Leaning Into Soul and R&B, Ruthie Foster Finds ‘Healing Time’ With Her Band

The talented and resilient Ruthie Foster, whose voice is often compared to Aretha Franklin’s, used the pandemic to reconnect to the music, friends and emotions that have shaped her life. She called on her touring ensemble, The Family Band, as well as producers, co-writers and musicians she knows well to create her ninth album, Healing Time.

Growing up in Texas, Foster was surrounded by southern blues and gospel. During a stint as vocalist with the U.S. Navy Band, she constantly toured with a quickly changing repertoire, from rock, blues and country to military and classical pieces. Today, her varied musical tastes show up in every performance: as she says, “From reggae to Mississippi John Hurt.” Since releasing her first album in 1997, she has played across the country and around the world, drawing in audiences with her big, beautiful voice and her even bigger heart.

A four-time Grammy nominee, Foster has earned many accolades and awards from the Blues Foundation and the Living Blues Awards. She has performed with the icons of contemporary music, from the Allman Brothers to the Blind Boys of Alabama to James Taylor. On November 19, she became only the sixth musician to receive a star on the sidewalk of the Paramount Theater in her adopted hometown of Austin.

BGS: How did Healing Time come together?

Foster: I really wanted to do something that involved my band, something that we could do together. Because that’s my family – my band is my family. And this is the first time I’ve actually recorded with my band for the most part. Coming out of the pandemic, people were starting to gather a bit, and we were asked to record Austin City Limits, a special show without an audience. That was in January after that first year.

So, I flew my band down for that. Scottie Miller, who wrote the song “Healing Time,” is my piano player and lives in Minneapolis. Hadden Sayers, my guitar player, came from Columbus, Ohio. Brennen Temple is here in Austin, and Larry Fulcher, my bass player, is in Houston. So, everybody came in, and while they were here, we sat and wrote together. That’s how it started: Let’s get everybody back together for some writing sessions and be in the same room after so many months of isolation.

Was this your first serious effort at co-writing?

I have co-written a lot, even though not a lot got recorded. When I was in the New York area with Atlantic Records, I co-wrote a lot. It was more of a development deal. I used the time after I signed with them to learn the whole craft. For example, I really learned how to play in front of people, even though I had been doing that for many years. I learned how to write different ways with different people. Those three years were about learning how to write and play to empty venues – because I played at seven o’clock at night, and New Yorkers don’t come out at seven o’clock, you know? But this was the first time writing together with the guys. They’re all writers. They all produce and release their own music. So, I’m very, very lucky and blessed to be able to have them come out with me when they can, because they all tour.

It sounds like you credit collaboration with your band and your producers for the quality of this project.

That was important to me. The focus of this album was to make it a band family project. I used a couple different producers. Mark Howard was wonderful to work with. We started at a studio here in Austin with my band and then went to New Orleans with a wonderful set of fellas over there: basically, the people he worked with on the Emmylou Harris album [1994’s Wrecking Ball]. Then we came back to Austin and worked at a studio with a different producer. Dan Barrett. Dan was able to help me finish off the album because I started touring again in between sessions.

You’re really happy with this whole project. What do you like so much about it?

First, I didn’t really play on this album, I just wanted to sing, and that gave me a lot more freedom to go places I really wanted to go vocally. And it was just so much fun. I wanted to lean more toward soul and R&B, which we did. I have to admit, I have been writing and tweaking some of these tunes for many, many years. The pandemic gave me a chance to pull out some of these cassette tapes and some CDs that had songs that were partially done and rework them. “Don’t Want to Give Up on You” was one of those songs. That started out more folk, just me on a guitar. I changed the groove a little bit, and I changed the chords a little bit, and that’s when it went soul.

“What Kind of Fool” was written by myself, Scottie and Hadden, and this version is nowhere near the demo. Getting ready to record, I’m standing in front of the microphone, everybody else is standing in with their instruments. And Mark surprised us. He gave us a reference track. Gosh, I think it was something that Adele recorded. So, it took us to another place. We slowed it down, added a little more reverb and a little funky, saucy guitar. And it just went somewhere fun — and scary at the same time. Because I’m walking up to the microphone, and this song is a totally different tempo. It’s a totally different groove. I’m trying to figure out where I’m singing here. Let me find space to sing — and that’s also what made it fun.

It shows you had a lot of trust and confidence in everyone.

There was a lot of trust involved as a singer, because usually these guys will play these songs through without a vocal track. And then we’ll try a scratch track. But this one was pretty much me in the room with them, so we were all on the high wire together. Mark brought a very special microphone that had been used for recording people like Frank Sinatra and Etta James, a very expensive and beautiful mic that was so sensitive to sing through. And I was excited to sing through something that made my voice feel so warm, without anything connected to it, almost naked.

Early in your career you were being guided toward pop music, but you preferred to stay closer to the roots music you grew up with. What’s roots music for you?

Roots music is about really simple instrumentation. To me, that’s acoustic guitar and piano, which was my first instrument. For me it was Lightnin’ Hopkins. A lot of his kinfolk lived in the same area where I lived. His nephew Milton Hopkins was still playing around in Texas, so I got a chance to open for him once in a while. So, I was very connected to blues music, and to me that was roots music.

Then it was the folk music I learned on guitar — and a lot of Beatles, James Taylor. And branching off from there, I loved Phoebe Snow and Janis Ian. But I didn’t hear anyone doing soul music in an acoustic way. I think that was what was missing for me. I did Aretha Franklin on acoustic guitar. I did Sam Cooke on acoustic guitar. And for me, that was roots. It’s almost like bringing two different worlds together. And it has a lot to do with the sets that I put together these days.

Did you ever record any Sam Cooke songs?

No, that’s all just live. Once in a while we’ll pull something like that out for an encore. And that’s always fun to watch peoples’ faces turn to smiles. You can see them thinking, “Yeah, I remember ‘You Send Me.’” Yeah, I love doing that. My mother sang gospel music. She sang soul music, too. So, this was just my way of communicating to my mother, who died at 53, doing something like “You Send Me” and remembering how much she and my father loved Sam Cooke’s music.

Can you talk about “4 AM,” a song you wrote while touring in Europe?

I was by myself on this one, although I usually travel with a tour manager. I was in Latvia, but this could have been anywhere. You know, I’ve gone through this in Michigan or sitting in a hotel room in Chicago. You just feel so disconnected after being so connected and plugged in. When I’m on stage, I’m given everything, because it’s just as much for me as it is for the audience. You get up at four in the morning, most of the day is spent traveling. And then you get that little 75- to 90-minute spot to just let your heart go and give what you’re there to do. And then you get all this love at the CD table, and people tell you how much those songs mean to you.

And then you pack it all up and you head back to your Comfort Inn. And you’re trying to find your room key, and you’re holding a guitar and all of your stuff, and you finally get in the room. And then it’s just you. And it’s the middle of the night. And in some ways, it’s very peaceful. But other nights when it’s the fifth night in a row and you’re tired and hungry for a one-on-one, it gets lonely.

On the night I wrote this song, I had a little bit of vodka left from a gift, and I had a beautiful tea set that was brought to me that morning, and I thought I’d just stay up and see what comes up. And that was that. I finished it that night. Obviously, I’m okay, but yeah, you get a little depressed, and it’s easy to slip into a dark side. And I want to confine that to just music.

It’s about plugging in and allowing people to see the real you. That song is as close to me as you’re gonna get for what I was going through that night. I hope people connect with it. I’ve had feedback like that at the CD table. Once this young fellow walked up to me after waiting in a long line. He stood there and just cried. He just bawled. He couldn’t get a word out. So, I had to just hold on to him for a while. When that happens, I know I’ve done something. I’ve touched somebody. That’s also a reminder that I still have work to do. I still have something to say.

Ruthie, is there anything particular you’d like BGS readers to know about you?

Well, you can’t categorize me. I don’t know if it’s a blessing or a curse. But I’ll take whatever it is, as long as what I’m doing reaches people in the deepest way. You can’t put me in a box, and I think that says a lot about not just who I am, but who we all are.


Photo Credit: Jody Domingue

BGS 5+5: The Deer’s Grace Rowland

Artist: The Deer (answers by Grace Rowland)
Hometown: San Marcos/Austin, Texas
Latest Album: The Beautiful Undead
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): We used to be called Grace Park and The Deer, when I was using that stage name and it was more my folk songwriting project. We have many silly names for Noah, our fiddle/mandolinist, including Nugiel and Space Nug. Our guitar player Michael goes by Deenyo.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

They don’t always come easy, and the muse is ephemeral, like a Whac-A-Mole. We strike when the iron is hot and write independently as much as we can, but we also have to force ourselves to get together and record every now and then whatever comes to mind, even when in a drought. These “drought” sessions are some of the toughest because they are so open-ended. But a lot of good can come from them — the song “Six-Pointed Star” comes to mind right now. It started as a simple song we made in the woods, but when we took it to the studio we had the worst time trying to make it sound right. We must have made four different versions until we finally hit it, but now it is one of our favorites to play.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

Gillian Welch’s rustic realism
John Hartford’s wordsmithing
Depeche Mode’s moody chord progressions and deep bass
Pink Floyd’s subtle layering and studio techniques
Tori Amos’ outspoken poignancy and fearless lyricism

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

For me, it’s often the other way around. I will write from a first-person perspective to make it sound like it’s me, but the person is actually someone else in another body, and the events are imaginary, or real but in another time. In this way I feel like I can transcend time and space lyrically, perhaps to sound a call for mystical encounters that would be otherwise impossible, or to set the stage for events that have yet to happen. One example is the lyricism in “Like Through the Eye,” a billowing romp of a dream that never actually took place, but an experience that I have always envisioned and desired to happen to me. Songs are a way of bringing these things to me. Jesse, however, does this all the time. For instance in our new single “Bellwether,” the original lyrics were “I am falling farther into Me.” As a narcissistic ode to ourselves it served a purpose, but for our greater audience we decided to soften it into a palatable love song.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Bodies of water would be our main way of connecting with nature as a group. We make it a point to visit rivers, oceans, hot springs, and lakes wherever we can, and take in Earth’s most valuable essence, and all the plants and animals they gather around them. In lyrics we often reference the sea and the river, flora and fauna, and interspecies relationships, because they reflect the cosmological order that governs our bodies and our feelings. Our complex emotions can be understood better when we zoom out and realize that we are not only driven by this order, but a vital part of it.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I was really into musicals as a kid, watching VHS tapes for hours on end and learning every song. My first concert was Lilith Fair in 1997. I was 12, and it was life-changing. However, my decision to actually pursue music as a career didn’t come until my early 20s, when I met a large swath of working musicians at Kerrville Folk Festival in 2006. Seeing so many people my age who were writing their own songs and touring independently, traveling with freedom and spreading their art, was enough to set my intent upon making that dream real.

Whether we got started later or earlier in life, as a group the media we consumed as kids was probably 100% responsible for illustrating an applied use for the gifts we knew we possessed. MTV (back when they played music videos), the Grammys, Saturday Night Live, the Super Bowl halftime show, and yes, even church — these mainstream outlets showed us at an early age what it looked like when someone was giving it their all to entertain their community, and the world. It was enough to inspire each of us to hone our skills, and bring our talent to people on our own scale.

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Photo credit: Barbara FG

BGS 5+5: Jonathan Terrell

Artist: Jonathan Terrell
Hometown: Austin, Texas
Latest EP: A Couple 2, 3 (out September 9 on Range Music)
Personal Nicknames: “Feral Terrell”

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I was driving back from busking in San Diego for a couple of months. I was out of money and a good friend of mine’s parents wired me $200 to get home to East Texas. I was very discouraged. I had a handful of songs that I thought were good and turned out playing for tips on the boardwalk wasn’t going to make me enough to eat and rent a couch, so on that long drive home I was somewhere in the Arizona desert on Interstate 10 and I pulled over and had a good cry. I knew at that moment I was going to be a songwriter, an artist and somebody that was going to leave an impression on this world. Before I made it to my parents’ house, I stopped at a junior college and enrolled in the music program. I got a free ride if I sang in the men’s choir because they were short of a dusty tenor. I dropped out a year and a half later to go on tour. I’ve pretty much been on tour since.

What has been the best advice you’ve received in your career so far?

My uncle was a big Nashville cat. He sang in Reba’s band and has sung high tenor harmonies on over 25,000 albums. I was obsessed with country music growing up and he was my only link from East Texas to the mecca of songwriting. I played him some terrible songs at 18 and he was very patient while listening. His advice was simple. “Don’t tell me about it. Paint it for me.”

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

I think Kris Kristofferson has got to be right there at the top. When I moved to Austin in 2005 from Longview, Texas, I thought for sure I was destined to be the next Kris. It’s pretty hilariously naive looking back, but a kid’s gotta have heroes and he was and is still mine. I’ve probably studied his songs more than anyone’s. There’s a raw and exciting poetry to his work but also an approachable simplicity. It’s a master class in songwriting and composition every time I sit down with an album like Border Lord or The Silver Tongued Devil and I. I think about these albums when I paint a picture in a song. An easy close second would be Willie.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

A good friend once told me that there’s a huge difference between having no traction at all and a little bit of traction. I first saw a little bit of that traction while playing the White Horse in Austin, Texas, week after week. When the band is crushing it and the dancefloor is packed with amazing two steppers (which I do believe Austin has the best two-step culture in the country) it’s like being in the eye of a hurricane. It’s about 105 degrees and it’s all cowboy hats, naked knees, flipping skirts and sweaty bodies churning and churning to your song. There ain’t nothing like it.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

I was doing a show up in Oklahoma with a songwriter named Butch Hancock and Turnpike Troubadours. I got to talking with Butch over a few beers in the parking lot of an old motor lodge where the venue put us up and he asked me what my hobbies were. I shrugged and said it was just writing songs. He kinda snapped at me like I was crazy and told me if I didn’t find another hobby I was going to shoot my songs in the foot. “One day your well is gonna dry up and if you don’t have another place to fill it, who knows if you’ll ever get it back.” Really terrifying words for a young songwriter. I bought a camera soon after and started studying portraits as well as documenting my tour life. Certain films and books have of course inspired many of my songs. I’m a huge Cormac McCarthy and Larry McMurtry fan. Photography has become a serious passion for me and sometimes a camera can be a great way to meet people. I have my first gallery show October 28 in Lockhart, Texas, at the Commerce Gallery. I’m pretty excited about it and am definitely inviting Butch!


Photo Credit: Greg Giannukos

WATCH: The Western Express, “Honky Tonk Saints”

Artist: The Western Express
Hometown: Austin, Texas
Song: “Honky Tonk Saints”
Album: Lunatics, Lovers & Poets
Release Date: August 5, 2022

In Their Words: “‘Honky Tonk Saints’ was one of the first country songs I wrote after playing church music for many years before. One night while I was riding home in an Uber, I thought, ‘What if the honky-tonk were our church? How would we take communion at the honky-tonk? What would the praise songs be? Who would be the saints of the honky-tonk?’ I originally wrote it for people like Hank Williams, Willie Nelson, and Kitty Wells. But in 2020 and 2021, James Hand and James White died — two Austin honky-tonk heroes who were larger than life to me. James White owned the Broken Spoke, and gave us our start by booking us in the very beginning. We recorded a great music video at that venue, and it’s dedicated to our two local heroes, Hand and White.” — Stephen Castillo, The Western Express


Photo Credit: Eryn Brooke

LISTEN: Nick Pagliari, “Down in a Rainstorm”

Artist: Nick Pagliari
Hometown: Memphis, Tennessee
Song: Down in a Rainstorm
Album: Hard Lessons
Release Date: July 22, 2022
Label: Ride the River Records

In Their Words: “The song was written during a jog one spring afternoon in my neighborhood of North Austin. I got caught in a torrential rain that came out of nowhere and at some point started humming what would become the chorus. I remember a feeling of excitement and liberation as I ran through the storm. This was pre-pandemic so it wasn’t until later that I realized that the whole thing was somewhat metaphorical.” — Nick Pagliari


Photo Credit: Barbara FG

The Show On The Road – Buffalo Nichols

This week on the show, we talk to a startling new talent placing a gut-punch into the folk and blues scene, the Milwaukee-raised and now Austin-based singer-songwriter Buffalo Nichols.

 

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Growing up learning on his sister’s dreadnought guitar and then traveling widely through West Africa after high school drinking up the sounds of the kora and percussion players in Senegal, Carl Nichols began finding his voice and playing style in the haunting open and minor tunings first heard from bluesmen like Skip James, who he covers in his remarkable self-titled debut collection. Buffalo Nichols, which came in 2021, is a stark departure from what Carl would call the cheery “opinionless beer commercial blues” that has come to dominate the genre. Nichols’ work is often sparse and direct – just a man with his guitar and a microphone. The stories told in standout songs like “Another Man” and “Living Hell” don’t flinch from comparing how the experience of his elders a hundred years ago in the South may not look much different from men like George Floyd dying on that Minneapolis pavement. Is there catharsis or hope in the songs? Are they a call to action? Maybe that’s up to us to decide.

Carl will admit that it can be tricky trying play his songs like the searing album opener “Lost And Lonesome” in loud bars where people may just want to have a good time and not dive into the backroad history of racial injustice and institutionalized police violence. Thankfully his writing doesn’t hide behind niceties and the recordings aren’t veiled by sonic artifice – Nichols speaks directly to the isolation and danger of being a young Black man in America, and trying to navigate the unease of bringing his stories to an often mostly white Americana-adjacent audience. Even more upbeat numbers like “Back On Top” call to mind the ominous juke-joint growl of John Lee Hooker, bringing us into dimly lit scenes where even late-night pleasure may have its next-morning consequences.

If there’s one thing we learned during this taping, it’s that Carl doesn’t want to just “write songs to make people feel good” – but he does want to tell stories that make the isolated and lost feel less so. Maybe that is the most important function of music truly steeped in the blues tradition: the ability to transform pain into progress. The messages may not be what people always want to hear, but the groundswell rising behind Carl’s stark timeless tales is indeed growing. With recent appearances on Late Night With Stephen Colbert, NPR’s Tiny Desk Concerts and big time dates like Lollapalooza on the books for the summer, folks will be hearing a lot more from Buffalo Nichols.


Photo Credit: Merrick Ales

WATCH: Abigail Lapell, “All Dressed Up”

Artist: Abigail Lapell
Hometown: Toronto
Song: “All Dressed Up”
Album: Stolen Time
Release Date: April 22, 2022
Label: Outside Music

In Their Words: “‘All Dressed Up’ is a fever dream of isolation and claustrophobia, circumscribed by all these obsolete media machines — but with a semi-hopeful note, too, about making the best of an absurd situation, or at least, ‘this too shall pass.’ And spring will come again. The video was shot in Austin, Texas during SXSW, with local filmmaker Max Conru. It was my first time at South-by, and first time out on the road in quite a while, so it was super fun getting to capture the early days of spring and visit some iconic Austin sightseeing spots.” — Abigail Lapell


Photo Credit: Jen Squires

LISTEN: Tody Castillo, “What It Means to Be a Man”

Artist: Tody Castillo
Hometown: Austin, Texas
Song: “What It Means to Be a Man”
Album: Old Rodriguez
Release Date: April 8, 2022
Label: Strolling Bones Records

In Their Words: “This is a song about a person dealing with depression and anxiety without a playbook. It touches on the second-guessing nature of someone who is emotionally damaged. It deals with overcoming fear and uncertainty through bravery. It’s a story about a person hanging onto their dreams with what feels like the weight of the world on their back. ‘What It Means To Be a Man’ is the third tune on the album and I believe it sets the tone for the remaining songs. I love the dreamy soundscape that engineer/mixing engineer Steve Christensen (Steve Earle, Khruangbin, Paul McCartney) creates during the bridge. I was also able to use a 12 string Rickenbacker throughout the tune which ties it all together. Who doesn’t love a 12 string?!” — Tody Castillo


Photo Credit: Justin Cook

BGS Top 50 Moments: SXSW Brooklyn Country Cantina

It was a collaboration that quickly became one of our favorite events of the year (and definitely the best part of every marathon SXSW week): The Brooklyn Country Cantina was held for five years at Licha’s Cantina in East Austin in partnership with BGS. Featuring an ever-evolving rotation of talent, it was a launch pad for so many artists in the BGS fam, and a special laid-back underplay for those buzzworthy artists wrapping up a crazy week.

Instead of being another schmoozy networking event at SXSW, the BCC was always a reprieve away from the chaotic cacophony of downtown Austin or Congress Street — an all-ages affair where artists and fans alike got to see their friends, take a breather, and eat some really good tacos.

Below, rediscover some of our favorite moments from the Brooklyn Country Cantina, as captured by BGS photographers: