Joshua Ray Walker Closes Up the Honky-Tonk on ‘See You Next Time’

For the last couple of years, Joshua Ray Walker has been living out the lyrics to a down-in-the-dumps country song. The Texas-born singer-songwriter lost his father, couldn’t work due to COVID, and was displaced from his home during much of that time, after a burst pipe led to a waterfall of misfortune.

But music has always been Walker’s saving grace, and with his new album, See You Next Time, he puts one in the win column. Marking the end of a country music opus that includes three imaginative albums, fully conceived and expertly executed, the set puts the finishing touches on a true honky-tonk opera. Walker’s debut album introduced a fictional bar set in his native South Dallas — full of quirky, charismatic characters and wild adventures — and after the second built on their stories, See You Next Time finds them saying goodbye as the bar closes down for good.

All delivered with a mix of shuffling, authentic trad-country style, soul-inspired horn blasts and Walker’s sympathetic vocal, often cracking at the moment of peak emotional intrigue, that’s a bittersweet thematic arc, to be sure — and one that has been mirrored in his personal life. But after making such a grand vision a reality, and earning the admiration that came with it, Walker’s optimistic about the future.

He spoke with BGS about where the idea for this trilogy came from, what kind of mark his fictional honky-tonk left on him and what it feels like to say goodbye.

BGS: How are you feeling right now? It’s been a difficult stretch for you personally, but you’re back on the road now and this album is something special.

Joshua Ray Walker: As far as my career goes, I feel great. I wanted to make these records for a long time. I had 10 years to think about it and put a plan together. I put out three records in three years, which was my goal, and this last one puts an end to this trilogy that I had in mind.

Ten years is a long time to dream of something. Where did the idea for the trilogy come from?

I guess it started because I found a pen in my grandfather’s drawer — it said, “I rode the bull at Bronco Billy’s.” I had been writing songs for a few years and it just sparked this idea, like what that place would have been like. Who would have been there? I started writing songs about those characters, and over the years my plan got grander and grander, and it turned into this trilogy. I had the artwork and the names all picked out before we ever started cutting the first record.

Did you ever actually go to that bar?

No, that bar closed when I was a baby, but it was a real place in South Dallas that my grandfather went to, I guess. His name was Billy, so I assume he picked up the pen because it had his name on it, and that was really it. It just spiraled out of control and I kept writing songs about these characters. I had dreamed this whole world in my head.

Where did the characters come from? Did you know people like this?

Yeah, I definitely hung out with people just like the characters. I grew up in a part of Dallas that’s pretty nice now, but when I was a kid it was pretty rough, and I grew up around bars and barflies because of the work my parents did. I just like to get to know people, I really like meeting new people, so whenever I go to a dive bar, I end up striking up a conversation with strangers, and all those stories make their way into the albums.

Over these albums, have you developed a favorite character?

Yeah, a lot of them are pretty sad or dark characters, but there’s one in particular I really find funny. It’s the character for “Cupboard” on the second record, who is also the character for “Welfare Chet” on the new record. It’s a song about that guy you run into at the bar and for the first five minutes of the conversation he’s funny and wacky and entertaining, and then 30 minutes in, you’re talking about Q-Anon or whatever. There’s a line in the song about talking with a mouthful of food, but they don’t serve food here, and I just feel like that’s happened to me so many times. Like I’m talking to some guy at the bar who won’t leave me alone and he’s got like a hot dog or something, and they don’t even have hot dogs here, like “Where did you get that?” So that’s one of my favorites. It’s a lighthearted character, but I feel like we’ve all dealt with that guy at some point.

Since you started describing this bar and these people, has your view of the story changed at all? Have you ended up with a different perspective over the years?

I don’t know, that’s an interesting question. I think I was trying to paint a picture that I had in my head, so in a lot of ways it hasn’t changed much, but there’s always a kind of story arc there. Even in the titles — Wish You Were Here, Glad You Made It, See You Next Time — it’s like this coming of age and then dying out. On this last album they’re saying goodbye to the honky-tonk because it’s closing, and I don’t know if the story has changed or the place has changed, but the way that it fits into my personal life has changed. It’s taken on real meaning, by accident, because my personal life has kind of followed this story arc.

Like, I wrote “Canyon” for the first record — that was a story for my dad about our relationship, and I wrote it right after he was diagnosed with cancer. And then four years later I was about to go into the studio to record the third record, and he passed away, so I wrote “Flash Paper.” So I’m coming to terms with loss and then on the last song, actually saying goodbye. That’s what the whole trilogy is about, and it ended up being mirrored by my personal life, just by chance.

So with “Flash Paper,” you were sort of processing everything through the song?

Yeah, that’s typically how I write songs. I mean, the first song I ever wrote is called “Fondly.” It’s on my first record, and my granddad had just passed. As I was leaving the hospital, I wrote that song in the parking lot and it all came out at once, so I think when I’m overwhelmed or whatever, I turn to songwriting. Some of the more emotional songs that come out all at once, like “Canyon” or “Flash Paper,” and “Fondly,” there’s not a lot of clever end-rhymes. It’s just straight forward whatever I was feeling at the moment.

You finish up with “See You Next Time.” You’ve said this project was about saying goodbye to the bar. What about you? Are you a little sad to close this chapter?

No, I wouldn’t say I’m sad. I’m excited to see what I write after this.

Do you have any idea what that might be? This project was so big that I bet it took a lot of creative energy.

I’ve written a lot of songs that haven’t ended up on these three records, so I still have a decent amount of that catalog to put out, and I’m writing all the time, so there’s always new stuff. It will still be country, I assume. I mean, these three records have a honky-tonk vibe because they’re set in a honky-tonk, but I have other aspects of music that I like as well. I think I’ve found a sound that represents what I like as a writer, so I don’t know if the sound will change too much, but the subject matter can be about anything. Now that the world is starting to open back up again, I feel like I need to go to do some living, so I have some experiences to write about. That’s the biggest thing, because most of my songs come from going and exploring places that most people don’t always find interesting. I need to go do some of that so I have some more material.


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LISTEN: Read Southall Band, “Here We Are (There We Went)”

Artist: Read Southall Band
Hometown: Stillwater, Oklahoma
Song: “Here We Are (There We Went)”
Album: For the Birds
Release Date: October 22, 2021
Label: Thirty Tigers

In Their Words: “Being in a touring band, we pack up and leave just as quickly as we set up shop, because a warm welcome in a new place is always worth the distance. The opportunity to get eye-to-eye with a crowd of new faces in a new place is the reason we arrive, as well as the reason we depart. It’s the driving force behind the whole machine. This song is a fun way to celebrate the opportunities music has given us to explore this world and its people. We look forward to all of the new places it takes us.” — Read Southall


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Asleep at the Wheel Turns 50, But Ray Benson Didn’t Know If It Would Last

The term eclectic hardly seems broad enough to accurately describe either the approach of the marvelous band Asleep at the Wheel, or the energetic and fluid style of its lead vocalist and guitarist Ray Benson. The band he formed along with Lucky Oceans and Leroy Preston while farm-sitting in Paw Paw, West Virginia, 50 years ago is now an American cultural institution, although things didn’t really explode for them until they relocated to Austin.

Their latest release, Half a Hundred Years, pays homage to Asleep at the Wheel’s diverse and impressive legacy, although it’s one Benson freely admits he never seriously thought would continue for 50 years.

“Well, when you’re a 19-year-old kid, you don’t even know if the band will be around for 10 years,” he tells BGS with a laugh. “It really wasn’t something at the time that I had any notions about, things about legacy or impact. We were a band that wanted to play a lot of different types of music and enjoyed being around each other. That’s kind of been the trademark ever since.”

Country and Western swing are the foundational genres of their music, but the ensemble is hardly restricted or limited by them. Over their tenure Asleep at the Wheel’s repertoire has also included R&B, blues, jazz, rock and pop, while their albums and live shows feature a constantly evolving blend of originals and inspired covers. In addition, the band seamlessly maintained its trademark sound through numerous personnel changes, while navigating shifts in audience tastes and music industry practices.

“I’ve always been a real music lover, and that’s what’s driven the band all these years,” Benson continues. “Of course, the music business today is so different from the way it was when we started out. Hell, when we started they didn’t even have fax machines. You really thought in terms of radio and marketing a song, and you were trying to get your album played and then that would be the springboard for having it sold in the stores. Today, there’s such a focus on streaming. Vinyl’s made a bit of a comeback, but that’s because CDs are doing so poorly. Then the technology changed so dramatically, with the ability to sonically do things in the studio that we didn’t even dream about back in the ’70s.”

Indeed, Benson’s entire career — inside and outside the band — has been one of variety and experimentation. He taught himself to play the guitar as a 9-year-old. The first song he ever played completely came from a beer commercial he heard during broadcasts of his hometown Philadelphia Phillies. Benson teamed with his sister in a folk group The Four G’s at 11, then while in college he encountered a group whose concept he utilized (with variations) upon forming Asleep at the Wheel. It was that Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen concert in Washington, D.C., where Benson saw and heard a band brilliantly mixing multiple genres in a free-flowing performance mode.

Following their time in West Virginia, Asleep at the Wheel relocated out west in the early ‘70s, playing in various East Bay clubs in California. A show where they shared the stage with Van Morrison, followed by his raving about them in Rolling Stone, began to open some doors. They toured with Black country vocalist Stoney Edwards in 1971, cut a debut LP that did well in the Southwest, then moved to Austin in 1973 after being encouraged by Doug Sahm and Willie Nelson. Upon their arrival in Texas, their second LP was issued by Epic.

However it was after their third LP, with the Top 10 country hit “The Letter That Johnny Walker Read,” that Asleep at the Wheel emerged as a top attraction. By 1978 they were winning the first of their 10 Grammys. They survived a lean period in the ’80s, then bounced back in the ’90s. Benson made another savvy decision that helped sustain the band’s success, recruiting several top country artists to cut two Bob Wills tribute LPs. Then came another hit in 2000, “Roly Poly,” with the [Dixie] Chicks. As a result, Asleep at the Wheel became one of the few country acts that’s managed to have chart records across four consecutive decades.

Their journey is duly reflected in Half a Hundred Years. “I looked at this album as a way to kind of look back and ahead at the same time,” Benson continues. “It covers everything that we’ve done and are doing.” Besides including such heavyweight guest stars as Lyle Lovett, George Strait, Lee Ann Womack, Willie Nelson and Emmylou Harris, the CD is sequenced in an intriguing fashion. The first 11 songs are new tracks featuring original band members. Songs 12-16 (with the exception of 14) feature the current band teaming with various band alumni. Cuts 17-19 are previously unreleased material, while track 14 combines the current band with two of Asleep at the Wheel’s former female singers. “We’re putting this out pretty much every way (configuration) that you can,” Benson adds.

Despite the pandemic, Asleep at the Wheel’s already done several shows and plans more in the near future. Benson has also branched out over the years to do things outside the band arena, among them being on the board of Austin City Limits, a role that led to his hosting the regional TV series Texas Music Scene for several years. He’s also been a prolific producer on LPs by Dale Watson, Suzy Bogguss, Aaron Watson, James Hand and Carolyn Wonderland, plus singles for Willie Nelson, Aaron Neville, Brad Paisley, Pam Tillis, Trace Adkins, Merle Haggard, and Vince Gill. Benson even cut a solo LP, Beyond Time, in 2003 and his autobiography Comin’ Right at Ya was published in 2015. In addition, he’s a founding member of the Rhythm & Blues Foundation, and the owner of a recording studio and label (Bismeaux Studios/Bismeaux Records).

Though it doesn’t seem possible that there are things in the music world Benson hasn’t done yet, he’s quick to list a few people he’d love to work with. “Well, I always wanted to record with Tony Bennett, but he’s retired now,” Benson says. “I’ve sung with Boz Scaggs, but have never done a whole album with him. I’d really enjoy doing that. Also, Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. He’s someone else I’ve sung with, but really would like to do a complete project.”

He concludes, “At this point I really don’t even think about how much longer Asleep at the Wheel will go on because who would ever have given us 50 years? But I can say that I’m still really enjoying it, and this latest project and going out and playing to support it, and the reaction of the people even with everything that’s going on now… well, that tells me we’ve still got a lot of folks out there who enjoy what we do.”


Photo credit: Mike Shore

WATCH: Charley Crockett, “I Won’t Cry”

Artist: Charley Crockett
Hometown: San Benito, Texas
Single: “I Won’t Cry”
Album: Music City USA
Release Date: September 10, 2021
Label: Son of Davy/Thirty Tigers

In Their Words: “This is a soul ballad I wrote about five years ago and forgot about. I was writing for the new record at Mark Neill’s studio in South Georgia one night and I just decided to look way back in my voice memos. I don’t write anything down pretty much at all. I played a recording from 2016 and this was the song. It was just a rough three verses, but I liked it and finished it up right there in the back lounge that night. I’d say it’s the best number on the album. Maybe.” — Charley Crockett


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WATCH: Ramblin’ Ricky Tate, “Drifting”

Artist: Ramblin’ Ricky Tate
Hometown: Birmingham, Alabama
Song: “Drifting”
Release Date: July 30, 2021

In Their Words: “Everyone has lost a love or felt homesick, I’d bet a lot of those people have reached for a whiskey glass a time or two as well. ‘Drifting’ is a tune I wrote about just that. This song is about having hope for better days to come when you feel down. Recorded and filmed field recording style on location in a 140-year-old building, this song has a natural reverb unlike anything you will hear in a studio. I put my heart into this song and I love how the video turned out and I’m honored to share it with y’all.” — Ramblin’ Ricky Tate


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WATCH: Leon Creek, “Call It A Day”

Artist: Leon Creek
Hometown: Los Angeles, California
Song: “Call It A Day”
Album: Far From Broken
Release Date: September 21, 2021

In Their Words: “An element of grain is a part of the Leon Creek records, so working with the photographer and videographer Chase Hart, who only shoots on film and Super 8, has been a great fit for us. We were excited by the Super 8 footage Chase got during our first shoot in Santa Barbara, so we wanted to round out the video with some clips from L.A., where we met and started making music together. Bobby Womack’s BW Goes C&W was an inspiration in making our record, so we aspired to have an element of ’70s country western sprinkled throughout the video. Enter Chicago-based editor and animator Jordan Rundle. Jordan added animation and moving graphics, along with some analog visual effects to his final cut of ‘Call It a Day.'” — Leon Creek (Chris Pierce, Matthew Stevens, and Erik Janson)


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On the Front Porch, Nick Shoulders Strums and Yodels for OurVinyl

Not many artists are doing what Nick Shoulders is doing today. With energy, attitude, and a yodel as good as any out there, Shoulders is keeping that classic country and western sound alive. Theatricality and vigor sum up this Arkansan’s style as a singer and songwriter, drawing on deep ties to southern music and life experiences gathered in his Ozark upbringing.

A true embodiment of integrity and DIY ethics, Shoulders’ new album, Home on the Rage, was recorded entirely in Arkansas and captured onto tape. In this OurVinyl session, Nick Shoulders and vibrant fiddler Milly Raccoon stand on the front porch of an old farm home and perform the upbeat number, “After Hours.” To hear something that harks from way back but with a modern twinge about it, check out the OurVinyl session below.


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LISTEN: The Pink Stones, “Put Me On”

Artist: The Pink Stones
Hometown: Athens, Georgia
Song: “Put Me On”
Album: Introducing…The Pink Stones
Release Date: April 6, 2021
Label: Normaltown Records

In Their Words: “‘Put Me On’ is a song I wrote a little while back, but it’s still a tune that I love a lot. It’s a pretty straightforward country tune about making yourself sick over someone, trying to get to them, and then realizing that all the signs had really been telling you to turn around and go the other way the whole time. We had some fun with this one in the studio, too. Used some groovy amps, had our buddy Jessica Thompson come in sing with me, and Wandy really got to have some fun on the B3.” — Hunter Pinkston, The Pink Stones


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BGS 5+5: Israel Nash

Artist: Israel Nash
Hometown: Dripping Springs, Texas
Newest Album: Topaz
Nickname: Izz

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Nature is a big part of my creative process. We have a ranch out here in the middle of Texas Hill Country. It’s a place like no other, surrounded by cascading hills, cedars, oaks and scrub brush, it’s a wild land really with rocks and cactus, and the sunsets are a pure psychedelic wonder. They kind of look like those Thomas Kinkade paintings that were in every dentist office in the ‘90s. Endless pink and purple pastel swirls. And the night sky is one of a kind. Dripping Springs is one of 27 designated Dark Sky cities in the entire world. Which basically means just look up at night time. It’s cosmic.

I built a studio out here where I make all of my albums and write. It has a patio and a pair of big double doors that I keep open most of the time to feel like the outside is always inside. It’s definitely a part of not only the process, but something you hear in the records I make. Magic is in nature, we take that for granted, but trees just grow and give us breath at the same time, I mean birds fly around in the air, like naturally! Gotta see the beauty in all that, be aware of it and let it be something that keeps you open.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc. — inform your music?

I think it’s important to keep up my chops through other mediums of art other than music. Taking the music hat off for a bit and working on other creative outlets can be really magical. And I always find some melodies while I’m working on that other stuff that creates a nice yearning to get back to music. It’s a cycle. Doing one always informs the other. Music will always be my main outlet, but ultimately I want to be a creator and maker of things. I want to chase inspirations wherever they lead me and bring ideas to life, adding form to the formless. Lately I’ve been working with film, from shooting/editing to finishing up this movie script I’ve been working on. Who knows? Just make stuff. That’s my mantra.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

On Topaz, I have a song called “Dividing Lines” about how divisions separate us and drives out love. Took me about two years of rewriting this song. I always had what I call the anchor, which here for me was the chorus and those words, dividing lines. But that version was completely different from one now. It just didn’t work yet. My wife is always my first line of listening and when she kind of puts her head down and is like “ummmm” I know I need to go back until I get a better response. It took two years on and off to work it out. And not because I was focused on it, rather it would pop back up in my mind and I would have a new idea to chase. Ultimately, I completely changed the verses, added a musical break and then this big outro. I finally got the head nod/wild dancing response I wanted from her, I knew it was done.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I loved music since I was a kid and took piano lessons, but I fell in love and knew my path the moment my uncle picked up a Strat and showed me “Johnny B. Goode.” Electric guitars got me. Somehow I convinced my parents to let me quit piano lessons and take guitar lessons and I got this red Strat knock off and a tiny Gorilla guitar amp. My piano lessons were at an old church lady’s house, but guitar lessons were held in the backroom of a guitar shop and the teacher would literally smoke cigarettes through the lessons!

I guess it was all slowly preparing my folks for the future with me. Music was my childhood dream, I’m talkin’ 11 years old childhood dreams. I’m proud of that and have been able to learn and grow so much. It makes me excited for the future. I think we all get a little better at things as we get older, and I mean “better” in this holistic way that encapsulates your feelings, perceptions, experiences, talents, understanding, knowledge, reflections, all that good stuff. My vision and path might have changed over time, but I’ve always been moving and chasing new places. Music has been so centric in allowing me to pursue life, learn about myself and strengthen my craft.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

To make things always that fulfill the cycle of inspiration. Be inspired > Create > Inspire Others to Create…. We can all feed off that and see where it flows. That’s what keeps me interested and moving forward, chasing inspiration. Not just expecting it to fall on my lap, but living and being among it.


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Tipping His Hat to a Hero, Charley Crockett Gives a “Lesson in Depression”

One of Texas’ brightest stars has just released new music in honor of a musical hero. Charley Crockett, the velvet-voiced monolith with a country and western sound, was a devoted student and fan of legendary Texas artist James “Slim” Hand. “If you listen to his writing style and the portraits he painted in his music, or that plaintive one of a kind voice he had, then you know he was without equal in our time,” said Crockett of the beloved singer-songwriter, who died in 2020.

To fulfill a promise made to his dear friend, Crockett released the full-length album, Lil’ G.L. Presents: 10 For Slim Charley Crockett Sings James Hand, in February. The record is a beautiful homage to a great artist, musician and Texan, and of course the music itself is performed with the highest degree of touch and style, two things for which Crockett is well-loved. Ahead of the record release, Crockett released a music video for “Lesson In Depression” that heavily features steel guitar and Crockett’s sultry baritone. Get your fix of classic country and celebrate the life and music of James Hand all while taking in the fresh yet familiar stylings of Charley Crockett.


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