Ruth Moody on Canadian Roots Music, Parenthood, and Being a ‘Wanderer’

Ruth Moody has a singular voice, whether she’s joining the soaring three-part harmonies of the Wailin’ Jennys, or carving her own path on her new solo album, Wanderer (released May 17.) The project was almost a decade in the making and finds Moody betting on herself as a songwriter, co-producer, and now-label head for her own Blue Muse Records. The album is parallel to Moody’s own journey at continuing to define herself, with its emphasis on confronting the past and carving away detritus that is no longer needed.

Moody splits her time between Nashville and Vancouver Island. The pull between her sense of place, as well as her identities as artist, wife, and mother, characterize Wanderer. The album was recorded at the legendary Sound Emporium in Nashville and was co-produced with Dan Knobler (Allison Russell, Lake Street Dive) and mixed by Tucker Martine (My Morning Jacket, First Aid Kit, The Decemberists).

As discussed below, Moody waited until the time was right to bring her favorite musicians together for the record: her partner Sam Howard, who plays upright bass and provides backing vocals; her older brother Richard Moody; The Wailin’ Jennys’ touring band member Anthony da Costa (guitars); Jason Burger (drums); Kai Welch (keyboards); Russ Pahl (pedal steel); Adrian Dolan (string arrangements); and duet partner Joey Landreth (on “The Spell of the Lilac Bloom”). Moody’s patient commitment to executing Wanderer the way she wanted to shows in its transcendent arrangements.

In our BGS interview, Moody discusses how she establishes her sense of self amidst the competing demands in her life, the factors that give Canadian roots music their own special quality, and the lessons she’s learned from doing Wanderer exactly the way she intended to.

What do you think it is about Canadian roots music in particular? It does have a different feel than roots music in the States.

Ruth Moody: You know, I’ve been asked this question for so long. It’s a very valid question, because I think there is something, but it’s really hard to have a clear answer. In Canada there’s such a range of geography and music culture. You can’t really pin it to one thing.

I grew up in Winnipeg and the winters are so harsh that I think music and art are one of the things that get people through. It’s something you can do in the winter. I also think that there’s something about the landscape and the winter that creates a certain work ethic because you’re so small against the elements, really. So consciously or subconsciously, that enters into the picture for people. And so I think people tend to work hard and really apply themselves. And when it comes to touring, especially if you’re from Winnipeg, it takes some effort to get to the next town. It’s a six-hour drive before you get to the next major town. So I think right from the start, young musicians know they have to go out in the world to tour and get their music out.

We’re pretty diverse and we’re also influenced by so many different cultures and types of music. So I think there is a very exploratory aspect to Canadian music. And a lot of cross-pollination between genres and scenes. We are very lucky to have government support for the arts and I think that helps artists thrive, obviously, but it also helps to create music communities and bring artists together in collaborative situations.

Well, it’s always good to start an interview out by asking you to speak for your entire country! But Wanderer focuses on the idea of home, and I know you’ve lived many different places. Did I read that you grew up in Australia?

I was born in Australia, and my parents are Australian, but they came back to Canada when I was only a year old. I grew up in Winnipeg, but, as an adult, I’ve moved around a ton and that was what inspired the title track. I’ve been touring for over 25 years at this point. “Wanderer” is a love song that I wrote for my partner, because he helped me have that feeling of home for the first time in my adult life.

There are a number of songs about young love and new love on the album. Was there something that was making you reminisce about those times in your life?

These songs were all written across a long time-span – over 10 years really – since my last record. So the songs come from different stages and sides of love, right into motherhood. Some songs deal with heartbreak too and some are more reflective about the past. During the pandemic, I was reflecting a lot about how we internalize the messages we receive from society, how as a woman I took on the expectations of others and how that has affected my life. I was looking back, looking for clues, curious about where fear comes from, where strength and resilience come from. How we learn how to be our authentic selves when there are so many outside pressures and confusing messages. “Seventeen” isn’t about that, at all, but it ended up coming out of that period of reminiscing. It’s a song that came from my own experiences but that is essentially about being in love and not being ready or able to face it or express it, which I think is probably a pretty common experience.

These are all things I’m thinking about a lot now that I have a child, too, because they become very relevant. You’re trying to model behaviors for a young person and it really makes you face yourself. You have to look at why you do and say certain things and what you want to teach and how you want to be.

Speaking of wandering, I read that you split your time between Nashville and Vancouver Island.

I just got back from British Columbia, and I’ll be back in BC in the summer, so yes, I’m back and forth. I tour a lot, so I try to get home to BC when I’m already out traveling. But I work a lot in Nashville and so does my partner, so we’re still figuring that out.

Do you feel you are different when you are in these two different places?

Definitely. That’s been a real theme becoming a mother, really. Suddenly, you’re responsible for another human life. You have to let go of a lot of ways that you used to do things and prioritize what matters. I’m always shifting modes.

When I’m on tour, I operate in a certain way. When I’m in BC, I’m close to my parents and that brings out certain things. When I’m on my own, I have a bit more freedom to maybe be my creative self and when I’m in parenting mode, that goes out the window. Additionally, a partnership requires a lot of work and time, too. There are a lot of different parts of life that I’m juggling. But it keeps it interesting.

This isn’t meant to be a conversation about being a musician and motherhood and “having it all,” but it is a big theme of the record!

It has been a big theme of my life of late. Actually, I wanted to make this record about eight years ago and then I put it on hold, because I wasn’t able to line up all the musicians I wanted involved. I thought, “I’ll do it next year.” And then I had my son and I just didn’t know that motherhood would be such an all-consuming thing. It doesn’t have to be – and everyone’s different!

I really want to do a good job at everything that I do, and so I found it hard [to balance everything.] I felt like I wasn’t doing a good enough job at being a parent and I wasn’t doing a good enough job at performing. That was really hard on me. And I think now, with this new way of looking at things, I’m just being easier on myself and thinking to myself, “Maybe I was enough. Maybe we can’t be perfect at every single thing.” Maybe we don’t have to attempt to be perfect at everything.

First and foremost I think that any woman should have the choice to [balance motherhood and work] in the way she wants to do it. I am still figuring out how to juggle everything – especially since for this record, I decided to put it out on my own label. It’s really exciting and I think will be really rewarding, but it is a ton of work and the learning curve is quite steep.

Wanderer is your fourth solo album. Do you feel this process is different than when you’re working with another artist or with The Wailin’ Jennys?

It is different. The Jennys – I mean, we’ve been together for so long and we have a certain way of working. We’re talking about making a new record, which is really exciting. It’ll be different, because it’s been a while and we’re all changing all the time, you know? That feels like it will be an exciting new experience.

But it is of course different working on my own, especially in this case, because I co-produced this record. When you’re on your own, you draw on a different part of your brain and even your heart. Wanderer is a really personal collection of songs. With the Jennys, we tend to maybe gravitate towards songs that call for three part harmony, so they end up being a bit more anthemic. With these really personal, intimate songs, I connect to them in a different way.

What lessons do you feel like you can take away now that you’ve finished making Wanderer that you want to take with you on your next project?

I’ve learned so much in doing this. Because it took so long to make it and these songs were waiting in the wings for so long, it felt really important for me to make it. The stakes felt high, because it had been so long in the making.

Now that it’s done and I’m putting it out, I am really excited and proud of it. I want to just keep releasing expectations and I’m very excited to dig into creative work again.


Photo Credit: Jacqueline Justice

WATCH: Never Come Down, “Better Late Than Never” (Live)

Artist: Never Come Down
Hometown: Portland, Oregon
Song: “Better Late Than Never” (Live)
Album: Better Late Than Never (Live)
Release Date: December 15, 2023

In Their Words: “This past summer we found ourselves performing, teaching, and camping at a racetrack – Agassiz Speedway in British Columbia. Why? We were scheduled to play NimbleFingers Music Festival, but it had to be relocated due to wildfires raging in the vicinity of Sorrento, BC, where the festival usually takes place.

“Salvaging the event was an exercise in adaptability – making proverbial lemonade from lemons with a great group of fellow human beings. There was also no way we were gonna pass up pickin’ on a racetrack. The re-imagined version of the festival was unique and exciting in its own special way. We hope the same can be said of this new take on an old song of ours.” – Brian Alley, banjo


Photo Credit: Julia Varga
Video Credit: Trent Freeman

WATCH: Ethan Lyric, “I Love You More”

Artist: Ethan Lyric
Hometown: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Song: “I Love You More”
Album: Saskatoon Berries EP
Release Date: October 13, 2023 (single); December 1, 2023 (EP)

In Their Words: “The music video was shot in Vancouver, British Columbia, throughout the beautiful area of North Van alongside my cinematographer and long-time collaborator, Carter Heintz. Showing the journey and navigation of love through the simple and fun lens my music always tries to provide.

“The inspiration for this project as a whole came from a lot of artists and things in my life at the time. This single and my upcoming EP, Saskatoon Berries, take a lot of inspiration from the musicians I grew up hearing on YouTube – like Conan Gray, Cavetown, and Chloe Moriondo. All these people create music that just makes you feel at ease and want to smile, and that’s how I would love my music to be received as well. I feel this project was also deeply influenced by the process of finding myself and my identity. I always like to say that being an Indigenous artist, whether you write explicitly about Indigenous culture or not, your culture is one of the biggest inspirations to your art so I feel obviously that was a large inspiration as well.” – Ethan Lyric

Track Credits: Songwriter – Ethan Lyric

Musicians: Ethan Lyric – vocals, guitar
Jeremy Haywood Smith (JayWood) – bass
Brett Tizcon – keys
Anil Ramgotra – drums

Producer – Jeremy Haywood Smith (JayWood)
Recording engineer – Jeremy Haywood Smith (JayWood)
Mixing – Art Antony
Mastering – J. LaPointe (Archive Mastering)


Photo Credit: Julio Assis (BNB Studios)
Video Credits: Cinematographer – Carter Heintz

Edited by Ethan Lyric, Carter Heintz
Featuring – Matilda Shanks, Victoria McNeil

LISTEN: Ocie Elliott, “What Remains”

Artist: Ocie Elliott
Hometown: Victoria, BC
Song: “What Remains”
Album: What Remains EP
Release Date: September 23, 2022
Label: Nettwerk

In Their Words: “This song came to life in a daydream haze whilst we were staying in a hotel room for one of our only gigs of 2021. The melody and chords came into Jon’s head in the beginnings of a short nap before showtime. We wrote the lyrics and chorus during the months that followed and at first it was written as a kind of ode to a lover lost. After living with the song for a time, it took on new meaning however, especially after Sierra’s father was diagnosed with cancer and passed away in short time. Now the song sits with a multitude of meanings for us and it’s definitely turned into one of our favourites on the EP.” — Jon Middleton and Sierra Lundy, Ocie Elliott


Photo Credit: Sara Spectrum

WATCH: Sam Weber, “Here’s to the Future”

Artist: Sam Weber
Hometown: North Saanich, BC, Canada
Song: “Here’s to The Future”
Album: Get Free
Release Date: February 4, 2022
Label: Sonic Unyon

In Their Words: “Every album cycle brings one song that cuts me right to the core. Like a three-year cross-section of every complex life moment laid bare in the simplest words. Through confronting my deepest, heaviest truths through these songs I am able to see the world in a new way. ‘Here’s to the Future’ was that song for me, but also a toast and a prayer to the better and brighter days ahead. The first verse is sort of about leaving home and running from pain. The video is a compilation of Super 8 footage we took on some of my many drives from British Columbia, where I’m from, to LA where I am now.” — Sam Weber


Photo Credit: Jacob Boll

WATCH: The Lonesome Ace Stringband, “The Hills of Mexico” (Live)

Artist: The Lonesome Ace Stringband
Hometown: Toronto, Ontario / Horsefly, British Columbia
Song: “The Hills of Mexico”
Album: Lively Times – Live at the Anza Club
Release Date: November 26, 2021

In Their Words: “We recorded ‘The Hills of Mexico’ on our first album, Old Time. Since then it’s become our most requested piece. Although the original version of this song comes from Roscoe Holcomb, our version owes more to the band The Renegades, which featured the singing of Carol Elizabeth Jones. Our interpretation has evolved in the ten years since we recorded it, so it was great to capture it in this live performance from back in 2019. The new album, which will be streaming on November 26, was recorded at a live show in Vancouver, BC. It features some of our favorite songs by artists such as John Hartford, Gus Cannon, Bill Monroe, Marty Robbins, and The Stanley Brothers.” — Chris Coole, The Lonesome Ace Stringband


Photo Credit: Jen Squires

BGS 5+5: Twin Kennedy

Artist: Twin Kennedy
Hometown: Powell River, British Columbia, Canada
Latest Album: Homebound
Personal nicknames: Carli guitar-ly, Julie fidd-ooly

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

Looking through old family videos, we have footage of us singing together as young as 3! We put on living room concerts for our mom and dad and their friends, so we knew from a young age that performing was something we loved to do. We started playing as a family band with our dad and our younger sister, Katelyn, when we were 7 years old, and we were really excited and serious about rehearsing and preparing for shows even at that age. We have always been passionate about music — from creating and writing to arranging and harmonizing. We feel so lucky that we were introduced to all of this in our early days with our family because it’s what made us fall in love with performing, and we knew that we wanted to make music our career!

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

Live performance has always been our true love as musicians. We fell in love with being on stage when we were kids, and we have spent many years building practice routines and rehearsal rituals together. As twin sisters, we do have that stereotypical connection of “reading each other’s minds.” We call it “twin-tuition” — we can sense how each other is feeling — and so we make it a priority to focus on creating positive energy before every show. When all of our tour dates were cancelled due to the pandemic, we missed live music so much, and we spent a lot of time talking about what we wanted touring and performing to look like when we could return to that part of our career. For our Homebound Tour dates, our pre-show ritual includes a moment of gratitude. We hug each other and wish each other a great show like we’ve always done, but then we take time to give thanks that we are able to walk on stage again and share music, feel that connection with the audience, and do what we love to do.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

We love every step of the creative process of building a new musical project — and that comes with many different art forms, from video creation to styling to graphic design to merchandise design. We are so inspired by the artists that we get to work with, from our incredible co-writers, to the photographers and directors! We love when music can be reflected in the artwork on the page, say of an album cover, or in a grand sense, like a music video on a mountaintop. When we’re writing a song, we always love it when we can envision the music video or the single artwork as the song is being written.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

We wrote our mission statement as Twin Kennedy in the first year that we started touring full time, and although it has evolved over the years, the foundation has always remained the same: To spread joy through music. We aim to create genuine connection through songs and performance, and create a legacy of love and positivity both on and off the stage.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

With this new album, we have been the most open we have ever been as songwriters and artists, and all of the songs come from a “me” perspective. All of the co-writers on Homebound are people that we have worked with for years — friends who we have built a trust and connection with that allows us to open up in the writing room. For us, this kind of “safe space” creates our best music. We are really proud of the diversity of emotion and messages that we share on Homebound, and they all come from a personal place. We hope that people can relate to our lyrics and hear their own stories in our songs!


Photo Credit: Suzanne Sagmeister Photography

WATCH: Suzie Ungerleider, “Baby Blues”

Artist: Suzie Ungerleider
Hometown: Vancouver, BC
Song: “Baby Blues”
Album: My Name is Suzie Ungerleider
Release Date: August 13, 2021
Label: MVKA

In Their Words: “‘Baby Blues’ is inspired by the idea that we all carry little movies in our minds about things that have scarred us in our childhoods. They replay in our heads and whisper in our ears and affect how we see the world so profoundly for the rest of our lives. They make maps in our brains that tie us forever to that geography of the past. The song is set on the country roads in Ontario, Canada, where there literally is a place called Fallowfield. Rolling hills and farmland and falling down barns dot the landscape. It’s beautiful and haunting all at once.” — Suzie Ungerleider


Photo credit: Stephen Drover

BGS 5+5: Phöenix Lazare

Artist name: Phöenix Lazare
Hometown: Salt Spring Island, BC
Latest Album: Gold
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Fawkes, Bean, Peanuts, Peanuts & Popcorn, Pheen

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I’m from a small island off the coast of British Columbia, so I’ve always spent the most time with the Pacific Ocean. From a young age, whenever I needed space I would bring myself to the beach and let the sounds of crashing waves calm me down. Often I’ll bring a journal to do some free writing or even a guitar to explore song ideas, but I find that even the silence inspires me to go home and create. I’ve even used voice memos I took of birds and natural sounds to open songs before, including the album’s first single, “Against All Odds.” I took this particular voice memo recording at my grandmother’s house right after COVID hit, when the transition of winter to spring felt bittersweet.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

Joni Mitchell has undoubtedly influenced me the most as an artist, songwriter and human. When I started taking music more seriously in adolescence, my parents bought me one of her biographies and I thought to myself, “Who is this crazy lady?” It took me a few years to finally pick up that book, but once I did I never looked back. I started listening through her discography and learning about her journey as a songwriter and performer. I was instantly captivated by her character; I admired her authenticity and radical unwillingness to conform to standards that the music industry pushes artists. The diversity in her music between albums is a beautiful reminder to create what feels good and not look back.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

My song “The Other Side” took years and a lot of growth to complete. It’s a very vulnerable song that reflects on my first love, looking back with gratitude rather than regret. I was hesitant to record and put it on the album because it’s so personal, but I decided I want to be an example for songwriters that it means more when a song comes from a place of true authenticity. I’ve had a few audience members come up after shows and tell me how deeply they connected to it after a breakup, so I’m glad I set aside my doubts to write and share it.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

This is a very interesting question… as someone who is an enthusiast of both music and food, there are so many answers I could say. But for some reason, as a nod to my English roots, the one that sticks out in my mind is pairing Will Champion (drummer for Coldplay) with a classic Indian curry dish — my favourite is aloo gobi. I would love to share an order of garlic naan with Will and listen to his thoughts about his journey as a collaborative band member in the music industry. Coldplay has influenced my music and my life so heavily and their music would pair well with a spicy meal.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

Although it might not be the very first moment, it’s the most memorable — years ago back in 2014 I brought together family, friends and community members to host a farewell concert at my hometown’s local theatre. It was a fundraiser to support the transition to my first year attending Berklee College of Music in Boston and the house was packed. Even though I was young and was still finding my sound, I performed alongside my dad, brother, and so many other talented friends. It meant the world to feel so supported in the pursuit of my dreams and in that moment I knew that music was what I was meant to do.


Photo credit: Stasia Garraway

WATCH: Dana Sipos, “Breathing Barrel”

Artist: Dana Sipos
Hometown: Hamilton, ON (currently residing in Victoria, BC)
Song: “Breathing Barrel”
Album: The Astral Plane
Release Date: June 25, 2021
Label: Roaring Girl Records

In Their Words: “‘Breathing Barrel’ is ultimately a meditation on being at peace with the present moment. Written immediately upon returning home to the city from a music residency at the Banff Centre for the Arts, deep in the foothills of the Rockies, this song is an attempt to integrate a very powerful experience into the more mundane, everyday life. I was trying to trick or convince myself to ‘be July in the wintertime’ — ‘July’ being the Banff Centre in the middle of a bleak Toronto winter, trying to buoy myself and bring back that feeling of abundance and ripe possibility. So in visiting many landscapes, changing seasons, and fleeting moments while focusing on staying present, ‘Breathing Barrel’ turned into a bit of a dreamscape.

“The video was created by Victoria musician Trevor Lang, with dozens of high-resolution scans of vintage magazine cutouts, finely tuned to line up with the rhythm of the song. The pairing of vintage magazine cutouts with the text made to look as though it was coloured in by hand and was intended to mirror the warm and analog textural quality of the recording, the feeling of paper and pencil. The slightly unusual frame rate of this video (eight frames-per-second as opposed to the typical stop-motion animation of either six or 12 frames-per-second) was intended to give the video a familiar but unique rhythm akin to the drum machine featured throughout the song.” — Dana Sipos


Photo credit: Chris Dufour