Growing Up in Nashville With Immigrant Parents, Gabe Lee Finds His Own Road

In many ways, singer-songwriter Gabe Lee is the consummate Nashville native. A folkophile raised around church music and enthralled by the work of everyone from John Prine to Nikki Lane, he trained as a concert pianist and tended bar for the thirsty tourists, then went on to create a righteously retro brand full of tasty twang and true-to-life lyricism.

Think of that as his Nashville-based, Americana-artist starter pack. But as a second-generation American raised by Taiwanese parents, Lee also has a unique point of view on this city of dream chasers … and on its power to mold.

That perspective informs much of his third album, The Hometown Kid, a project that traces the effects of growing up in Nashville but dreaming of what lies out there beyond its borders, only to actually find out. The follow up to 2020’s well-received Honky Tonk Hell, Lee’s new effort arrives after his first taste of success (plus the whirlwind of travel that came with it) and comes with a diverse roots-rock sound informed by his journey. But rather then romanticize being gone, it may ultimately find more meaning in coming home.

Just before The Hometown Kid’s release on October 28, Lee spoke with BGS about his unique Nashville roots, and how coming home was the right call for him.

BGS: The Hometown Kid follows Honky Tonk Hell, and that wound up bringing you some real attention. How were you feeling heading into this new project?

Lee: Well, we’re always chasing, man. … This is our third record, and I guess like a carpenter makes however many chairs before he makes a perfect one, every single time we get back in the studio, every time we write another song, we’re just trying to hone things in.

The Hometown Kid felt very natural to me, kind of telling stories about finding my way home, and images and vignettes that have always inspired me growing up here — which I think has made its way into all of my songs, really. … But especially ‘cause Nashville’s changed so much, we’re really wanting to express my love and my journey being a Nashville native.

Tell me a little bit about that journey. Do you feel like you had the typical Music City childhood?

Absolutely, I think the emotions and the experience on this record are really not particularly unique from anyone else’s, but I’ve been lucky to have been brought up here. Through a web of circumstances that brought my parents to the States in the ‘80s, they finished their education, found their first real career jobs in Nashville, and then found a house in Bellevue, which they now own. We’ve been out there my entire life, so that stability — in this town that is full of folks moving in and moving out constantly — is definitely unique.

I’m inspired by folks who uproot themselves and chase a dream and move to Nashville, pursue music with a guitar and a couple bucks. It takes a lot of guts. But the message here is, we all have felt pain and loneliness and sorrow, and we’ve all felt joy … We’ve all been out there on the road and missed home, and we’ve all been at home and kind of felt like we were missing an opportunity, you know, out in the world. As a traveler now, I feel that all the time.

Those themes you write about are definitely relatable, but you also have an interesting perspective through your Taiwanese heritage. Does that get woven into the songs?

I’ve definitely created my own community here, growing up around the culture of Music City and the lifeblood of music business. I’m very entrenched in that, but with my parents, their story is inspiring to me, too. My parents are a huge part of my music education. My mom’s a pianist. She’s played in the church growing up. She still plays in the church on Sundays. Even if I haven’t gone in years [laughs], church music was a great foundation for my love for music in general.

Plus, think about the language barrier, the culture shock, all those things [my parents dealt with] in coming here. They were chasing a dream, too, like “I’m gonna work hard. Head down. Save money. Have a better life for my kids.” And I’m lucky to be the recipient of that. … They’ve invested in my music ever since I was a kid. I was doing school bands, piano lessons, church choir and all that nerdy stuff. I think I was built for it in a lot of ways.

Why did you start the album off with “Wide Open”? It’s so mellow but feels like it’s about to explode somehow.

I think it was really good summation of my emotions the last couple years. I’ve been a bartender for 10-plus years, since high school almost. And this last summer was the first time I haven’t needed to pick up a shift. I’ve been able to survive on the road, opening for some really great acts and, you know, sleeping in the car at Love’s [laughs]. Just living the glamorous life! … But it’s like, this is what I wanted. This is what I’ve been pushing for. This is what everyone has to experience at some point if they want to level up. “Woke up in a hotel room/Whole place is shut down/But I’m wide open.”

“Over You” has a cool, John Prine-style line – “Take me through the valley/To Williamson County/ Where even the garbage is clean.” What does that mean for non-Nashville listeners?

I used to bartend out in Cool Springs [a retail area in Franklin, Tennessee], and the demographic out there is very different from the demographic in downtown Nashville — where I’ve also bartended [laughs]. It just came to me because of our current national state where it feels like people are on edge, no one feels like they have enough, but people are still fucking raging and partying and enjoying themselves — ‘cause they can. So “where the garbage is clean,” it’s like one man’s garbage is another’s treasure, and that was a way for me to impart that on this heartbreak song. It’s like, just take me somewhere where I don’t feel like such a piece of shit.

The single “Rusty” pairs this heartland rock vibe with a theme of time passing, striking out on your own and trying to figure yourself out. What have you learned by leaving home?

It starts with “All the roads around here will get you where you’re going/All the roads around here will slow you down some day.” It’s just one of those things every person can understand, a great metaphor for everything we face constantly. It’s like, you could sit there like everybody else and wait your turn in line, or you could forge your own path — and then you’re responsible for the consequences. I guess it’s the story of The Hometown Kid, from top to bottom. And not only is the road a very real place for travelers, or touring musicians. I mean, everyone is on their own road in so many ways.

Really, “Rusty” was about a crossroads in my life where my relationships were not great. I had kind of separated myself one summer and I was working an odd job out in East Tennessee, and I just realized, I really don’t want to go home. I really did not feel like I belonged. It was the same going to college in Indiana instead of Belmont [on a piano scholarship]. Leaving home and pursuing music on my own terms literally changed the course of my life. But then ultimately, coming back to Nashville has always been the right decision.


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WATCH: Abraham Alexander, “Heart of Gold”

Artist: Abraham Alexander
Hometown: Fort Worth, Texas
Song: “Heart of Gold”
Release Date: November 8, 2022
Label: Dualtone Records

In Their Words: “‘Heart of Gold’ is a cry out to my younger self to stay strong and to survive the moment as I’m blacking out from an abusive beating. As a child I used to be so ashamed of my scars but I look at them as purification by fire. They are a source of pride and a reminder that gold is purified by fire. Grant [Claire, the video’s director] is so intuitively empathic, a really tender soul who understood the emotions and importance of this song for me. This collaboration turned into something intimate and magical. The idea was to capture three different performances to emulate the mind, body and soul, as well as the three ages of man — infancy, childhood and old age.

“This song means so much to me because it is the first song I ever wrote. It is sort of like an anchor for me and working on this song was such a breath of fresh air because I got to work alongside some of my favorite collaborators. I loved producing it alongside Matt Pence who is a wonderful human being and producer and beyond that, he is a great listener. I long for people who are great listeners. There have been so many different demo versions of this song and this one feels the purest and I’m excited for people to hear a glimpse of the album. This is a thank you to fans that have been following me from the beginning because they know this song and yet it hasn’t been accessible for them to listen to anywhere.” — Abraham Alexander


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WATCH: Patty Loveless, Chris Stapleton Sing “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive”

Patty Loveless reminded us why she’s still a hero to traditional country and bluegrass fans during a rare performance with Chris Stapleton at the CMA Awards on Wednesday night. Loveless included the poignant composition on her landmark 2001 album, Mountain Soul, an acclaimed record that still holds up. Look closer and you’ll see that Darrell Scott, who wrote the song, is playing Dobro on this performance, along with Deanie Richardson on fiddle and Morgane Stapleton on harmony.

Released at the height of the O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack’s popularity, Loveless pressed pause on her commercial country career for a set of songs featuring Jon Randall, Travis Tritt, and an exceptional group of studio musicians. (Seriously, look at this personnel list.) The emotional centerpiece of the project may be “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive,” which feels almost like it was written for Loveless, whose late father worked in the coal mines.

Stapleton deservedly won the CMA Award for Male Vocalist during the show, but his greatest accomplishment of the night may be been placing a six-minute Appalachian ballad in the middle of a mainstream country show, not to mention inviting Loveless back into the spotlight. She’s no stranger to the CMA Awards, of course, having won back-to-back Female Vocalist trophies in 1995 and 1996, in addition to Album of the Year honors for 1994’s When Fallen Angels Fly. She later collected another one for 1997’s “You Don’t Seem to Miss Me,” which she recorded with one of her own heroes, George Jones. It’s a touching moment to now see Stapleton paying homage to an artist who has made her own mark on country music throughout the decades. And it goes without saying that any time that Patty Loveless wants to make another album, we’re here for it.

Stapleton and Loveless first sang the song together at the Kentucky Rising benefit concert in Lexington on October 11, raising funds for relief and recovery following the devastating floods in Eastern Kentucky this past summer. The one-night-only event also featured performances from Kentuckians Tyler Childers, Dwight Yoakam, Ricky Skaggs, and S.G. Goodman. You can still donate to the Kentucky Rising Fund here.

Take a look at Patty Loveless and Chris Stapleton singing “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive” below.

BGS 5+5: Mali Obomsawin

Artist: Mali Obomsawin
Hometown: Farmington, Maine
Latest album: Sweet Tooth
Personal nicknames: Boms

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

Every time I play my country-punk song “White People” it seems to change the energy in the room a bit. A lot of uncomfortable laughter, a lot of lulu’ing from Native audiences, and a lot of anxious shuffling from a certain generation of white folk. One of my favorite memories of being on stage was playing this for the first time with my band Taco Butt (c*nt-punk duo with Isa Burke). The reactions were priceless, and I wasn’t quite sure how the lyrics would hit. It was like the first time trying out a new comedy routine… or like jumping off a big rock into the water. Your heart stops a little before you land.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I spend a lot of time running in the woods or on trails by the rivers. This is where I can dissociate in a healthy way and you also come out of it with runner’s high. It’s how I was able to get through years of non-stop touring (I got pretty close to losing my mind but I think running kept me from the ledge) and I have actually thought of songs while running before! But mostly it’s just my meditation that regulates my ability to be present in all other parts of my life.

What has been the best advice you’ve received in your career so far?

Don’t rationalize anything that feels wrong. And don’t let the label own your masters.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

Definitely literature. I’m always reading, pulling lyrics from books and poetry. This new album is somewhat of an exception because it’s either in Abenaki or it’s instrumental, but usually I read novels with a pen in my hand and underline poignant phrases or words with a good mouthfeel, haha. I use those for my songwriting. I also have some form of synesthesia and I think I used that a lot on this record. Knowing the images associated with some of the stories on Sweet Tooth, I tried to give the compositions “colors” and shapes that matched. For instance “Pedegwajois” is set in the middle of so-called Lake Champlain in a thunderstorm. So I tried to give the melody some blue, green, and yellow. When I hear the composition played out, I can see that scene.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

I would like to eat pickles with Mildred Bailey.


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The Show On The Road – Trampled by Turtles

This week, we call into Minnesota to talk to frontman and lead-songwriter Dave Simonett of the innovative jamgrass pioneers Trampled by Turtles.

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Celebrating a new record, Alpenglow, produced by Jeff Tweedy of Wilco, the six-piece band has gone from storming shaggy local bars in Duluth to playing their famously fast roots-n-roll in the biggest venues and festivals in the world.

Twenty years in, Simonett is keeping it fresh by letting masters like Tweedy bring his punky minor chord sensibility to the band’s warm acoustic camaraderie (bassist Tim Saxhaug, banjo player Dave Carroll, mandolinist Erik Berry, fiddle player Ryan Young, and cellist Eamonn McLain round out the group) with standout songs like “Starting Over” not shying away from the expectations that come from recognition and giving your art to the world — with the brightness of the banjo always leading the way.


Editor’s note: Trampled by Turtles is the BGS Artist of the Month for November. Check out our Essential Trampled by Turtles playlist and keep an eye out for more exclusive interviews and content throughout the month.

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Basic Folk – Patrick Haggerty of Lavender Country

A note: our guest on this episode, Patrick Haggerty of Lavender Country, passed away on October 31 at the age of 78, several weeks after he’d had a stroke. This episode was produced before his death. We are grateful to be able to share this conversation with Patrick and we hope our listeners will take some time to learn about Patrick’s remarkable life, especially his pro-LGBTQ+ and pro-working class activism. We are sending love to his many fans, friends, and especially his family at this difficult time.

Patrick Haggerty, the frontperson of Lavender Country, is considered a legend of queer country music. He made history when he released the first openly gay country album in 1973. In a lot of ways, Nashville still isn’t ready for queer folks to be our outspoken selves, but in 1973 it was almost unthinkable. Patrick walked into the cultural storm consciously, knowing that his story needed to be told even though few were ready to hear it.

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After being shunned from the music industry, Patrick continued to do important work in the communities he cared about. He worked for decades as a social worker, community organizer, gay rights activist, and anti-racism activist. He got married and raised children. Then, a wild twist of internet fate took place. One of Lavender Country’s songs got posted to YouTube and Patrick found himself signed to a record label, and creating his second album. He re-emerged into a world that was more gay-friendly, and to a new legion of fans who had found his music on the internet.

It was a special honor to speak with Patrick and his husband, JB, after spending time on the road with them this past spring during the “Roundup” queer country tour. Their steadfast relationship, humor, activism, and dedication to building a better world have taught me so much about what it means to make a life in music as a queer person. We at Basic Folk are honored to share this conversation with you.

Content Warning: this episode contains mentions of self-harm, suicide, and homophobia.


Editor’s Note: Basic Folk is currently running their annual fall fundraiser! Visit basicfolk.com/donate for a message from hosts Cindy Howes and Lizzie No, and to support this listener-funded podcast.

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Margo Price Covers the Billy Joe Shaver Song That Might Have Saved Her Life

It’s been just over two years ago that a forefather of outlaw country passed away. The visionary artist and songwriter Billy Joe Shaver helped create the outlaw sound that inspired other greats like Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson. A Texan by birth, Shaver arrived in Nashville in 1965, and after years of struggling for recognition, he helped pen nearly all of Waylon Jennings’ Honky Tonk Heroes, the 1973 record that many consider the first Outlaw Country album. To honor his amazing body of work and his contributions to the canon of classic country songs, New West Records together with Pedernales Records have put together a new tribute album, Live Forever: A Tribute to Billy Joe Shaver.

Set for a November 11 release, the collection features some of the greatest voices in country music paying homage to Shaver’s songs. The artists represented include Miranda Lambert, Nathaniel Rateliff, George Strait, Willie Nelson, Lucinda Williams, and Margo Price among many others. Accompanied by Joshua Hedley, Price performs “Ragged Old Truck,” a memorable waltz that is masterfully recreated to sound as if the recording is as old as the song itself.

Price holds this particular Shaver song in very high regard, saying, “I first met Billy in a dusty parking lot outside of Luck, Texas. I was drinking straight out of a bottle of Wild Turkey and he asked me for a pull. We talked for a long time about his songs. I told him my favorites were ‘Black Rose’ and ‘Ragged Old Truck’ and I said, that second one might have saved my life. I was in a deep depression when I first heard it and that song pulled me out. He put his hand, minus a few fingers, on my shoulder and said, ‘Me too darlin, me too.’”

Listen to Margo Price and Joshua Hedley’s beautiful take on “Ragged Old Truck” below.


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WATCH: Michelle Rivers, “Gone”

Artist: Michelle Rivers
Hometown: Eureka, Montana
Song: “Gone”
Album: Chasing Somewhere
Release Date: July 8, 2022

In Their Words: “This song was inspired by the sound of the train that rolls by my parents’ home in northwest Montana. I was strumming my guitar to match the rhythm of the train and I just started singing this story. It was unlike anything I had written before. It wasn’t my story, yet it felt very real and very personal to me. I was singing about this girl’s life spiraling out of control, with alcoholism playing a key role in that. I didn’t sit down with the intention of writing a song about this topic, but I have watched people I love wander down the dark path of addiction and have seen that there is often some element of emotional pain tied to it. My hope in writing this song is that it brings a sense of humanity to the struggle and that we recognize there is so much more to substance abuse than what we see on the surface.” — Michelle Rivers


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WATCH: Golden Shoals, “Ain’t No New Orleans”

Artist: Golden Shoals
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “Ain’t No New Orleans”
Album: Treading Water/Ain’t No New Orleans (Single)
Release Date: November 4, 2022

In Their Words: “I think New Orleans is the most important city in the US. It’s the birthplace of jazz, essential to the blues, and is one of the few places where chaos and spontaneity still thrive. It’s below (rising) sea level, and constantly sinking because of the way it was built by the first colonizers and those who came after. For me it’s a place where I get pushed out of my comfort zone, and learn about life, humanity, and American music. I don’t think the people in power are very concerned with protecting a place like this, or the people in it (the response to Katrina point to that fact). I tried to express all of this in four verses and an anthemic chorus. Hopefully the video, made up entirely of public domain clips from archive.org, reinforces these points. Hopefully things will change before the next Katrina happens.” — Mark Kilianksi, Golden Shoals


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LISTEN: Jack Schneider, “Farewell Carolina”

Artist: Jack Schneider
Hometown: New York City
Song: “Farewell Carolina”
Album: Best Be on My Way
Release Date: November 11, 2022

In Their Words: “Wes Langlois and I wrote ‘Farewell Carolina’ the week before the initial recording session. The melody came first, and the story formed around it. As we wrote, the figure of Carolina emerged: a symbol for the unstoppable motion of life, of inevitable new beginnings and difficult goodbyes. Vince [Gill] heard this song in its infancy and suggested a few revisions, and when we got to the studio, it was he that suggested the song be one to try putting to tape. He pulled out his guitar — a 1930 Martin OM45, no less — and laid out the foundation. By the end of the first take, it was clear that my role was to tell the story, not to perform it, so I set down my guitar. Between Vince, David Rawlings, Stuart Duncan, and Dennis Crouch, the image of Carolina — place, person, and memory — was brought to life.” — Jack Schneider


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