BGS 5+5: Skin & Bones

Artist: Skin & Bones
Hometown: Moorpark, California; Greensboro, North Carolina
Latest Album: Shadowboxing
Personal Nickname: Sweet mesquite Pete and the Carolina Heat

(Answers from singer/guitarist Taylor Borsuk)

What was the first moment you knew that you wanted to be a musician?

I was living with my girlfriend in Dresden, Germany, in winter. I was 19 years old and was addicted to writing songs. I hardly knew anyone there and couldn’t really speak much of the language. The isolation I experienced was really profound. It provided me with a very rare opportunity to consider what I wanted out of life. I made the decision then to put all my efforts into songs.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I tend to do this in most of my songs; however I don’t consider it hiding. I write about my own personal experiences and others around me, but at the same time I want the listener to be able to relate to the songs and stories in their own unique way. I’ve used “you” instead of “me” in an attempt to bridge that gap in the hopes that the song feels as if it could be about anyone. In all honesty, what the songs means to me doesn’t matter that much. I’m more interested in what it means to someone else.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

We were performing at The Deer Lodge in Ojai, California. I guess word had gotten around about our music and when we arrived the place was packed. People were singing along to the songs and it was one of those first ‘wow’ moments we experienced as a band. Great fun and we made a lot of new friends.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

This is such a toughie. I pull from a myriad of influences, but I think the artist that has had the biggest impact on me is Jackson Browne. As a child his music was always playing in my home and subconsciously it laid the foundation for my appreciation of songwriting. His work is timeless. It will be just as relevant in a hundred years from now as it was when he first wrote it. When I heard that he wrote the song “These Days” at age 16 it set the bar for me.

What is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

Mexican food paired with the Mariachi radio station in a hole in the wall restaurant and I am a happy camper. Bring on the horns.


Photo courtesy of Skin & Bones

BGS 5+5: Wild Rivers

Artist: Wild Rivers
Hometown: Toronto, Canada
Latest album: Eighty-Eight
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Wolf Island, Chancey Shoegaze (Andrew’s guitar pedal obsessed alias), Cortez the Killer (Khalid’s wannabe cowboy persona)

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

The primary influences that inform our music are really our musical heroes. Many of the songs I write come out of listening to some piece of music, getting inspired by one part of it and examining and working around that. Film and TV are other inspirations that I think find their way into the songs. I’m intrigued by movies and TV that examine a specific character. There are so many movies right now that do an amazing job of showcasing a complex, flawed character, while allowing the audience to empathize with them. I think a lot of songwriting is doing just that, telling a story while unapologetically showing both the good and ugly sides of it. — Khalid Yassein

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

There have been many tough times writing songs. Not so much in an emotional sense, often the most difficult songs emotionally songs are the easiest for me to write. A lot of times in the last few years we’ve written songs where one part of it is really strong, so writing the rest of it to live up to that standard can be exceptionally hard. I’ve got some songs that have been in the works for a few years now, and you can absolutely hit a wall. It can be a lot of frustration, and sometimes 90% [of your time] can be spent toiling and thinking, and then in the span of a few minutes it suddenly becomes perfectly clear what you have to say. It’s about persistence and trying not to put too much pressure on what should be an organic experience. — KY

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

We start every show with an off-stage huddle. We get into a circle, and whoever is feeling the most energetic will say a few words to pump us up. Then we count to 3, bonk our heads together and say “team!” It sounds pretty ridiculous, but it really gets us focused and in tune with one another. We haven’t developed many studio rituals yet, other than consuming lots of coffee and making Khal drink some whiskey when we want him to sound more raspy. — Andrew Oliver

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Living in Toronto, we experience the extremes of each season. From harsh winters to hot summers, and the beauty of mild springs and falls, it’s easy to be inspired by the changing landscape. Having distinct seasons also allows for memories to be tied to a specific time of year. I think this definitely informs my songwriting, as it creates a sort of nostalgia associated with each season. I know I definitely write more sad songs in the winter when I’m longing for a little sun. — Devan Glover

Getting away to spend time outside of the city is something we all love to do. Clearing your mind by spending time in nature can be very therapeutic, and always helps to put me in a creative headspace, so it probably indirectly informs a lot of my music and writing. Sometimes when I’m feeling stuck creatively, I’ll drive up to my cottage for a change of scene. — KY

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I usually write in first person, but I don’t think I’m fooling anyone with a sneaky pronoun change. If you think switching up “I” and “you” is going to protect yourself you’re probably in the wrong business! Most of our songs are really about us and our lives so we have to accept being vulnerable in a very public way. It can be difficult and scary but I think people can tell if you’re being authentic or if something is contrived. Some of my favourite writers say things in songs that are so raw and unashamed, and it’s incredible. Those are the lines that stick with you forever, they make you feel something. — KY


Photo credit: Laura Partain

BGS 5+5: Eric Erdman

Artist: Eric Erdman 
Hometown: Mobile, Alabama 
Latest Album: It’s Not Like You Don’t Know Me 
Personal Nicknames (or Rejected Band Names): the Birdman

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

When I was 3 years old I was the ring bearer for my cousin’s wedding. We got through the ceremony without too much distraction from my mischievous fidgeting, but then came the reception. I had behaved myself for longer than tolerable and beside that, in this part of the evening’s events, mischievous fidgeting seemed encouraged. I was in my element. I was so much more comfortable at the party than I was in the rigid church service, that when the band took a break, I didn’t see it as a chance to relax. Instead I saw it as a sign that possibly these hard-working musicians had tired and they needed assistance keeping the crowd going. So I did what I felt I needed to. I crawled onto the stage and tried to grab the mic.

Before my mother could come divert me, the band saw me on stage and seized the opportunity. They returned to the stage and agreed to back me up. My repertoire at that time wasn’t vast. I knew “Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah” and the theme song to The Dukes of Hazzard. I can’t pretend that I had enough experience at the time to make an informed opinion on how well I performed, but I know for a fact the band and I had garnered the attention of every person in that room, including the flower girl. And that was enough for music to set its hook in me. I’ve been writing and performing ever since. And every night I’m still as shocked and fueled by the connection with the audience as that 3-year-old kid was.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

I’ve heard it said repeatedly that songs are like children to songwriters. And I have to agree with that. But since we are leaning on that metaphor I’d like to remind you that sometimes the birthing process requires 20-hour labor or C-sections. One such arduous delivery occurred for me while writing a song for a multimedia art project entitled TRIO. The way TRIO works is, a visual artist and a songwriter are paired with an author. The visual artist and the songwriter both create a piece, in their respective medium, inspired by the author’s book, and that forms one iteration of a TRIO. A collection of many of these TRIO pieces have been put together in a traveling exhibit.

The book I was given was Summer Lightning by Judith Richards. The fact that I absolutely loved the book should have made it an easy write. It didn’t. I’m not really sure why that was. I suspect it had something to do with the fact that the author is a dear friend of mine and I would be crushed if the song I wrote for such an exemplary human was subpar. If I write a song about my personal experiences and it falls short either for me or any critic, I can deal with that and choose to edit or move on. But that would simply be unacceptable for a song destined for Judith.

So I tortured myself for days and days. The deadline loomed. I tortured myself some more then scrapped every line. Then I got into a downward spiral built from the lack of creativity and fueled by fatigue. I had stayed up for the vast majority of three days and the song felt like it was getting worse. It was one of the few times I felt true panic while writing. How could something that is as natural and customary for me suddenly be so foreign and produce such slop?

Luckily JUST in the nick of time it all started to click and I pulled the song out of the nose dive. It ended up being a song I’m very proud of and one I play at most every show. Judith has told me she likes the song too. WHEW!!!

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I spend much of my time near the water or on the water. My hometown (Mobile, Alabama) is a port city. We grew up on the bay and in the rivers. Virtually all of our activities involved that water in some way. We threw cast nets and swam and sailed for countless hours. Interestingly enough I only have a handful of songs that mention water specifically.

However I do feel like my connection to the water impacts my writing all the time. I do not believe I would write the same at all if I were too far removed from a large body of water for an extended period of time. There is something about the smell of the air and the sounds of the wind coming off the water that alters my general state of mind. Don’t get me wrong, I love adventures in the desert, too, but if I stay there too long, I believe my gills would dry out.

Since food and music go so well together, what would be your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

I’m from the birthplace of Mardi Gras, namely Mobile, Alabama. So I consider music, eating and bending the rules my birthrights. So I have decided to bend the rules and instead of one meal/musician pairing I think it should be a three-course meal of musician/food pairings.

Appetizer: Seafood Gumbo / Wet Willie
I feel that we need to whet our appetites with these Southern classics. Both the roux and Wet Willie are essential to our slowly-stirred, humid, earthy heritage.

Entree: Shrimp and Grits / the Mulligan Brothers
This is a decidedly Gulf Coast pairing. This hearty flavorful combo is something you can dig your teeth into and instantly know you’ve experienced the best the South has to offer.

Dessert: Bread Pudding / Kristy Lee
And let’s top it off with decadence and a voice so soulfully sweet it’s liable to give us all cavities.

I feel like that’s a meal where the likelihood of leftovers is slim to none.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

It is interesting that you’d ask this question because I only recently took note of this transition in my writing. It had surely occurred, I just hadn’t consciously taken note until recently. I have been writing songs a vast majority of my life and I believe without a doubt truth makes for a better song. So since I started writing I’ve always held truth as the target of my songwriting.

But recently I realized that up until my latest album, It’s Not Like You Don’t Know Me, I have had a tendency to disguise the more personal truths or emotionally raw truths in my writing. Previously, if a topic started to cut too deeply personally it was likely destined to be dressed up as “what Character X feels” in a third-person narrative as opposed to “this is how I feel” in an expressive declaration. I’m not sure if this was a defense mechanism from my subconscious or not but it was there nonetheless.

The songs on It’s Not Like You Don’t Know Me are so emotional and personal that I had no other choice but to write “I,” “I,” “I,” as opposed to “he,” “she,” “they.” I just don’t believe they would’ve rung true if I hid. So I didn’t. Of course these aren’t the only songs I’ve written from the first-person perspective, but these are the most personal and emotional songs I’ve ever dared to approach so head on.

So while I will surely revisit the third-person point of view as I continue making songs, the writing of the songs on “It’s Not Like You Don’t Know Me” has made me much more comfortable saying “I”, “I”, “I” and therefore I feel has made me a more balanced writer.


Photo credit: CHPhotovideo.com / EricErdman.com

BGS 5+5: Michael McDermott

Artist: Michael McDermott
Hometown: Chicago, IL
Latest Album: Out From Under
Personal Nicknames: Mickey, Murph, Big Dog

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

Bob Dylan. It all starts and ends with Zimmy. He’s the greatest.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

Cabaret Metro, Chicago, 1996. The building was moving from people jumping when we opened with “Bells.”

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

I meditate. It centers me, and focuses me.

As you travel around the world, what is the overriding sense you get of the people?

I’m in Oslo as I type this, so I think besides language and clothing, it’s that there are beautiful people everywhere; that we have cultivated that beauty in different ways and some people were never allowed to cultivate it, but it’s there; that the land we come from is only the window dressing of that which lies beneath; and that the loudest people in any airport in the world are undoubtedly American.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

No matter what befalls you, no matter how many times they knock you down, in the words of Jimmy V, “Never ever give up.”