What Does Touring in 2023 Look Like for Most Working Music Creators?

If you take recent touring industry revenue reports at face value, business is booming. 2022 was a record-setting year with an estimated $6.28 billion, up 37% from the pre-pandemic year 2019.

When the onion layers start to peel back though, noticeable is that $2.68 billion of that sizeable amount of 2022 touring money was from stadium shows. Also notable is that inflation is much higher than it was 3 years ago, pushing sums to new heights. The lion’s share of the money went to the top-grossing artists, and 2023 is predicted to be similar for those acts.

The data for the rest of the industry is not as robust. We do know that throughout the past few years, artists like Santigold, Belle and Sebastian, Black Pumas, and Animal Collective have opened up to their fans about the professional and personal costs of touring. Last year saw frequent cancellations of shows, tours, and in some cases like with Dr. Dog, the end of touring all together for some acts.

So what does touring in 2023 look like for most working music creators? The short answer is, that the road looks different to everyone. The longer answer takes a look at multiple perspectives. BGS spoke with artists and industry leaders to learn about the issues and potential solutions facing roots artists on the road this year.

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For the past two decades before the pandemic, live music was viewed as a sort of revenue redemption for music creators in light of the fact that the bottom fell out of the record business at the advent of downloadable and streamable music. For many working artists, this was a busy period of consistent touring. Jacob Sharp from the band Mipso shares what has become a common sentiment amongst touring artists, “For our band being on the road was a given. In a better time for touring, there was insatiable opportunity and demand, both where we had a following and where we didn’t. And there was an infrastructure that made sense then. But saying yes always locked us into a lifestyle and a business cycle we felt we couldn’t escape.”

Sharp says in the current touring landscape, “We are a band that has never been happier playing music together but are having frequent conversations about whether to break up due to the economics of the business. We know it has to involve less touring.”

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So what are the main issues negatively impacting the live music industry for roots and independent music creators?

Cost of touring and inflation

No doubt the current state of the economy is affecting the concert business with rising costs for fans and for touring artists. Label Manager of Single Lock Records and touring drummer for Cedric Burnside, Reed Watson, says, “Artists can’t afford it. Hotels are expensive, gas is expensive. Entertainment takes it on the chin when times are tight.”

Sharp puts a fine point on the economic cost versus reward saying, “It costs a lot more to be on the road between travel, flights, vehicles, hotels. Everything is so much more expensive. At the end of the tour we have less money in our pocket.”

Inconsistency of crowds

Before the pandemic, it was much easier to build a tour, a budget, and a future based on somewhat tried and true marketing formulas and audience engagement. During the pandemic, as venues started to open up, many had received pandemic aid to get artists back on stage and to get people in the doors. Not that this was an easy time for artists as they navigated cancellations due to illnesses and the rising costs of touring, but there was some cash to be had, and throngs of artists were out on the road again.

As the pandemic wore on and the aid money thinned, the crowds were not pouring back in as predicted. And even events that sold well didn’t necessarily translate to full houses as audiences were notoriously low day-of-show for many venues. This impacts merchandise sales, food and beverage, and parking for the bands and venues.

Reed Watson believes this continued unpredictability is largely now due to the current economic lay of the land saying, “The reason we are starting to see attendance crater is because money is tight right now. We are in this inflation moment and that is making more of an impact on touring than the pandemic currently.” Crowds are also buying tickets last minute which makes it hard to budget, market, and plan.

 

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Mental and physical health of artists, bands and crew

The stories of starving artists sleeping in vans on the road are romanticized and narrow in their telling of the difficulty level for the bands and crew enduring those hardships. And perhaps are only of remote interest to younger artists willing to risk their safety…and their backs. But for artists who have been touring for many years, traveling in discomfort for low yield and leaving behind their personal lives to do so is no longer an option they are willing to face. Recording artist Caitlin Rose shares, “I don’t want to tour needlessly. We could all tour and feel like crap for the first 10 years of our career, but it’s too tough now.”

Along the same lines, Reed Watson says, “I don’t believe in telling artists the only way they can tour is to sleep in their van. I also don’t believe in shaming artists who hold out until they can afford a hotel room and afford safety.”

Narrowing of live event opportunities for working musicians

In this era when so many independent venues and festivals are being swallowed up by conglomerates or shuttered, we have seen a general narrowing of traditionally viable opportunities for working musicians.

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And now that we’ve identified some of the underlying problems in the current industry, what are some potential solutions arising in 2023?

Creating an open dialogue with the audience

Since the pandemic, artists are seemingly having a more open dialogue with their audience about career and personal challenges than we’ve seen in the past. Reed Watson sees this is an overall plus for the industry saying, “I think it is the way of the world now for artists to be open and honest with fans. Fan bases for the most part are willing to take that ride with them. I think social media in general is very unhealthy. I think the impact on the business is ultimately not great. But seeing artists use it to their advantage and to do something good is great.”

Caitlin Rose says, “I think the complaining has become more productive to try and improve the discussion. Everyone can bitch now and that’s awesome, but people are actually trying to figure it out now. Priorities and guidelines are changing. What makes this worth it? I’m scared to do it again in a way that burns me out. I want to be happy.”

For Sharp and his band Mipso he says, “We want to set some boundaries and have a healthier balance with our working/touring life and our home life. Both financially, that is true for us, but really for our mental health, it will be easier to embrace and become a part of our lives.”

 

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Focusing on alternative revenue streams

Singer-songwriter Tift Merritt gave up touring before the pandemic to grow roots for her then 20-month-old daughter. She shares, “It was a very fraught and scary decision, but it ended up being really empowering for both us and my work. This is a situation that wrecks anxiety on a lot of women, how they are going to continue doing what they are doing. It is often a very lonely situation, and I’m glad that people are talking about it. I feel really proud of what my daughter and I have done and the decisions that we have made. It doesn’t mean I’m not a musician and an artist.”

Though this is not an economic reality for every artist, instead of touring, Merritt’s work has now shifted. “I’m no longer a road-based artist, I’m a project-based artist,” she says. Working on alternative revenue streams, she now focuses on her Substack called Nightcaps, as well as archival, historical, and site-specific music projects.

Stong independent venue coalition in NIVA

The National Independent Venue Association was founded in a moment of dire need during the pandemic to protect vital independent venues throughout the country and hit the ground running with impactful adovcacy work. It has found more raison d’etre in the wake of the emergency. Newly appointed as Executive Director of NIVA, Stephen Parker shared with BGS, “Aside from when venues had to be completely shuttered, running a venue or promoting shows was never harder than it was during 2022. The live music sector was back for some but challenging for all. With every act on the road simultaneously vying for ticket buyers, staffing shortages – both with the artists’ touring teams and the venues and festivals, and the rising costs of everything, the economics of the industry have never been more challenging. In 2023, my hope is that independent venues will continue forging a path toward recovery. While logistical and financial issues may continue to linger, independent venues remain committed to attracting staff, promoting and marketing shows in creative ways, and creating compelling and affordable environments that artists and fans want to show up for. NIVA is focused on helping them make that happen.”

 

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Pressure on conglomerates

Alongside the robust work that NIVA is taking on to protect independent venues, there is worldwide pressure zeroing in on Live Nation and Ticketmaster. In the wake of several public debacles in recent months, there are calls for investigations and legislation to curb the conglomerates’ questionable business tactics that leave both fans and artists with less choices and money.

Touring with less people

In an effort to trim costs, some artists are strategically focusing on more acoustic or solo sets, leaving band and crew behind for some dates. Caitlin Rose is opening up for Old 97’s on tour this year, and is planning on taking a full band on the road for a portion of the time, but will perform as a duo on the West Coast to lower the impact of tour costs.

Watson adds, “Artists are leaving bands behind and touring solo. It used to look like 80% band shows to 20% solo shows but is shifting to the opposite. That is what it will look like moving forward for a little bit until artists are paid more.”

Strategic routing and events

From residencies to regional and weekend tours, to corporate and brand events, artists are attempting to find ways to supplement income, lower costs, and cater to fans. For Mipso in today’s touring reality, Sharp says, “We are touring less and now we say no to many things that the younger band would have been quite happy to do. We see that as self-preservation. Each of these cities we play is a market and it is easy to oversaturate.”

Touring artist Nick Howard owns Bookable with his wife, Katelynn Silver Howard. The company connects artists to nonconventional local live events in Nashville like conferences, brand-sponsored events, and hotel bookings, providing opportunities for artists to make money in their region while not necessarily saturating the market.

Focusing on fan community and engagement

Building a live music career focused on building community and knowing one’s audience well is the focus of touring artists like Nick Howard, who has built a sizable following and touring career in Europe. He says that in the past few years, the saturation has made it more difficult to get people to come out to shows and says, “Social media following no longer translates to ticket sales.” To take out the middlemen and engage directly with his fans, he now rents out venues himself and uses a third-party ticket company. That way, he saves money on agent, ticket, and promoter fees. And by being in close contact with his fans, he says, “You know how big your audience is and work backward.”

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The overview of touring in 2023 is that there is no roadmap. It will be trial and error as the industry rebuilds itself — but the show will go on, as Reed Watson so positively reminds us. “Touring is the one thing that the internet can’t replicate. You cannot replicate getting in a room with live entertainers.”

7 Artists We’re Itching to See at MerleFest

As winter begins to thaw and festival season creeps in with the spring flowers, we find ourselves looking forward to one thing: MerleFest. Held in Wilkesboro, North Carolina, the four-day festival — taking place April 27-30 this time around — hosts the biggest names in bluegrass, old-time, and acoustic music, all while providing lucky attendees with local grub, artisan crafts, midnight jams, and scenic nature walks. While we wish we could catch every single artist on this year’s stacked bill, we’ve highlighted seven acts we just can’t miss.

Transatlantic Sessions Hosted by Jerry Douglas and Aly Bain

BBC’s Transatlantic Sessions are well-known for bringing together some of the globe’s best musicians for unforgettable performances. Jerry Douglas and Aly Bain are hosting the MerleFest installment, with scheduled guests including James Taylor, Sarah Jarosz, John Doyle, and more.

Tift Merritt

Recent Squared Roots subject Tift Merritt will bring songs from her excellent new album, Stitch of the World, to MerleFest, hopefully throwing in some old tunes from her far-reaching catalog of thoughtful, incisive folk songs, too.

Mipso

BGS favorites Mipso just released Coming Down the Mountain, a newgrass/pop-folk album that should appeal to those longing for the days of Nickel Creek. Look for a lively, jam-packed set from the North Carolina natives who will also be hosting the BGS Midnight Jam.

Jim Avett

Jim’s sons, the Avett Brothers (maybe you’ve heard of them?), may be headlining the festival, but don’t miss this opportunity to see where the young barn-burners got their chops: from their also-talented father.

Chris Jones and the Night Drivers

You’d be hard-pressed to find a better live act than Chris Jones and his crack band, the Night Drivers. Look for Jones and company to perform tunes from their new album, Made to Move.

Sierra Hull

Sierra Hull, our Artist of the Month way back in January 2016, is hands-down one of the most talented young musicians around — she’s a virtuosic mandolin player with songwriting chops and a sweetly strong singing voice, to boot. Live, Hull is a force to be reckoned with, so don’t miss this chance to catch her perform.

Chatham County Line

Raleigh bluegrass band Chatham County Line have been at it for nearly two decades now, honing an acoustic sound that blends traditional bluegrass with forward-thinking arrangements. Their 2016 album, Autumn, shows the band at their most adventurous, and their live set likely will, too.

Tickets for MerleFest 2017 are on sale now and may be purchased at MerleFest.org or by calling 800.343.7857. An advance ticket discount runs through April 26, 2017. Gate pricing begins on the first day of the festival.


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Win Tickets to MerleFest from Yep Roc Records (+ Mandolin Orange Video Premiere!)

It’s that time of year again … MerleFest is nigh!

This year, four Yep Roc-ers are headed to Wilkesboro, North Carolina, from April 27-30. Tift Merritt, Mandolin Orange, the Stray Birds, and Chatham County Line will all be at MerleFest 2017, and Yep Roc wants you to be there, too.

One lucky winner will get two VIP passes to the fest, as well as hotel accommodations plus a meet and greet with the Yep Roc artists. It’s an $800 value, so get to it.

Enter to win right here

Then enjoy this Mandolin Orange video while you cross your fingers and knock on wood.

Squared Roots: Tift Merritt on the Fearlessness of Linda Ronstadt

In the world of folk-rock, a few artists reap the lion’s share of mentions, with Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, and Jackson Browne, among them. One of the great voices of the genre, though, is Linda Ronstadt. As a singer and song collector, she is all but unrivaled — a point most of her peers would agree with. Starting in the mid-1960s as a member of the Stone Poneys and, later, as a solo artist, Ronstadt made a name for herself on the marquees of folk clubs and rock arenas, alike, thanks to albums like Hand Sown … Home Grown (which some consider the first alt-country album by a female), Silk Purse, Heart Like a Wheel, and many more. Her artistry recognized no boundaries as she recorded with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra, as part of Trio with Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris, and in Spanish. In 2011, however, she announced her retirement brought on by a battle with Parkinson’s disease.

I don’t have any great, huge proclamations to begin with, except that I adore Linda Ronstadt,” singer/songwriter Tift Merritt says with a laugh. And, really, that’s enough. From her debut album, Bramble Rose, to her latest release, Stitch of the World, Merritt has attempted to follow in the footsteps of her musical heroes — women like Harris and Ronstadt — who have blazed a trail of feminine fearlessness. By pretty much all accounts, she has succeeded — a point most of her peers would agree with.

Are you a student of Linda’s work for your own artistry or just a fan for your own enjoyment?

You know, I wanted to talk about Linda because she’s not singing anymore because she has Parkinson’s, so it’s almost more important to talk about her now because of that. I think what we need to talk about with Linda Ronstadt is that, at the height of the singer/songwriter movement, she was the one headlining stadiums with the Eagles and Elton John. I think it’s really important to talk about a woman doing that. She was bringing all these songwriters she knew and loved, and taking their songs and singing them. She was on the cover of Time magazine. She was a girl next door and a member of the band with a very understated sexuality, but she was also an absolute star and a commercial success. I think we tend to think about women with guitars singing earthy rock ‘n’ roll as coffee shop acts or something that’s going to fall apart in your hands. And Linda Ronstadt was kicking everyone’s ass. [Laughs]

[Laughs] What’s interesting is that there’s a quote of hers from 1999, in which she said, “I always mean to be a singer, not a star.” So, even though she achieved that level, like you said, it wasn’t necessarily her goal.

I think that’s why it’s important to talk about, too. Because she is an artist. I think she had a complicated relationship with her success and how she was viewed, sexually, and all of that. But she achieved success through her art. And I know that I first fell in love with Linda Ronstadt records when I was in my early 20s. In fact, when I made Bramble Rose, I wanted to make a record like [Emmylou Harris’s] Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town or I wanted to make a record like Heart Like a Wheel or Silk Purse or one of the early Bonnie Raitt records. Those first records were so raw and heartfelt and just penetrated your bones and brought tears to your eyes.

I remember that was said in the press release for my first record, and one of my first reviews kind of made fun of me for liking Linda Ronstadt. I thought, “Oh my God. This person doesn’t get it.” For me, all of those women, and Linda Ronstadt, especially … this was in the late ’90s or early 2000s. I sort of came of age in the ’90s. Madonna was on MTV in the ’80s. And I needed some female role modes who were more like me, who had something to say, who were not intent on acting outrageously, but really wanted to be storytellers. And who had a lot to say and who were masters of their art. You can tell from Linda Ronstadt’s discography and her work as a writer and a singer, she’s a student of her craft. But she always manages to look so cool in all the pictures of her! And she was in a band, too! You navigate this world of dudes traveling on the road, and she did that with so much grace.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, in listening to her and reading about her, to me, her fearlessness as a singer …

Uh huh. Absolutely!

both in song choices and vocal delivery. You can hear so much in her voice.

She’s totally fearless. Maybe that’s the source of her power because she’s so powerful, as well. I’ve sung along with those records … I had a break up and I ended up putting on those records to comfort myself and I was right back there. I’ve been singing along to those records for such a long time, and her voice is an unbelievable instrument. Unbelievable. It’s silken and velvet, and also as powerful as steel. And it’s fierce. The effortlessness with which she can belt at the top of her range, then go low … any melody is so lucky to end up in her hands. [Laughs]

[Laughs] What does it take for a singer to do what she did — both in terms of breaking down as many genre barriers as she did and finding her way into songs she didn’t write, but might as well have? They sounded like they were fully coming from her.

Right. They were realized through her. I don’t know her, personally, at all. But my impression is that it’s a combination of open-heartedness and intelligence and that fearlessness where you are singing with your heart on the line. Period.

Yeah. You find your way in and bring everybody along with you.

Mmm-hmm.

The other thing I feel like … her identification as a singer and, later, a producer … she was no less revered and respected just because she wasn’t a songwriter.

No. I know.

Except for with the guy who reviewed your record. [Laughs] Do you think that’s changed at all? These days, is being a songwriter, too, a huge part of the credibility factor?

I don’t know. I think the world has room for so many different types of careers. I come at this as a writer. But music is such a powerful thing, and to be able to inhabit that … music is a physical and social medium. To be open enough to let that run through you, it’s really an awesome thing.

I took some time off from touring and I missed that. It’s such a joyful letting go, even if it’s a sad song. And I think that’s what you hear when you listen to Linda Ronstadt. So much power coming through these tiny muscles in your neck. They’re so fragile. They’re the size of a dime. There’s an electric current that seems to jump out of her. Like a river of feeling coming out. I think it’s important to talk about, that music is not about a canvas on a wall. It’s not about words on a page. It is a physical, living, breathing type of media. And to be able to do that seamlessly … I love watching and hearing people who have that gift. And it is a gift.

That’s a great ending, right there.

Well, we just have to mention that “Long Long Time” and “Blue Bayou” are two of the greatest performances of great songs. Ever. [Laughs] That is all.


Tift Merritt photo courtesy of the artist. Linda Ronstadt photo courtesy of Carl Lender.

Seven Acts We Wanna Catch at Folk Alliance

Festival season doesn’t truly kick off until Spring, but every year, we’re treated to a musical oasis smack in the middle of our Winter festival drought: Folk Alliance International. From February 15-19, some of the world’s best and brightest folk and roots musicians will descend upon Kansas City, Missouri, for panels, showcases, and (fingers crossed) some serious jamming. The theme of this year’s festival is “Forbidden Folk: Celebrating Activism in Art” which, given our current predicament with President Agent Orange (thanks, A Tribe Called Quest!), is about as timely a theme as one could hope for. 

With so much amazing talent on display throughout the course of the festival, it’s no easy task to decide just who to check out. If you’re still putting your schedule together, though, allow us to do some of the heavy lifting for you. Check out some of the official showcase artists we’re most excited to see at Folk Alliance:

Cory Branan

Mississippi-born songwriter Cory Branan counts Jason Isbell as a fan and, well, that should be enough for you to stop reading and start listening. If you need a little more convincing, though, Branan seamlessly blends Americana inspiration with DIY punk ethos for a raw, singular sound you’d be hard-pressed to find elsewhere. Look for him to play new tunes from his forthcoming album, Adios.

Gaby Moreno

Guatemalan songwriter and musician Gaby Moreno writes smoky soul tunes reminiscent of Amy Winehouse. The Grammy-winning artist has toured with Ani DiFranco and the Milk Carton Kids, and just released a new album, Illusion.

Korby Lenker

Nashville songwriter, musician, and author Korby Lenker approaches lyric-writing like a novelist (he does, after all, have a song called “Book Nerd”). He has a book of short stories called Medium Hero out now and tours the country playing house shows and festivals, alike.

Marquise Knox

St. Louis’s Marquise Knox is one of the most exciting young blues artists to come up in recent years. The 25-year-old guitarist/singer got a good deal of his musical chops from his family, particularly his grandmother. He’s shared the stage with legends like B.B. King and Pinetop Perkins.

Ramy Essam

Ramy Essam gained worldwide notoreity in 2011 when he released “Irhal,” a song that became an anthem for protestors against Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak. Despite being captured and tortured for speaking out against Mubarak’s regime, Essam has continued to speak out and release music. He currently has a temporary residence permit that allows him asylum in Sweden, where he studies and writes songs.

Robbie Fulks

Robbie FulksUpland Stories was one of 2016’s best — and most underrated — albums. On the album, Fulks turns a compassionate eye to underdogs and underbellies, telling the kinds of decidedly American stories that otherwise wouldn’t get told. It earned Fulks two Grammy nominations at this year’s ceremony.

Tift Merritt

Tift Merritt has long been a favorite of ours at the BGS, and her new album, Stitch of the World, challenged the notion that we couldn’t love her any more than we already did. It’s her most vulnerable work to date and, also, despite some serious subject matter, her most fun. 


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Tift Merritt, ‘Love Soldiers On’

And then, with the scribble of a black pen, the world changed.

Last Friday, President Donald Trump signed away a future for thousands of immigrants and refugees hoping to make America their new home — a future that included a life in this country that, once upon a time, promised them open arms. In that moment — along with the prospect of ticking our clock back years for women’s reproductive rights, equality for our LGBTQ citizens, and progress in climate change, not to mention efforts to “clean up” the inner cities — life as usual felt almost impossible. And, for me, that means music: There’s not a moment of my daily being that doesn’t include a soundtrack, from wake to work to the minutes of pseudo-consciousness before I drift off to sleep. But Friday, I felt numb. It seemed nothing would match the mood of the morning. No morose melodies helped, no upbeat pop anthems soothed.

Then I tried “Love Soldiers On,” by Tift Merritt, off her newest LP, Stitch of the World. Many have pointed out the similarities between Merritt and Joni Mitchell, and it’s not wrong — but there’s just enough grit in Merritt’s voice to not gloss over the hard realities of our current world. I’m not one for blind optimism, but “Love Soldiers On” gives that glimmer of hope in a post-Hope era, waltzing delicately with a heart on the mend and a head adorned with a pink knit cap. There is a way to soldier on, but it does feel like a battle. So load up our packs with resistance, poster board, and comfortable shoes, and get ready to fight. Along the way, look for love. And don’t forget the music.

CONVERSATIONS WITH… Tift Merritt

Don’t look now, but Tift Merritt may be Americana’s next indispensible icon. Or something nearly as exalted. Consider the evidence thus far. Her career was still in its infancy when Time magazine and The New Yorker elevated her first album, Bramble Rose, into their top ten, and the Associated Press named it the best debut offering of the year. Her follow up, Tambourine, garnered continued accolades along with a Grammy for Best Country Album of 2004. The following year, she was nominated for three Americana Music Awards and landed a choice spot on tour supporting Elvis Costello.

“I’m knocking on wood as we speak,” the former North Carolina native chuckles, speaking on the phone from her Manhattan home. “Still, I think it’s really important not to live in the world of other people’s opinions of you. It’s never as good as they say and it’s never as bad. (laughs) I just happen to be one of those self-torturing people whose own bar tends to be pretty darn high. And I’m constantly arguing with myself about meeting that bar. I don’t take it for granted and I feel very lucky. Mega millions and commercial success have not arrived, but I think I am very fortunate to have what I have accrued so far in my life.“

And yet, if Merritt’s merits aren’t impressive enough, the fact that she’s able to surround herself with such an exceptional array of musicians throughout her career (Jim James of My Morning Jacket, Bob Dylan guitarist Charlie Sexton, veteran producers George Drakoulias and Ethan Johns, Heartbreakers Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench, to name but a few) also gives nods to her rapid rise in terms of respect and recognition. It was none other than the reigning country queen Emmylou Harris who effusively praised her by declaring, “she carries a promise of great things to come.”

“I remember my mother was there in the studio when Emmylou came in to sing on my first album,” Merritt recalls. “I hadn’t been on the scene for very long, and when Emmylou started singing, I was so surprised. And then when I realized she knew all the words, I was even more surprised. My mother said to me, ‘You don’t get anything for Christmas, because you just got everything you ever wanted.’”

 “I may not have the fanciest career in the world, but I have worked with the best musicians in the world,” Merritt observes.

Fancy or not, Merritt’s accomplished quite a bit over the course of a career that’s only about a decade old. With five solo albums to her credit, two collaborations with others, a pair of live efforts and extensive tours throughout the U.S. and Europe, her life has been wrapped up in a whirlwind of manic activity. She’s currently touting two new albums released in the past six months alone. Traveling Alone, released last October, is what she calls “a reflection of all the traveling I had done, maybe on an emotional landscape rather than in real life.”

Then there’s Night, an inspired collaboration with classical pianist Simone Dinnerstein that retraces classic jazz and pop standards.

“It was a big accident,” Merritt jokes when asked why the two albums appeared practically simultaneously. “The record with Simone is something we’d been working on for years. It was based on a concert we did at Duke University a few years ago. It kind of came together at once. It was kind of crazy. I don’t know if it’s a shift in direction, but it definitely is a different kind of project. We just started a conversation together about songs we just liked and what would be appropriate, and how we could try to have a band together. It was a very interesting conversation. It went so well, that Simone’s label decided they wanted to release it.”

Even so, Merritt admits that she often has misgivings when she initiates a new album. “First starting to write a record is a very terrifying thing, because you think you’re going to make a big mess of it,” she concedes. “But when you’re two or three steps in, it’s one of the loveliest places you can ever find yourself. It’s just so free, and there’s no limit to it, and you don’t know what you’re doing. There’s all this mystery. It’s just a nice time.”

For the time being anyway, Merritt seems pleased with the way things have been going. “I am thrilled, yes,” she insists. “I am one of those people where my mind and my heart are constantly in motion and I need to build something out of all that. I constantly feel like I’m only at the beginning. I always say that I just made it by the skin of my teeth and maybe now I know enough to really give it a go. Part of the artist’s life is getting used to uncertainty and making peace with the fact that your reward is what you do and how you do it. I really enjoy being the hostess at the dinner party of my work.”