BGS Top 50 Moments: Our First Website

On the morning of April 22, 2012, the original iteration of TheBluegrassSituation.com went live. That first website was a little more basic than the version you see today — just a few articles, local show listings, photos and videos, and a page for the LA Bluegrass Situation festival. The site proudly featured our first logo design, as depicted above, by DKNG in Santa Monica. There was even a community discussion board (remember those??).

Of course, we had no idea at the time what lay ahead for us, but in retrospect, it’s clear that who we are now was there on that first day, and we’ve been proudly building on that foundation ever since. Read more about the beginning of BGS.

Stay tuned every week for another memorable milestone from the past ten years in our new BGS TOP 50 MOMENTS series.

BGS 5+5: The Kernal

Artist: The Kernal
Hometown: Jackson, Tennessee
Latest album: Listen to the Blood
Rejected band name: Andrew Combs’ manager (Davis Inman) talked me out of calling my band “The Kernal & His Handsome Privates”

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

John Hartford probably hasn’t influenced my music as much as he has inspired it (because I’m nowhere near the musician that he was), but Hartford had a way of doing things like retaining his inner 7-year-old while writing a very poignant song about society or something seemingly little but important, and doing it all at a world-class musical level. He was excellent in every aspect of the process and I just never can get enough of him. David Bowie taught me that creating music can be more multi-dimensional than the just binary relationship between singer and audience (which turned out to be really important to me) but it’s Hartford for my money.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

I really love any form of creative output and the paths you can be led down through experiencing them. For example, I was very into a Polish filmmaker named Krzysztof Kieślowski a few years back. He did a project called The Decalogue (which I encourage everyone to watch) and he also did a color trilogy (Blue, White, Red) and I was immediately drawn in by the Red film because I had already begun this project by the time I saw it and was wearing the red suit as a theme of the project. During the movie you find out that the main character is named Joseph Kern. This freaked me out because my name is Joseph and then the whole Kern thing. I immediately felt a deeper connection with him. I love those connections you can find through dance, music, writing, any of that — they aren’t algorithmic. There’s something more real about those kinds of connections and a lot of times it seems like they find you if you’re able to see them.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

The first time I was ever mesmerized by music was when I was around 5 years old after my sister put a 45 on the record player by The Cascades and the song was “Listen to the Rhythm of the Falling Rain.” Maybe that’s not the first time I wanted to be a musician but that song put me on the map for being enraptured by it. I saw Jose Gonzalez + Cass McCombs once in Louisville before I was doing much music and I was blown away at how incredible it was — that was around the time I started trying to write on my own. I remember doing it a lot more after that — there was something magical in the room. Bonnie “Prince” Billy was in the crowd too and I shook his hand, maybe I got the bug from him.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

On Listen to the Blood there’s a silly tune called “Super (Marijuana) Wal-Mart” about a fictitious Wal-Mart where everything is made out of cannabis and all the old folks in this small town are up in arms about it. At the very end of the song the manager of the store comes out on a loudspeaker and tries to convince these people of all the amazing products they could purchase if they just come on inside. This part took me about a year to write because I wanted him spouting off all kinds of weird products and the cadence of it had to be just right. It may not sound like something that would take a person a year to finish, but there it is.

What has been the best advice you’ve received in your career so far?

The best advice I received was actually just a story that I was told by Norbert Putnam (legendary Muscle Shoals musician) about Roy Orbison. He told me that Roy had just gotten a new motorcycle and decided to take it down on Broadway in downtown Nashville. As he pulled up to a stoplight he noticed some teenage boys on the corner making fun and pointing at the old man on the motorcycle, not realizing it was Orbison of course. As you might expect, Orbison was incensed and began revving up the engine to show those boys that he wasn’t a chump. When the light turned green he took off but shifted wrong and the bike fell over on top of him. He had to motion to the same kids to come pull the bike off of him. Sometimes I imagine Orbison saying, “Don’t rev the engine if you can’t shift the gears.”


Photo Credit: December Rain Hansen

LISTEN: Max Allard, “Fiori”

Artist: Max Allard
Hometown: Chicago
Song: “Fiori”
Album: Odes / Codes
Release Date: January 21, 2022

In Their Words: “I wrote this tune for our next-door neighbors, the Fiori family, on the day they moved away. It was bittersweet because they had been wonderful neighbors and friends. They were originally from Italy, and for a long time I thought their name meant fire, but I later learned it means flowers. In September of 2020, they left Chicago for someplace sunnier and warmer. I couldn’t blame them, but we knew we would miss them. The tune itself is written with a ragtime sensibility. Scott Joplin was an early influence for me, and I think his style rubbed off on me in some ways. It’s one of the more upbeat tunes on the album but still has melancholic harmonies and melodies.” — Max Allard


Photo Credit: Evan Sheehan

Finding Inspiration in Creation, Ellie Holcomb Moves Forward in Love

As a consequence of growing up in the music industry and singing background vocals on albums since she was 8, Ellie Holcomb opted not to seek a future as a professional singer.

“I actually decided that I didn’t want to be a part of it at an early age, which is hilarious,” says Holcomb, who today has a thriving career as a Christian music singer and also records and performs with her husband, Drew Holcomb. It amounts to two separate careers, with her solo music tending towards inspirational anthems and the duo producing a more intimate Americana sound. Ellie’s powerful voice is equally adept at belting out a dramatic ballad or giving a more tender, reserved performance.

Ellie’s father is producer Brown Bannister, who produced albums by Amy Grant and many other Christian singers. He now runs the music school at Lipscomb University in Nashville.

“I was around a lot of people who did this for their work,” she says. “I’m so grateful because I saw from a really young age the power of music to encourage, to bring hope and to help people feel less alone. But I also saw the cost of doing music, like you have to leave. It’s often really hard on families.”

For our Artist of the Month interview, Ellie fielded questions from BGS as she and Drew drove to Chattanooga for a performance. (Read our Artist of the Month interview with Drew.)

BGS: You’ve got a powerful voice. When did you first realize that?

Oh, thank you. I guess from a pretty young age. I was singing in studios with my dad. When the budget ran out, I would come and be the background singer on whatever project he was working on.

What a great way to get experience.

I’ve kind of learned from the best in terms of how to become a singer. But I think even on this last record (Canyon, 2021), there were parts of my voice that I didn’t really know were there. As I’ve gotten older, there’s been this other realm that I’ve tapped into. It feels like painting with more colors. That’s been really fun, to realize I have this whole other set of tones and colors and textures that I didn’t realize in my voice.

Who are some of the artists you worked with as a child?

I sang on (Amy Grant’s) Home for Christmas as a little 8-year-old girl. It’s kind of hard to imagine artists in the Christian world that I haven’t sung with. I’ve done Sandi Patty back in the day, Steven Curtis Chapman, Matthew West, Charlie Peacock, Mercy Me, Bart Millard. It’s hilarious because there will be songs I’m hearing and I’m like, “Oh, it’s me. I forgot I sang on that.”

How do you and Drew differ in your music tastes?

It’s interesting. We have a lot of overlap in what we love. He grew up listening to Bob Dylan and Van Morrison. When I grew up, my dad was making records with Amy Grant. I love Sara Groves. Then we both love Carole King. He leans a little more into the rock land, and I lean more singer-songwriter.

You have young children (Emmylou, 9; Huck, 6; and Rivers, 3). Is touring difficult for you and Drew because of that?

I feel like we found a really beautiful way to kind of blend all that together. We bring the kids on the road a lot and we tour together and apart. So we kind of have a crazy schedule. But thankfully, Drew is a logistical ninja. He’s really good at keeping tabs on where everybody is and childcare. We’ve got a village of people that have come around us. We just keep getting family members and nannies (to help). It just feels like when they have to move on, we have another aunt in the arsenal. So we have been very blessed to have family and friends and incredible nannies come alongside of us as we do this crazy music life.

You quit your husband’s band (Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors) after seven years in 2012, and then pursued a solo career. What brought that about?

I’d actually quit Drew’s band to be a stay-at-home mom. Our daughter was in a car seat for over eight hours a day. By the time she was six months, she’d been to 32 states and Canada. And I’m like, “I don’t think I can keep her in a car seat for seven hours a day, poor thing.” So I quit to do the mom thing.

How did that morph into launching a solo career?

It was hilarious. I kept trying to write songs for his band. But often when I would sit down to write a song, I would say, “Drew, I’m so sorry, I accidentally wrote another song about God.” I didn’t mean to, but I’m just a spiritual person. I don’t fully understand everything, and I feel really comfortable in a lot of the mystery, but that is something that my heart has always been drawn to. And so I loved what Drew’s response was. He was like, “Hey, write what’s in you. Let those songs out.”

When he said that, it lit a fire within me. I don’t know that I needed permission from him, but all of a sudden I just felt this freedom to sing what was in my heart. That’s usually me saying, “I believe, but help my unbelief.” I’m usually wrestling my faith to the ground. I’m working my faith out through song. I guess the songs were helping me find some semblance of peace and comfort and solace. So I thought, “Man, maybe they’d help somebody else. That’d be cool.”

Does the divisiveness going on now in the U.S. tempt you to write political songs?

I don’t know that it does. I feel called to move forward in love, and I guess sometimes that will intersect, politically speaking, in terms of using your voice to speak up on behalf of those who maybe don’t have a voice. That can look political at times. But I think for me, I’m less motivated by politics and more motivated by love and peacemaking. But sometimes to make peace, you’ve got to tell the truth.

Many of your solo videos are filmed with spectacular nature backgrounds. Why do you return to that approach so often?

It’s very intentional because creation itself is one of the ways that I experience God most. I feel like the story of love beating death is written all over creation. When the (coronavirus) numbers were low, we did a trip where we went down into the Grand Canyon, rafted the Colorado River, spent the night on the riverbanks and then rafted out. While we were down there, a guide was telling us that in the Grand Canyon, the walls really tell a story. It’s actually a story of disaster upon disaster: landslide, mudslide, volcano, earthquake, flood, drought. Then there’s this great divide split wide open by a river, and I thought, this just looks like a picture of literally all of our hearts, especially after the last two years. There is a current of love that runs deeper than our deepest ache, pain or longing that will carry us back to a place where we can know that we’re beloved, no matter how broken we are. I’m like, “All right, let’s get in a place where I’m reminded of that. Maybe it’ll remind other people of that.”

You’ve spoken on stage about seeking help for depression and anxiety. Why did you decide to do that?

I want everybody to know how precious they are. I want to remember it myself and I want kids to know that. So it’s been a joy to speak openly about depression and anxiety and worry and fear and division and to say, these are all real things in a broken world. But we’re invited to be hope-people and bridge-building people and people who are about reconciliation and love. I really love getting to come stumbling and tripping and broken and full of doubt and fear sometimes into the presence of love. And I will happily hobble my way into that presence over and over again and invite others to come along with me.


Photo Credit: Ashtin Paige

LISTEN: The Del McCoury Band, “Honky Tonk Nights” (Featuring Vince Gill)

Artist: The Del McCoury Band
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “Honky Tonk Nights” (Featuring Vince Gill)
Album: Almost Proud
Release Date: February 18, 2022
Label: McCoury Music

In Their Words: “I love singing with Vince. We’ve done a lot through the years but this is the first time I’ve found the perfect song to have him on my album. I am thrilled with how this song turned out and grateful to Vince for his friendship and his love and support of bluegrass.” — Del McCoury


Photo Credit: Señor McGuire

Drew Holcomb, Bandleader and Bourbon Collector, Taps Into a New Golden Age

Drew Holcomb writes and sings often about the comforts of home and family life, but don’t assume he’s setting his family and himself as role models.

The leader of roots-rockers Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors, Drew (who is the BGS Artist of the Month for January along with wife Ellie Holcomb) is quick to point out that the couple is “not trying to portray any sort of ideal.”

“We just write about our life,” says the singer-songwriter, whose most recent projects are a tour and compilation album with Ellie. “That’s sort of the season that we’re in. It would be disingenuous for me to try to write anything different than what I see and experience, the lens that I have.” Drew says he does have some narrative songs in his catalogue that are less personal, “but it’s not tended to be where I’m drawn to as a songwriter.”

Of nine songs on the new collection Coming Home: A Collection of Songs, the couple harmonize twice about the comforts of home, four times about their love for each other, once about their love for their “wild man” 3-year-old son Rivers and once about the need to “Love Anyway.” The collection concludes with a cover of Willie Nelson’s “On the Road Again,” which is appropriate given their You and Me Tour, which launches February 4 in Jacksonville, Florida.

BGS called the couple for companion interviews; enjoy Ellie’s Q&A here.

BGS: Your band, Ellie’s solo work, and the duo each have a separate, unique sound. Do you purposely work to give each a different style?

Drew Holcomb: Part of that’s personality. When I’m recording with the Neighbors, it’s always the same players, who I’ve been playing together with for years. And then Ellie has worked with different producers and different musicians than me, and she has her own stylistic creative impulses and decisions. So those two roles are clearly differentiated, and then we get together. We decided to let each song sort of dictate itself. There’s some good variety in there, but it lends itself toward more of a singer-songwriter vibe with a little more atmospheric, sonic landscape kind of creativity.

After Ellie left the band (Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors), she eventually started a successful career in Christian music. Where did the idea of also working as a duet come from?

She was in the band and took seven years off from that, and is still not in the band, but we do this (You and Me) tour together every year. We thought we should write some new music. We had not written together in almost a decade. We just put them up on Spotify and stuff like that, and they actually performed really well. The music sort of became its own sort of separate entity from my work with the Neighbors and her solo work.

Your take on Sting’s “Fields of Gold” pares back the production for a comparatively sparse interpretation. You and Ellie also do that on your Kitchen Covers series. Why that approach?

I primarily see myself as a songwriter, maybe secondarily as a singer. And thirdly, as a performer, entertainer. The genius of a song can get lost in some of the ornate production and people just think about it as a pop song, right? They don’t hear the great songwriting at the bare bones of it. I’m not a theatrical, big singer. So I kind of quiet things down, take the dynamic down on an “Islands In the Stream.” It’s just an interesting approach.

You’ve mentioned Van Morrison and Bob Seger as influences in the past. Who else are your musical heroes?

I love Tom Petty for a lot of reasons. I love how he played with the same guys for the majority of his career, working with different producers, made different styles of records but always with the same sort of North Star. Springsteen. There’s so many. Carole King, Emmylou Harris, Willie Nelson. There’s like 100 persons.

Americana is increasingly the category of singer-songwriters in popular music, where in the past comparable artists like Jim Croce and James Taylor had big hits on the mainstream pop charts. Is that frustrating for you?

Yes, certainly it is, to some degree. But if I was starting out in 1971, I don’t think I was good enough to have gotten a label deal, the only way to get records released in that era. The era I was born in gave me that long runway to hone my craft. Yes, there’s not as much opportunity commercially for what artists like myself do. But if it ever is frustrating, it’s something I move on from pretty quickly, just because you can’t change when you were born. I do think it’s actually a really wonderful time to put out music because there’s a lot of space for a lot of artists. While there may be less of us on a large commercially successful level, there’s probably more of us doing it in general, at the “pay your bills and keep moving forward” level. There’s so many good artists making great records that it’s a different type of a golden age.

Can you be immodest for a moment and tell me which of your songs might have staying power and be covered years from now?

I don’t know. I’ll let posterity decide if that happens. We get videos all the time where people are out and they’re hearing some person in a restaurant playing our songs. It’s really cool to see other artists and songwriters giving it a go. I definitely have been surprised by “What Would I Do Without You,” from the Good Light album. It seems to have that sort of staying power. I hear from people that their grandparents love the song, and then their kids love the song. If I could get kids who grew up on my music that came out before they were born and they still like it, that would be a good barometer of the staying power of the songs themselves. I’m starting to see that a little bit, and I hope that continues.

Are you still in the whiskey business?

I am. Just a very small partner on a thing called Sweetens Cove Tennessee Bourbon. It’s been a fun endeavor for sure. My manager and I both are collectors of bourbons and various whiskeys. When I was living in Scotland in college, I started drinking scotch. I was a history major, so I always fall in love with the backstory of whatever thing I’m consuming. Whiskey is great for that because every brand’s got a good mythology story, a good origin story or creation story. It’s a fun thing to be a part of.

You’ve done some scattered dates since the coronavirus hit, but the February–March You and Me tour with Ellie is your first full-fledged tour since then. How do you feel about it?

It’s great. You don’t realize how much you love something until it’s taken away from you. We’re definitely going to play some new songs on the tour. We’ve been writing. I like to test new stuff out, tease it out a little bit.

Did you write a lot of songs while you couldn’t do many shows?

Maybe 40 and growing. I’m not proud of all of them. Half of them are worth taking into the studio to see what happens.

So you’ll throw out 20 songs?

Usually, I cannibalize them. I take the stuff I like out of them and start something new.

Do you have any particular ambitions for your music going forward? Is there somewhere you want to go that’s different than what you’re doing now?

I’m writing more than I’ve written in a long time. COVID’s been good for my writing in the last eight months at least. I’d like to probably increase the pace at which I release music, but maybe decrease the pace at which I tour. I’d love to get to that point where instead of every tour having to be connected to a new record, you just tour on and off all the time and put out music whenever it’s ready.

You’ve done collaborations with The Lone Bellow, Lori McKenna and Natalie Hemby. Do you see more of this cross-pollination in the future?

I did this thing with Johnnyswim. We did a collaborative EP (Goodbye Road). I have aspirations of doing more and more of that with other artists. I’ve been doing lots of co-writing. The older I get, the more freedom I feel to collaborate and hold my own creative rudder less tightly and see what happens. I think there’s some of that on the horizon as well. That’s also what’s been fun about working with Ellie, to do things differently, try to stretch different muscles creatively and challenge yourself in different ways and share the spotlight. That’s been a big thing for me.


Photo Credit: Ashtin Paige

WATCH: Robin and Linda Williams, “Old Lovers Waltz”

Artist: Robin and Linda Williams
Hometown: Staunton, Virginia
Song: “Old Lovers Waltz”
Album: A Better Day A-Coming
Label: Oakenwold Recordings

In Their Words: “‘Old Lovers Waltz’ is one of our favorite songs off the A Better Day A-Coming release. It has personal meaning to the two of us, and we think Deep Structure Productions did an excellent job of producing the video. The ‘old Robin and Linda/young Robin and Linda’ idea, based around the banjo painting, was their vision, and they did a great job making the concept of a lifetime partnership come to life in four minutes. Their video captured the essence of our song. We wrote this after being married for 46 years. It’s not essential to be married that long to write such a song. You might be able to do it after only 30 or 35 years. ‘When you’re gliding with ease and stepping light/Then the Old Lovers Waltz, you are doing it right.'” — Robin and Linda Williams


Photo Credit: Jahna A Parker

WATCH: Meg McRee, Adam Chaffins, Brit Taylor, Ben Chapman, “Gone as It Gets”

Artists: Meg McRee, Adam Chaffins, Brit Taylor, Ben Chapman
Hometowns: Sugar Hill, Ga. (McRee); Louisa, Ky. (Chaffins); Knotts Co., Ky. (Taylor); Lafayette, Ga. (Chapman)
Song: “Gone as It Gets”
Release date: January 12, 2022

In Their Words: “I can hear each and every one of us in it which can be very hard to accomplish when writing a song with four people. We all listened back the next day and felt that we had created something pretty special.” — Meg McRee

“Sometimes in songwriting you can tell a good song is about to come just by the company in the room. Once the groove got started when we all sat down together this song just appeared, then we got together to record it and and the same thing happened and the track came to life.” — Adam Chaffins

“‘Gone as It Gets’ is a melodic journey taken by four friends who got together just to make music. There was no hidden agenda — just a shared commitment to enjoying each other’s company and talents while having a good time and making good music. ‘Gone as It Gets’ is confirmation that when the music business becomes more music and less business, the really good stuff happens.” — Brit Taylor

“We found that when you put four songwriters in a room with homemade cornbread, whiskey, and a mutual respect for the ones that came before, you can end up with something pretty special. Organic, classic, timeless. We’re releasing this song in honor of the first Peach Jam of the year with Adam Chaffins and Brit Taylor as the special guests. I started doing my Peach Jam show in 2021 with the intention of bringing friends and music folk together to turn on, tune in, and drop out. This year I’ll be hosting my Peach Jam residency at The Basement in Nashville on the second Wednesday of every month for all of 2022. Can’t think of a better way to kick it off.” — Ben Chapman


Photo Credit: Fernando Garcia

WATCH: Kieran Kane & Rayna Gellert, “Please Help Me, I’m Falling”

Artist: Kieran Kane & Rayna Gellert
Hometown: East Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “Please Help Me, I’m Falling”
Album: The Flowers That Bloom in Spring
Release Date: February 11, 2022
Label: Dead Reckoning Records

In Their Words: “Our mellow take on this classic country song (written by Don Robertson & Hal Blair, and probably best known from Hank Locklin) evolved gradually, as it’s one we kept returning to over and over again in recent years. This song — like the rest of the album — was recorded live, sitting across from each other in a bunkhouse in the Adirondacks. It has become our favorite room to record in. But since there’s no soundproofing, capturing something as quiet as this track means waiting for the moment after all the noises of daytime have died down, but before the nighttime insects get too cranky. The quiet intimacy of the setting and the song are echoed by Lucas Kane’s thoughtful video treatment.” — Kieran Kane & Rayna Gellert


Photo credit: Kay Francis

WATCH: Sad Daddy, “Arkansas Bound”

Artist: Sad Daddy
Hometown: Central Arkansas (Joe Sundell, Brian Martin); outside of Austin, Texas (Melissa Carper, Rebecca Patek)
Song: “Arkansas Bound”
Album: Way Up in the Hills
Release Date: January 28, 2022

In Their Words: “‘Arkansas Bound’ was inspired by living in the big city and longing to go back to a slower pace of life in the country, surrounded by nature. I was making a lot of trips from Austin, Texas, back to Arkansas at the time and once I would hit those winding country roads in the Ozark Mountains, a sense of relief would come over me. I’ve been drawn to cities to find the inspiration of various music communities but I really have never loved living in a city. I have spent a good deal of time in and around Eureka Springs, Arkansas, which is a tiny town in Northwest Arkansas, in the Ozarks. There is something about the country there that keeps drawing me back in.

“I currently live on a farm about 40 minutes east of Austin, so I’m combining the best of both worlds. There is a great music community here in Austin and a lot of fun dance halls and places to play. And I do love the Texas country, too. But even now, when I hit the road for Arkansas, something in me just relaxes and I feel like I’m going home. I think this song felt like an appropriate opener for Way Up in the Hills as Arkansas is home for most of Sad Daddy, and we decided this album would be about going back to the country, seeking that peace you find from being in nature. I feel like ‘Arkansas Bound’ is kind of a call-to-the-country anthem.

“The video was filmed in Greers Ferry, Arkansas, on the boat dock at Brian’s cabin. We reunited at the cabin to make some videos and he had a couple friends visiting. Besides the band, the video features fisherman Madewell and dogs Georgia Peach and Rooster. Sadly, Rooster has passed away since we filmed.” — Melissa Carper, Sad Daddy


Photo Credit: Melissa Brawner