Rhett Miller
Hometown: New Paltz, New York
Song: “Go Through You”
Album: The Misfit
Release Date: September 16, 2022
Label: ATO Records

In Their Words: “Asking around various artists and friends in my adopted hometown of New Paltz, New York, I discovered these three young filmmakers James Hyland, Myles Flusser and Alex Young. Their vision for the video was so extravagant and ambitious, I thought that there was no way they could pull it off. And then they did! What they came up with feels to me like a beautiful love letter to New York’s Hudson Valley. After working with these three young artists, I feel like the future is in good hands.” — Rhett Miller


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