A Survivor of Her Dreams, Kelsey Waldon Returns With ‘No Regular Dog’

Kelsey Waldon has a new outlook on life — or at least life as a full-time musician. A native of Monkey’s Eyebrow, Kentucky, she’s charmed audiences all across the country at concert halls and festival stages. But she cut her teeth at plenty of dive bars and honky-tonks along the way, a fact that reveals itself not only in her charismatic, unmistakably country live shows, but also in the independent spirit that courses through her lyrics.

A strong songwriter with the voice and twang to match, Waldon’s musical prowess caught the attention of legendary songwriter John Prine, who signed her to his record label in 2019 — his first signing in a decade and a half — and released the widely acclaimed White Noise, White Lines later that year. This month, she will return with No Regular Dog, her fourth full-length album and her second via Prine’s Oh Boy Records. Brimming with twangy strings, thoughtful imagery, and a tenacious, determined lyrical undertone, the album holds all of Waldon’s usual musical hallmarks. But it also paints the picture of an artist who has grown since her last release; a snapshot of someone who’s stepped back, reconsidered her place in the musical ecosystem, and re-emerged more enthusiastic and clear-eyed than ever.

No Regular Dog was mixed by renowned engineer Trina Shoemaker (“I’m a huge fan,” says Waldon) and produced by Shooter Jennings, who took a highly collaborative approach to the role. “I think Shooter really sees himself much more as a facilitator,” says Waldon. “He felt his job was to stick with my vision but elevate it in any way possible. He really knows how to let the artist be themselves.”

A few days before the release of No Regular Dog, BGS caught up with Waldon about the studio dynamic that molded the album, the life experiences that inspired her, and the daily joys that keep her grounded.

BGS: In the title track, “No Regular Dog,” there’s this great phrase: “survivor of my dreams.” It’s a lyric that could be interpreted a lot of different ways. What did you intend when you wrote it?

Waldon: We wish for so many things. We want them. We work so hard for them. And then, sometimes, we get really lucky from all that hard work and it gets handed to us. At that point, I do think you have to survive it. I don’t mean that in a bad way! Obviously, I’m doing what I love and that’s something I realize is a privilege and a gift. But it comes with its own sacrifices. People always say “livin’ the dream,” and I always joke around and say I’m surviving the dream. [Laughs]

The song was written at a time when we’d been on the road for three months. I was on a plane somewhere, and my poor old manager, who’s one of my best friends now, said something like, “Well, we ain’t no regular dogs.” In my head, I was like, “Yeah. More like a wolf on the kill. We’re going to do this no matter what it takes.”

You work so hard to get to where you are, and then it’s kind of like, “Oh, shit. This is hard.” The road’s not for everybody. But I really wanted it. I wanted it for all the right reasons, and I still do. Especially after taking some distance from my career during the pandemic, I’m finally feeling ready to step into my role. The song is about the idea and the statement that I’m still here. I won’t be put down that easy. I won’t be put down like no regular dog.

You mentioned that some distance from your music career adjusted your perspective. What are some of the things that continue to fill your cup, bring you joy, in between touring or recording?

Well, I’ve always got a pretty lush garden growing. My tomatoes are popping off right now, and we just got a big old mess of greasy beans. I cooked them last night for dinner. Obviously, that’s always brought me joy. I also love this summer heat. I’m one of those people! I really do. I know people hate it, but I love it. I love the bugs at night and everything. That’s bringing me great joy, too. I got to go fishing a little bit, go on some good trips before I left for Europe. And my little cattle dog, Luna, she’s out here on the porch just laying here while I’m talking and that brings me a lot of joy. I love taking care of my chickens out here and being able to spend some time with my partner, Justin. I’ve got a new little niece named PJ, and she is the best. So, aunt life has brought me joy as well.

You recorded this in Los Angeles with Shooter Jennings. How did that come about?

I loved working with Shooter, and that was the first time I’d recorded in Los Angeles — I had done everything in Asheville or in Kentucky thus far. But as soon as I knew I was going to make a new record, I wanted to challenge myself to get out of my immediate bubble and work with someone I didn’t really have any history with. I felt in my gut that I really needed to do that.

Shooter and I met at a Tanya Tucker show in Kansas City at the end of 2019. I was really taken aback that he knew my music. I mean, he was telling me things ​about my songs and I was just kind of like, “OK, he’s actually listened. He’s actually a fan.” I had, of course, heard records he had done. Obviously, I was a big fan of Tanya’s record, and I’d heard that Jaime Wyatt record he had done and I thought it was great. It all felt so natural. We kept in touch. I sent him some voice memos and demos I had done here at the house. It was clear that we were both incredibly excited to make this record. I think he had always kind of wanted to make a deep country record. We both clearly had a common goal and we made it happen.

One of the songs on the record that really stands out to me is the closer, “Progress Again.” What inspired it?

That was one of the only songs on the record that I wrote a while back. I brought it to the studio for White Noise, but it just wasn’t ready yet. But I kept thinking about that song. During the pandemic, I opened up my journal and revisited the tune. I wrote new verses to it. It felt like I was in a different part of my life to finally have the experience I needed to finish it. I mean, everything is progress. I’ve done a lot in my life. I’ve messed up. I’ve had a huge healing time these past couple years — I’ve been off booze for almost two years. There’s a lot that you’re not really able to see when you’re in the thick of things. But being able to look back from a healthy distance, you might realize how many people you were hurting. That you were hurting yourself. “Progress Again” is a little bit about that, but it’s also about accepting that progress is a part of life and just moving on and not dwelling on things. So, you got to learn to let it go and love yourself a little bit.

You say in the song that “there’s hope in persistence.” Has that rung true for you, in your career or otherwise?

Yes, absolutely, in everything I’ve done in life. 100%. Not only in my career, but in my personal life and mental health. It takes a lot of work to turn bad habits into good habits. You have to be consistent, be persistent about it. It’s an everyday thing. But it gets easier, even though it’s still hard. At the end of the day, you’ve got to bet on yourself. You can’t let just one thing fuck it up for you. There’s hope in persistence because something could break through — you just can’t stop.

One of those breakthrough moments for you came a few years ago when you signed with John Prine’s Oh Boy label. You honor him on No Regular Dog with a song written in tribute, “Season’s Ending.” Why was that important to include here?

“Season’s Ending” was the first song that I wrote after John’s death. I couldn’t really do anything for months after that happened. There was so much other death as well. There was a lot of loss; I think it was hard times for a lot of people. I was pretty stricken with grief for a good few months, and I know I’m not the only one. But I finally sat down and that song poured out of me. It was a nod to his song “Summer’s End.” But the seasons were changing and the flowers were blooming and I just started thinking about how everything is cyclical. The song is about coping. Accepting death as a part of life. Maybe everything that dies doesn’t really die. Maybe it comes back. Flowers don’t bloom all year. Some things go dormant, and then they come back. The song was just a way for me to process that. Death is a part of life. John is forever a part of my story, and I’m a part of his legacy as well.

What do you hope this album’s legacy will be—for old fans and new ones?

We’re in really hard times right now, and I hope this album can be a gift to people. I feel like I’m coming to my career with whole new eyes: I’ve been thinking a lot about what I’ve been able to do, what I can do further, and what kind of energy I want to bring. Mostly, I just hope this album makes people’s lives better. I hope they can see the no regular dog in themselves, and I hope it can bring something good to the world.


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In a Legendary Moment, Joni Mitchell Returns to Newport Folk Festival

Newport Folk has long been a place where legendary moments are formed. The festival achieved yet another moment in its storied history last weekend when Joni Mitchell joined Brandi Carlile during the festival’s closing jam, marking the iconic songwriter’s first return to the festival in over half a century and first public live performance in decades. Brandi & Co. gave us a moment we all needed. Hearing Joni’s words and calming, dulcet tones was a balm for an uncertain society; a collective pause for us to reflect on time and its passing, and how different the world looks since the last time Joni played this stage.

We’ve rounded up a collection of the best videos around the internet from Joni’s historic set so that even if you weren’t there, you can take that joy in from every angle.

Brandi Introduces Joni

Questlove caught much of Brandi’s introductory speech building the excitement for the Joni Jam – and a bit of electric uncertainty among the crowd whether or not the guest of honor would actually be in attendance – as well as the first two numbers (“Carey” and “Come in From the Cold”) up close and personal.

 

 

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But it’s wholly worth watching Brandi’s speech in its entirety, as she acknowledges the power of congregation and radical love. “To power structures, folk music is — and always has been — utterly fucking destructive… It’s a truth teller and a power killer.”


“Both Sides Now”


“Big Yellow Taxi”


Joni’s Grand Entrance

 

 

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“Just Like This Train”

Joni and her electric guitar graced us with this Court and Spark beauty after a word of encouragement from Brandi Carlile: “Kick ass, Joni Mitchell!”


“The Circle Game”


“Summertime”


“A Case of You”

 

 

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An Interview with Joni & More Onstage Moments

 

 

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WATCH: Jason Boland & The Stragglers, “Restless Spirits”

Artist: Jason Boland & The Stragglers
Hometown: Harrah, Oklahoma; now based in Austin, Texas
Song: “Restless Spirits”
Album: The Light Saw Me (produced by Shooter Jennings)
Release Date: December 3, 2021
Label: Thirty Tigers

In Their Words: “This tune was written by the great Bob Childers, and he once told us, ‘All my songs are love songs.’ We feel so honored to have known him and to have this song make its way into the story of The Light Saw Me. The line ‘her eyes were closed but still they held the light’ made me rethink what this song could mean as an emotional point in this tale. Plus, in the way that Willie Nelson’s Red Headed Stranger had ‘Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain,’ I wanted to include a classic on this concept album. The deeper meaning of the material is ‘meaning’ itself. When faced with the stoic realities of our collective fate, love is the source of the power that can keep us going.” — Jason Boland

“Jason is one of my dearest friends and, in my opinion, one of the smartest and coolest dudes I know. This album isn’t just another album from Jason & The Stragglers. It’s a magnum opus of the highest creative order, which in turn I take as a very serious honor to be able to be a part of its inception.” – Shooter Jennings


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The White Buffalo Gives Fans an Escape with Live-Streamed Set, New Songs

With a tour scrapped and a new album to unveil, The White Buffalo (musician Jake Smith) will be bringing the concert experience — and a bunch of previously unheard songs — directly to fans for a live-streaming experience on Sunday, April 5. By email, Smith fielded a few questions from BGS about what his loyal listeners can expect, both from the streaming concert and the upcoming project, On the Widow’s Walk, out on April 17.

BGS: You have found an interesting way to connect with fans during this time. Can you tell us what the visual component of this show will look like?

The White Buffalo: It won’t be a bunch of smoke and mirrors. That being said we are shooting for something of a much higher quality both sonically and visually. It will be lit and shot on multiple cameras. We are really trying to elevate the live online streaming experience and people’s homes.

How about the sound — acoustic, full band, or a mixture of both?

We are recording in a studio so the sound will be of the highest quality. It’s going to be full band, a trio like we’ve toured with for years. This time we’re going to have Christopher Hoffee who plays bass on piano on some songs and I’m trying to elevate my guitar tone to bring some dirtier sounds to match the new album.

This event differs from a tour date to some degree, but what goes through your mind in the moments before taking the stage?

I just try to step back and appreciate that this is my job. I feel very lucky to have people care and connect with what I have to say. The live setting cannot be replaced. I think it’s the most visceral way to absorb music.

With a new record on the way, I am sure you will drop in some new material. What is that experience like for you as a writer, sharing something new for the first time?

It’s a bit nerve-racking playing songs that no one’s ever heard but it’s exciting for the most part. On the upcoming album I again tried to run the scope and breadth of emotions. Dark, gothic, lighter, hope-filled, optimistic, heartfelt, heavy… It’s hard to judge what songs will really resonate with crowds until you get out and play them.

You have already introduced the world to “The Rapture” prior to the album. What was on your mind when you wrote that?

That one’s a twisted, primal tale of murder. The first few lines just spilled out of silence as they do. From there I put myself in the shoes of this fantasy character and it was obvious to me where he’d end up. He’s trying to restrain his evil ways but the animal in him is too wicked and strong.

What surprised you the most about the time you spent making the new record?

Truly how fast everything came to be. I wrote and finished the bulk of the songs within a couple weeks after an inspired and validating meeting with Shooter. During two sessions we recorded the whole thing in 6-7 days. The recording process was the most honest, organic thing we’ve done to date. With Shooter Jennings producing and sitting in on piano, we’d all sit in a room and record what happened. Recording and documenting live takes until we felt like we had the right feel and emotion for the song. It sounds simple but it was about catching those real, live, special moments.

So much of the live experience is about connection. Will there be a way for fans to have that interaction with you during this event?

I’m hoping so. I’m hoping they’ll feel it. We plan on bringing the same unbridled passion for performance as we do to live shows. There will be an interactive part of it as well, a little Q&A. That’s something we don’t do at shows, so trying to fill the distance a bit with that.

What would you like your audience to take away from this experience, in the midst of these uncertain times?

Hoping to give people an escape. To connect with them through the music… make them feel pain, joy, hope, fear… Take them on an emotional journey… for them to have a respite in the these crazy times and be entertained and lose themselves in the moment.


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LISTEN: The Mastersons, “Eyes Open Wide”

Artist: The Mastersons
Hometown: Los Angeles, California
Song: “Eyes Open Wide”
Album: No Time for Love Songs
Release Date: March 6, 2020
Label: Red House Records

In Their Words: “‘Eyes Open Wide’ was one of the first tunes we wrote for the record. It took on a Byrds/Gene Clark feel the moment the Rickenbacker 12 string came out, which seemed apropos for a record cut in LA at Sunset Sound. Once Shooter Jennings had Bonnie Whitmore and Mark Stepro add their harmonies it added a Fleetwood Mac vibe and turned into a pretty fun track. It also feels like a song for the times as we can’t bury our heads in the sand with so much going on in the world. It’s tempting to check out with so much bad news every day, but it’s time for all hands on deck.” — The Mastersons


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Tanya Tucker Remains a Songwriter’s Muse (Part 2 of 2)

Tanya Tucker isn’t known as a songwriter, although “Bring My Flowers Now” from her newest album, While I’m Livin’, shows she can hold her own. Across four consecutive decades of charting singles, she relied largely on the Nashville songwriting community — and in turn, she’s served as a muse for them. Among her forty Top 10 country hits are classics like “Delta Dawn,” “Strong Enough to Bend,” and “Two Sparrows in a Hurricane.”

Now, her life is the inspiration behind the songs of While I’m Livin’, produced by Brandi Carlile and Shooter Jennings. A bulk of the material was written specifically about Tucker by Carlile and her musical comrades Tim and Phil Hanseroth (a.k.a. The Twins). At her producers’ insistence, she also cut material formerly recorded by Miranda Lambert (“The House That Built Me”) and Waylon Jennings (“High Riding Heroes”).

In the second half of our Artist of the Month interview, Tucker talks about the songwriters she’s known, the mysteries of songwriting, and the left-of-center producer that she credits with her career. (Read the first half of the interview.)

BGS: I read that you had Loretta Lynn in mind while writing “Bring My Flowers Now.”

Tucker: Yeah, I was on the way to Christmas in Texas on the bus. And she called me, or I called her, and we’re always talking songs. She says, “We gotta write something together. You gotta come on over here and write. Me and you gotta write a hit.” And I said, “Well, I got this idea, let me sing a little bit to you. I’ve had it for years, but I just can’t find anything to go with it.” And I sang her the chorus and she goes, “When you come back through here, you gotta stop in here. We’ll finish that song. I love that idea.”

So I went out to California in the meantime, and I guess I’d sung it for some reason to Brandi — and I’m sure I sung a few ideas to her. But then she brought it up the last day of the sessions and we cut it right after we finished writing it. And then it became the title, so yeah, that’s pretty cool.

Yeah, it’s such a minimal production on that song.

That was always her thing. She told me, “It’s time that we hear your voice and it’s been so covered up, and so in the mix. And it’s time for people to hear the real Tanya Tucker, and you don’t need a lot of crap over it and a lot of production.” She’s very into that — very raw, real, flaws and all.

I wanted to ask you about Tom T. Hall because he’s popular among our readers, and he’s in the Bluegrass Hall of Fame now. He’s written a lot of bluegrass hits.

Oh! I had no idea. I’ve been thinking about him a lot lately. We text, I text him. Johnny Rodriguez and I were together the other day, talking about how Tom T. brought him to Nashville to play guitar. And how I toured with him. I used his van when I was a kid. That was always hard because some people didn’t like you using their van. But he was very cool with it.

I was 14. We had dinner one night and even back then he said, “You know, you gave me a great idea for a song.” So I guess I’ve always come by it naturally. Now songwriters hang out around me, just knowing any minute something’s gonna come out of my mouth. I can’t tell you how many big songs that were my idea. But I didn’t write it, so that’s the way it goes.

I’m a great idea person. I’m a great hook person. But it’s just like “Bring My Flowers Now,” I had the chorus but I could not find the meat. I had the bread, but no meat. And if you don’t have that, then you might as well hang it up. Sometimes it takes a catalyst to get that out of you. Gary Stewart was that way with me. … He could somehow get things out of me. I’ve known some people that can just be in a room, while you’re in the room writing, and just bring it out without even realizing it.

I don’t know what it is. Writing a song is very hard to explain in words how it happens. It’s almost like you have to explain it after, “Well that happened. Curiously, it happened this way.” I don’t really think about it much. Harlan Howard always told me, “Oh, you’re a writer trying to get out of a singer’s body.” Max D. Barnes was a good friend of mine and he said, “If you just sit down and focus for a few minutes, I bet we would write at least three standards.” At least three. So I’ve had the greats say things like that to me — and mean them.

You’ve been listening for great material from the very start of your career.

When I was a kid, one day I said to Billy Sherrill, “I’m getting a little irritated. You know, you write all these songs for Tammy Wynette and you ain’t never written one for me.” And he goes, “Well, let me tell you why.” Either he knows how to build a fence real quick or he was really being honest, and he said, “It’s because I have never written a song that’s as good as you are a singer.” And I went, “Oh, well that was really cool. I’m not sure I believe that shit.” But he did finally write me one and I did record it. It wasn’t a single. It was called “I Guess I’ll Have to Love Him More.”

I used to fight with him about recording some songs. “Almost Persuaded” — he goes, “Nah nah nah, we don’t need to do that.” And I’d go, “WE’RE GOING TO DO THAT!” I had someone tell me the other day, “God, I loved the way you sang ‘Almost Persuaded.’” It was a totally different change from the boy to the girl. But he never did want me to cut any of his songs and I had to fight him to do it. Sure miss old Billy. I give him all the credit. Without him, I don’t think any of this would have happened.

He set the stage for you.

Well, he listened to me. They’re walking out of there going, “What the hell?! This guy’s lost his mind listening to this kid.” Because I turned down “Happiest Girl in the Whole USA.” I said, “Love the song, it’s great, but it’s not my song.” And then when he played “Delta Dawn,” with Alex Harvey on guitar/vocal, and I went, “There you go. That’s my song.” And he listened. I didn’t record anything that I didn’t want to with Billy.

He was a little left-of-center and I’ve always said that anybody that gave me a chance in life was… maybe dealing with more decks of cards, a little off-center. Because anybody logical, who had a watch, was on time, never gave me a shot. It was always those people that were just a little crazy…

I’m so proud to have known some of those boys. Oh my god, all my boys at CBS [Records] were really great. When Billy signed me, the record label thought he was crazy, too. But they couldn’t mess with him too much because he had all the hits on the charts. They thought he was kind of strange, actually very strange. And he was. He wasn’t a normal kind of guy. At all. So, those kind of people, I have a soft spot for because they’re the ones that gave me my chance, my shot.

Your fans are going to hear this and might say, “Well, this is different.” What do you hope they hear in this record?

Well, I hope they like it. “The Wheels of Laredo” is a good song, but it’s not “Only two things in life make it worth living.” It didn’t grab me like that, but it’s grabbed everybody. I’m amazed that they like it as much as they do. People have come out of the woodwork, they’re sending me videos of them listening to it in Canada and in the pool, Buck Brannaman riding in the arena to it — and it’s just like, “Whoa, what is it about this song?”

I really don’t know. I can’t put my finger on it, but I’m glad it’s happened. I bet it’s like what Elvis felt when they gave him “Hound Dog” – “What the hell?! I ain’t singing this: ‘You aint’ nothing but a hound dog, cryin’ all the time.’” Like, “OK, no…” And then he cuts it and it’s a big ol’ smash. Makes you second guess yourself a little bit.

So I really don’t have any explanations of how all this happened and why. I look at all that stuff up there [plaques on the wall]. It’s not all the stuff I’ve done, but it’s a lot of my work and my catalog and my albums. But I never would’ve imagined this album would do what it’s done. Really. I have no answer for it, I have no explanation.


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Illustration: Zachary Johnson

Tanya Tucker Just Might Prove Her Dad Right (Part 1 of 2)

Although her voice is instantly identifiable to even a casual country listener, Tanya Tucker has perpetually reinvented herself in the public eye since she debuted with “Delta Dawn” in 1972. From a mature teen singer in the ’70s, a scandalous star of the ’80s, and an award-winning vocalist in the ’90s, it’s never been easy to define her.

Now she’s back with While I’m Livin’, a stunning song cycle that shows her tender side as well as her rowdy, ready-to-party personality. It’s her first album of new material in 17 years, and by working with producers Brandi Carlile and Shooter Jennings, she’s made the most striking album of her career. Here’s the first of our two-part interview with Artist of the Month, Tanya Tucker.

BGS: I’m sure you’ve been approached to make a record over the last 17 years. What was it about this situation that made you say, “Yeah, let’s do it”?

Tucker: I’ve been working on other projects that I’m doing on my own. I’m really proud of those things and I hope that they see [a release]. I feel like this album, for some reason, is going to open that door. It seemed like before it was low interest. I don’t feel like there was a lot of interest. Maybe there was, I didn’t know about it, but when Shooter said something to me about it, I was like, “Yeah, great, great…” I went off and did Tucson and forgot all about it.

But I came back and it snowballed, and before I knew it, I was in LA doing some recordings on songs that I really didn’t know. I do my deal. I’ve done it all my life. When a song is pitched to me, I put my own something on it — I’ve changed a lot of ‘his’ to ‘her’ and made it my own. That’s one of the biggest compliments I’ve gotten from songwriters. I’ve heard from many of them that I can take their song and make it my own. They’ve always told me that, so it’s a very big compliment to me and I think that’s important. But this kind of came out of nowhere. I really can’t explain it. It kind of just happened and I don’t know how it happened. It did though. I’m pretty sure.

I’ve heard it, it’s real.

I think it is real. I’ve listened to it a few times and the good news is that the more I listen, the more I like it. Because it started out not that way.

What was your first impression of the final product?

I said, “No! Absolutely not.” I just didn’t hear it. I didn’t hear the songs as being anything I could really get into, or put my heart into. I really didn’t think it was going to be that good. I was wrong, and I love being wrong. I mean, I’m wrong a lot, but I was really wrong about that.

What was the relationship like in the studio with Shooter, and what’s he like as a person?

Well, Shooter’s great. I’ve known him before he was Shooter. But if you really would concentrate the time we spent together — very little time. But we spent more time probably on this project than we ever had, and we’ve become best friends. I wouldn’t say I had any better friends. He’s as good as any friend I’ve got.

Good. How about Brandi?

Oh, Brandi. She’s not even right. She is not local. She’s not of this world, she’s just in it. Yeah, she’s very exceptional. Something about her communication skills — maybe it’s just me, I don’t know, but I’ve watched her with everybody and you see the respect people have for her. … That’s the way that you want it to be. The way we made that record — I wish they were all that way. Brandi’s the same way [as Shooter]. I feel like she’s my best friend, totally. And I’d never heard her sing. Not until the Grammys and we were already done with the album.

What did you think when you heard “The Joke”?

I was blown away. Yeah. Blown away. And I loved “That Wasn’t Me.” I think I’m going to learn that one. I may not record it but behind closed doors I may learn that song. If anything, to just say thanks. Hell, she knows all of mine, I should probably start learning a couple of hers, you know? I’m way behind.

Well, it’s important who you surround yourself with. I mean, I don’t have to tell you that.

It used to be really hard for me to see anything bad about anybody. My dad was real good at seeing it before they even knew they were. He was very good about that. I hope that I am acquiring his skills. I’m still not as good as he was.

About a week ago, I read Nickel Dreams [Tucker’s 1997 memoir] and he was like your co-star in that book.

Yeah, well, he is the star, as far as I’m concerned. I’ve never read the book, but they’re on to me about writing another book. I really think that’s the real story. If there was a movie, I believe it should be his life. And then when I get started, that would be the end of the movie. Sequel! I plan ahead. But I think his story is phenomenal and it really needs to be told. His life was pretty unbelievable.

Your childhood is pretty interesting, though, too. Living in Utah…

Arizona, Nevada, and Arkansas.

It is a very dramatic life.

Yes.

It would work well for a script.

Yeah, well, I lived it, so it’s not so interesting to me, but maybe it is. And if it is, then that’s great.

What do you think your dad would say about this record if he had a chance to listen to it?

Oh wow, that’s a good question. Wow, oh wow…. Well, I’d have to say I believe he would love it because there’s two or three songs in there about him. The Twins [Carlile’s longtime bandmates, Tim and Phil Hanseroth] and Brandi actually wrote and custom-fit those songs to me, which is a real talent right there. One that I do not have, among others. But they have the talent. I don’t know if they have it all the time or if it was just this one time. They brought it all together. I don’t know. But I know that it’s unusual.

In fact, Brandi said, “God, I’d give anything if I could’ve met your dad.” And I told her, “Well, he didn’t like many people, but I do believe he would’ve liked you. I really do.” … I think he would like those songs but I think he would definitely be proud of “Bring My Flowers Now”. Because he always told me — Oh my God! You know what? I just figured something out.

What’s that?

My dad told me once, he said, “Let me tell you something.” He said, “The biggest record you’ll ever have, it’ll be the one that you wrote.”

How old were you when he told you that?

Oh, he told me several times. I was already started. I mean, it wasn’t when I was a kid, but many times he’d tell me that. “That’s what you need to do, is write.” But he didn’t like the association that I had to associate with to write. Because back in the day, party party party. Stay up all night, write a few songs. Stay up for a few days and something’s going to come out of it. He didn’t like that part of it. Now it’s become like a business. Meet me at 8:30 and we’ll write until 10:00, we’ll be done before noon.

But you had the Song House, which I read about in your book. You lived there, and then all the songwriters would come over.

Yep, right. Yep, that’s true.

So you love that association.

Oh yeah. I love to party, too, so it all kind of went hand in hand, like alcohol and cigarettes, or cocaine and cigarettes, and alcohol. And blackjack, throw that in there.

Read the second part of the interview.


Lede photo: Derrek Kupish

Artist of the Month: Tanya Tucker

Tanya Tucker is just as surprised as you are that she’s made a brand new record, While I’m Livin’. In an upcoming two-part interview with the enduring country artist, she talks about working with her producers — and new best friends — Shooter Jennings and Brandi Carlile, her friendship with icons like Tom T. Hall and Loretta Lynn, and the shock at seeing the overwhelmingly positive response so far to the new music.

From signing to a major label as a teenager, to rebounding with an award-winning career in her 30s, Tucker placed milestone singles at country radio throughout the ‘70s, ‘80s, and ‘90s, and she’s earned her reputation as one of the most important female country artists of her generation. Enjoy some of her most significant musical achievements in our Essentials playlist.


Photo credit: Danny Clinch

WATCH: Tanya Tucker, “Hard Luck” (Feat. Brandi Carlile & Shooter Jennings)

It’s your lucky day, as “Hard Luck” is here — Tanya Tucker’s brand new video featuring Brandi Carlile and Shooter Jennings, who produced her upcoming album, While I’m Livin’. A 1978 cut from the band Josefus, “Hard Luck” was chosen for the new album by Jennings and personalized lyrically by Tucker. “This tune is really fun,” says Carlile. “If you know Tanya Tucker you know this is her song.” Try your luck and take a look.


Video directed by Chris Phelps

Jam in the Trees 2018 in Photographs

Black Mountain, North Carolina-based Pisgah Brewing hosted their third Jam in the Trees over the weekend of August 24 and 25, bringing together a harlequin lineup of Americana, alt-country, string bands, and bluegrass in the idyllic Blue Ridge Mountains. Whether you were on hand for every second of the musical magic or you couldn’t quite make it to the festival this year, relive the two day roots celebration with our photo recap.


Photos by Revival Photography: Jason and Heather Barr