Out Now: Queerfest & BGS Announce New Column with Guest Jobi Riccio

Welcome to OUT NOW! We are so excited to bring you the latest LGBTQ+ folk, roots, bluegrass, country, Americana, and indie songwriters, artists, and musicians. Who am I to guide you through the queer music industry? My name is Sara Gougeon. I founded and run Queerfest, which supports LGBTQ+ music by hosting monthly showcases and an annual festival in Nashville, promoting queer-identifying artists and creating spaces for our community. In 2022 Queerfest was named “Best New Music Festival” by The Nashville Scene.

This column is designed to amplify the voices of queer songwriters, musicians, and industry leaders. I am so excited to share just how talented, creative, and supportive the queer music industry is. We are delighted that the release of this column aligns with Pride Month, but we are even more excited to support LGBTQ+ music consistently year-round, beyond just the month of June. 

Our first artist is one that I am proud to have known for years, and I can write with undeniable confidence that their music is at the start of a career filled with national tours, stunning releases, and larger followings sure to come. 

I met the amazing Jobi Riccio in college when we were students at Berklee College of Music in Boston. They’ve come a long way since then: a record deal with Yep Roc, touring, and the move to Nashville. But I knew from day one that their music was exceptional. It is always a complete honor to promote incredible queer music. 

Jobi’s carefully crafted lyrics turn songs into movies. Melodies blend with smooth vocals, and mournful fiddle solos lift between lines. It’s the kind of music I catch myself playing for hours before noticing that I’ve fallen so deeply for a few songs that I could listen to them on repeat forever. 

And with that, I am deeply proud to present OUT NOW: Jobi Riccio.

BGS: What would a “perfect day” look like for you?

Jobi Riccio: A day spent primarily outside in the sun with those I love that ends playing songs in a living room or around a fire is really hard to beat. I also love being alone exploring nature and any day I spend hiking, biking, kayaking or doing any outdoor activity completely alone is always perfect and healing. 

Why do you create music? What’s more satisfying to you, the process or the outcome?

It depends on the day. I love performing just as much as I love songwriting and I view both as a very gratifying way to connect with myself and other people.

Do you create music primarily for yourself or for others?

I honestly don’t know. I create music when I’m feeling something big and feel I need to or have the ability to express it.  I’m not sure if it’s completely honest to say I write entirely for myself because sometimes those big feelings I’m experiencing stem from a desire to connect with others. 

Who are your favorite LGBTQ+ artists and bands?

Rufus Wainwright, Aaron Lee Tasjan, and Caroline Rose all come to mind as LGBTQ+ artists I’ve had in heavy rotation, but also those I’m lucky enough to consider friends: Liv Greene, Erin Rae, Brennan Wedl, Brittany Ann Tranbaugh, Palmyra, and Olivia Barton are all queer artists/bands I’m very inspired by. 

Is “Green Flash ” based on real feelings/experiences?

I started “Green Flash” during late spring of 2020, when I moved back home with my mom in Colorado. Lots of these existential crisis-y type thoughts were swirling in my head throughout my senior year of college, and the onset of the pandemic just sent them into overdrive. Most musicians have a fantasy of quitting music at some point and leading a “simple life” and I was caught up in that idea as I had nowhere to play and no hope of touring in the future.  Sometimes I find my songs function similar to journal entries — questions I ask myself or little prayers out into the universe — and I think “Green Flash ” functions that way.

One of the main lines in Green Flash is “I’m still learning how to trust a heart.” How do you find a balance between being open to love/vulnerability/life and not getting your heart hurt?

I love this question, I ask myself it almost everyday. More and more I’ve learned to push myself to be vulnerable and honest even when it’s scary because I might be hurt, because it’s the key to real connection with others and is where the true beauty in life lies. Learning how to be authentically myself has a lot to do with learning to trust my heart and myself, and it’s very much a daily practice. All and all, I’d rather be hurt than live in fear of being hurt. 

What are your release and touring plans for the next year? 

I am releasing my debut record, Whiplash, on September 8 and I’m extremely excited to get this body of work into the world. I’ll be touring around the record this year and next! 


Photo of Jobi Riccio: Monica Murray

6 Times Tanya Tucker Showed Us What Pride Is All About

Just in time for Pride Month, singer-songwriter Tanya Tucker released her new album, Sweet Western Sound, with Fantasy Records, marking the Country Music Hall of Fame inductee’s 26th solo studio record. Tucker is an American country icon, having landed her first hit single in 1972 at the age of 13 with “Delta Dawn.”

Tucker has long supported the LGBTQ+ community and queer equality, and Sweet Western Sound hits many of the same notes. The record was produced by Shooter Jennings and Brandi Carlile, the openly lesbian, roots music singer-songwriter and producer who is the only woman to receive two Grammy nominations for Song of the Year in a single year. Tucker has also collab’ed with drag queen and TV legend RuPaul and performed for GLAAD and Nashville Pride.

To celebrate her inclusivity and the new record, we’re counting down some of her most memorable – and most fabulous – stage performances and duets.

Tanya at Nashville Pride 2022 

Is there anything better than rainbows, bedazzled tassels, and feathers? Absolutely not! And Tucker brought all three in her spectacular outfit at Nashville, Tennessee’s Pride celebration in 2022. Tucker sang “If It Don’t Come Easy” on stage during the celebration and was joined by multiple drag queens wearing rainbow tees emblazoned with “Tanya Mother Tucker.” Guests during her set included her dog and her daughter; the two sang Merle Haggard’s apropos “The Way I Am.”

Tanya Shows Some “Kindness”

Tucker’s latest album features a track called “Kindness,” a country-western crooner that encourages us to be a little nicer to those around us. “I found glory in the ruin of the best laid plans,” Tucker sings. “There were times tomorrow felt so far away. It seemed as though the bitterness was here to stay. I’ve pushed down on my anger through my tears.”

The tune is a good reminder we never know what someone else is going through, and that we could all be a little softer because of it.

Tanya and RuPaul Declare “This Is Our Country”

In a totally unexpected, but absolutely harmonious collab, Tucker and RuPaul teamed up in 2021 to release a duet called “This Is Our Country,” a genre-bending blend of country and pop that celebrates inclusion and equality.

“I can be a queen or I can be a cowboy,” RuPual sings.

“Love is the answer, love always wins,” Tanya adds.

The lyrics state firmly that our country is big enough for all its diverse communities and features more than a few of RuPaul’s rap bars. The video performance features some of Drag Race’s most popular queen and contestants, as well as a couple cute, shirtless cowboys.

Tanya In the Moment With “Bring My Flowers Now”

Co-written by Tucker and Carlile — as well as twins Tim and Phil Hanseroth — “Bring My Flowers Now” is a call to show our love and appreciation for friends and family before they’ve passed away. The tune is from her 2019 album While I’m Livin’, also produced by Carlile and Jennings. In the song, Tucker reminds us there are “rainbows, sunshine, and babies” to celebrate in this life, and that we shouldn’t wait until it’s too late. The simple, slow track features a piano instrumental and Tucker’s iconic vocals — perfect for a gentle moment with the ones we cherish most.

Tanya and Brandi Have “Breakfast In Birmingham”

If it’s a classic country duet you’re craving, Tucker and Carlile’s duet on the new album is just the ticket. “Breakfast In Birmingham” features both singers’ warm, soulful vocals and paints a picture of the city’s past with descriptions of hippies, cheap gas, and crispy-fried bacon. There’s also mention of “shutting down the rebel history,” a reminder that there’s a lot to celebrate and remember this Pride.

Tanya’s First Hit, “Delta Dawn”


This would be no list of Tanya Tucker’s best moments without reaching back to her roots. “Delta Dawn” was Tucker’s first hit, and this 2019 performance at The Troubadour features her famous key change as well as beautiful dobro and electric guitar licks.

Around the 2:40 mark, Tucker pauses her singing to let the audience fill in the words and they don’t miss a beat. This tune is always worth a listen and is one of Tucker’s best-known singles.

Whether you’re a fan old or new, Tucker’s got something for everyone — including a message of equality for all. There’s almost no better country singer ally to revisit during Pride Month.


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The Show On The Road – Durand Jones

This week, we dive into the revelatory first solo record from rising Louisiana-born roots-soul singer-songwriter Durand Jones. Wait Til I Get Over is years in the making. While nearly giving up on his dream to be a singer several times, Jones was diligently collecting songs about his upbringing living in his father’s trailer in the tiny Mississippi River town of Hillaryville, his grandmother giving him the confidence to sing (and also dragging him to church), escaping broken relationships and infidelity, his yearning for a connection to a higher power, and how betting on the music and himself was a jubilant radical act that just may be finally paying off.

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The lush strings and almost Broadway-ready power of his voice on the opener “Gerri Marie” harken back to a time when artists like Marvin Gaye and Aretha Franklin were creating cutting-edge pop and soul music that could at once get you to hit the streets to protest injustice and woo your new love with total abandon.

Most folks may know Jones as one of the co-lead singers with falsetto-master (and drummer) Adam Frazer of the Bloomington, IN-based throwback “sweet soul” group Durand Jones & The Indications, a project he began out of graduate school (he also plays the saxophone) at The University of Indiana. Starting with their hard-hitting 2018 self-titled record and the follow ups American Love Call (2019) and Private Space (2021), they became a coveted national act and AAA radio favorite, with this writer seeing their biggest show yet, last summer at the Hollywood Bowl in L.A. You would be forgiven if you thought the club-ready romantic earworm “Witchoo” dropped in 1971 not in the height of the pandemic — but the unrestrained Chaka Khan-esque vibes are hard to deny. As I told Jones, that tune got me through a very hard time.

While Jones admits he likes to play a certain version of himself on stage — flamboyant outfits and soaring vocal runs are what keep audiences coming back — at home, he’s a much more introspective character who is a big fan of journaling. It’s the quieter, more vulnerable sides of his story (being queer in the Deep South for one), and the complicated figures like “Sadie” (not her real name) that he renders in full cinematic detail that point to a powerful solo career ahead if he wants it.


Photo credit: Rahim Fortune

LISTEN: Katie Dahl, “Sacristy”

Artist: Katie Dahl
Hometown: Baileys Harbor, Wisconsin
Song: “Sacristy”
Album: Seven Stones
Release Date: June 2, 2023
Label: Leaky Boat Records

In Their Words: “I grew up as a queer kid in a very Baptist family — I am the daughter, granddaughter, and niece of Baptist pastors, seminary professors, and missionaries. I was deeply involved in my church during high school, when I started to feel my queerness more fully. There were so many dissonant moments — like the deep crush I had on my church camp counselor, and the strange longing I felt when I heard her chapel sermon about ‘the evils of homosexuality.’ When I went to college and began to explore who I really was, it dawned on me that I wasn’t the only queer kid in my church youth group. I wished we had known about one another in high school — we might not have felt so alone.

“I wrote ‘Sacristy’ as a fable, imagining what life could have been like if we had been given the grace and the space to help each other along, and celebrating the ‘water from our own well’ that we eventually found anyway. I love what Julie Wolf did in producing this song: how triumphant and grounded the bass and drums are; how Julie’s organ and piano parts soar; the way the mandola, banjo, and fiddle keep the song rolling; and the quirky, unexpected background vocals by Nini Camps and Vicki Randle. Plus, we had a really fun time recording the hand claps!” — Katie Dahl

Katie Dahl · Sacristy

Photo Credit: Kelly Nicolaisen

LISTEN: Izzy Heltai, “Running Out”

Artist: Izzy Heltai
Hometown: Boston, now Nashville
Single: “Running Out”
Release Date: February 24, 2023

In Their Words: “‘Running Out’ is a song about feeling lucky for the first time maybe ever. I know that sounds pretty dramatic, but if I’m not allowed to be dramatic in my songs then I don’t know when I ever will be. I had felt stuck for a while and when I wrote ‘Running Out’ I was beginning to feel like the tides were turning in my favor; things were happening, I was excited. ‘Running Out’ was written primarily as a tool for me to try and stay present in the good things that were beginning to happen. Ironically, I’m releasing a song that mentions both ‘running’ and ‘good luck’ in the same week I literally broke my hip.” — Izzy Heltai


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Basic Folk – Eliza Edens

Growing up in the Berkshires, Massachusetts-born Eliza Edens grew up in a family with strong musical roots. Getting her first guitar at 16, she was moved to write songs as her chosen form of expression. After some time in Philly, Eliza took on New York, choosing Brooklyn as her home base. There she found community and began to thrive creatively, especially in embracing her queer identity, Eliza uses she/they pronouns.

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She released her second album We’ll Become the Flowers in 2022 seeking to understand what happens after the end. She had a lot of processing to do after a breakup and her mother being diagnosed with a neurodegenerative disease. Her mother has been a central figure in her songwriting recently, especially in her love of gardening and flowers. Eliza’s music, like the person, is thoughtful, unpredictable, serious and silly. Hope you enjoy getting to know this cool musician!


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Folk Alliance International 2023: Valerie June, Mary Gauthier, Janis Ian, and More

This week in Kansas City, Folk Alliance International beckons to those people who love intimate songwriting, intentional activism, and interesting interactions at every turn. The Bluegrass Situation will be on the ground with hundreds of other music fans and performers, seeking out new talent and engaging with the legends. Here are some of the moments we’re most looking forward to.

First-Timers Orientation
Wednesday, February 1 at 3 pm

Pretty much everything related to this conference–from the trade show to the showcases–takes place inside the Westin Hotel, so you’ll find yourself squishing into elevators with the same faces throughout the five-day event. The inevitable question is, “What are you going to see next?” That’s up to you, of course, but this mixer will help you make a game plan to maximize your time at Folk Alliance. Sure, it can be intimidating at first. But once you get used to it, it’s also one of the most welcoming events in the music industry.


International Folk Music Awards
Wednesday, February 1 at 8 pm

One of the most popular gatherings of the week, the International Folk Music Awards recognize the achievements of the past year as well as the accomplishments of the genre’s icons. Leyla McCalla and the Milk Carton Kids are among the confirmed performers. Take a look at the nominees and special award recipients and enjoy an evening of wonderful speeches and song.


Black American Music Summit
Wednesday, February 1 at 4 pm
Thursday, February 2 at 11:30 am
Friday, February 3 at 12 pm
Saturday, February 4 at 12 pm

Black artists and industry members will confer about ways to empower one another with daily conversations during this four-day summit. The first session on Wednesday is subtitled “Setting the Tone,” while Thursday tackles the theme of “It Takes a Village,” which helps leaders learn how to lean on others to grow their business. On Friday, the topic is “Money Matters,” with tips on identifying revenue streams and best practices for touring, applicable to artists and industry alike. The final installment on Saturday explores the vast and ever-changing modern landscape of Black Music with a two-hour program subtitled “Lifting the Gaze.”


Valerie June Keynote Address and Artist in Residence
Thursday, February 2 at 1:30 pm

Tennessee native Valerie June is one of the most versatile figures in roots music, with her creative output ranging from Grammy-nominated albums to a new children’s book. Her afternoon keynote address is likely to touch on some of her favorite themes, such as finding joy, mindfulness, and communing with Mother Nature. Prior to her appearance, the conference will host a presentation from its Artist in Residence. Cary Morin will speak about his experiences with Friends of the Kaw, a grassroots organization dedicated to protecting the Kaw River (also known as the Kansas River). He will also sing a song written about the experience.


The Queer Pulse of Society: A Conversation About Community and Social Sustainability
Friday, February 3 at 10 am

This conversation presented by Bluegrass Pride will offer insight from performers and industry professionals about their interactions in the music community. Topics include intersectionality, identity politics, and socially sustainable models of business. The discussion will be led by Lillian Werbin (president and co-owner of Elderly Instruments), Marcy Marxer (a prolific recording artist in children’s music), and Sara Gougeon (founder of Queerfest and part of the FAI social media and marketing team).


Mary Gauthier: Saved by a Song
Friday, February 3 at 2 pm

Mary Gauthier shared her highs and lows of her path in her thought-provoking memoir, Saved by a Song: The Art and Healing Power of Songwriting. In this special interview session at Folk Alliance, she will describe how songwriting can bring people together, even when it seems that they have nothing in common. If you’re looking for wisdom and insight from one of our most masterful artists, don’t miss this one. The interview will be conducted by folk radio personality Marilyn Rea Breyer.


CommUNITY Gathering: Meet the Team
Saturday, February 4 at 9:30 am

It should be clear by now that Folk Alliance has an approachable vibe. That extends all the way to the organization’s leadership. All delegates at the conference are invited to this gathering that features new executive director Neeta Ragoowansi and new board president Ashley Shabanakareh. After a few remarks, there’s a casual meet-and-greet. BGS executive director Amy Reitnouer Jacobs will also be on hand, alongside Folk Alliance deputy director Jennifer Roe. Yes, we know it’s early, but there’s coffee!


Janis Ian: In Her Own Words
Saturday, February 4 at 10:45 am

The enduring singer-songwriter known for “Society’s Child” and “At Seventeen” is now in the twilight of her career. An unusual case of laryngitis forced her to cancel her farewell tour but it hasn’t dimmed her status in the folk community. She’s revered for her way with words and her honesty, not to mention six decades on stages around the world. Her final album, The Light at the End of the Line, is a proper coda to her recording career but you can expect this informal chat to survey her full career. Stick around for a Q&A after the talk.


Songs of Hope, Songs of Change
Sunday, February 5 at 10 am

By now, you’ve made new friends, discovered amazing artists, and stayed up waaay later than usual. Congrats! Close out the event with this grassroots multi-artist concert featuring songs written about climate and social justice written by FAI artists. Hosted by the People’s Music Network, the event is intended to rally the activist in all of us. As the (highly recommended) Folk Alliance 2023 app says, “Come lend your ear and lift your voice at this Sunday morning event, as our community collectively and creatively engages with messaging and meaning that will inspire us all.”


Janis Ian Shines on Grammy-Nominated Final Album, ‘Light at the End of the Line’

That old adage about God laughing at the plans of meager humans hit home in bittersweet fashion for Janis Ian. The legendary singer-songwriter was in the midst of an incredible victory lap: Her stunning studio album The Light at the End of the Line, released early in 2022, received critical accolades, nabbed a Grammy nomination for Best Folk Album, and ushered in a Lifetime Achievement Award from Folk Alliance International. She had begun a final tour when a spring bout of laryngitis led to a diagnosis of vocal fold scarring, a condition that would make live performances impossible and forced the cancellation of her remaining tour dates.

When Ian spoke to BGS last month, her speaking voice was clear and cheerful, even when recounting the tough break mentioned above. She had plenty of reasons for hope and happiness anyway, as she talked about the recording of and response to The Light at the End of the Line, a newly remastered CD version of her classic 1975 album Between the Lines, and other memories of her monumental career in music.

BGS: First of all, how are you feeling, with regard to your vocal cord injury?

Janis Ian: It’s a little weird. I wouldn’t have expected that I’d be forced to stop. The plan was always that I would go on and sing until May 31, 2023, and then close out with a big concert in Dublin, have all my friends join me for a documentary they’re making about me, and then do one-offs with my friends. To suddenly not be able to do any of that, I’m still in shock, but I’m getting through.

Well, if The Light at the End of the Line is your last album, you certainly went out on a high note. There is such ease about the record and a sense of grace.

I love to hear that. A sense of grace.

Did it feel that easy making it, or was there pressure knowing that it was the last album?

I didn’t think about it being the last album until I started looking at the list of songs and realized that it had been 15 years since the last one. I kept a whiteboard of songs that I thought were really good, that lived up to the mark. One day I looked at it, and I added one song and I thought, “All I’m missing is the title song now.” From there, this one probably fell into place more easily than anything I’ve ever done.

I put off writing the title song as long as I could because I didn’t want to write a farewell song. And I wanted to walk that thin line between saying thank you and being maudlin. The song was in scraps of paper all over the house. My wife kept going around the house picking them up worried that I would throw them out. The idea for the bridge was on the back of a paper plate. I wrote it down and she kept saying, “Please don’t eat off this now.” When I looked up, I had an album of first-take vocals. So that feels really good too. Given what’s happened to my voice, it’s nice to know that at that point, the first take was the final take.

I’ve read in other interviews that you normally don’t set out to write a song with a predetermined topic in mind.

Pretty rare.

But because you intended this to be your last record, were there certain topics that you wanted to hit?

I felt like it was important to step out. It was important to be brave. It was important to have a song like “Resist” on there. It was also important to be hopeful and have something like “Better Times Will Come.” I really wanted to walk the thin line between those two, between everything has got to start changing and yet it’s hopeful.

You mentioned “Resist,” and to me, the honesty and fearlessness of that song harken back to “Society’s Child.” I was looking up videos of you performing it back when it was released. In one, you’re introduced by Leonard Bernstein, who gushes over the brilliance of the song. In another, it’s on The Smothers Brothers Show and they’re joined by Jimmy Durante in introducing it! Can you wrap your head around the longevity you’ve had in the music world, from that song being released in 1966 to a Grammy nomination in 2022?

You know, I went to my throat doctor for a follow-up yesterday, and he said to me, “58 years is an incredible run. Most artists, it’s 15 years until their voice goes.” I thought about that and the line that I always heard from fans on tour was “Gosh, you sound just like you’ve always sounded.”

How much has the reaction to the album meant to you, not just from critics, the Folk Alliance, and the Grammys, but also from fans?

I have a pretty personal relationship with my fans. I learned after “Society’s Child” not to be afraid of them. Up until COVID, I stayed after every show to sign and to meet people. I always emphasized you don’t have to buy anything to say hello or to get a hug. And I really saw what songs like “At Seventeen” meant to them. It’s very moving. So, to put out something like this and have the fans rooting for me, it’s pretty great. I remember on Facebook when I did the announcement about canceling the tour, it killed me. We were all set, and there I was saying there’s not going to be a tour and there aren’t going to be makeup dates. When I announced it, I expected blowback. I expected people to be annoyed. I was shocked. I had 10,000 positive responses.

A lot of those fans have followed you through the years, with your music accompanying them in different stages of their life. Was that the thought process behind including a song like “A Light at the End of the Line,” to address yet another stage?

The interesting thing about that song and “I’m Still Standing” is that I thought those songs were for people 50 and over, people of my generation. The most feedback I’ve gotten has been from people 15 to 25 years old. The first time I sang “I’m Still Standing” was for two other songwriters aged 19 and 20. And the woman started crying. I said, “You can’t possibly relate to this.” She said, “This is the story of my life. You just told what I’ve been going through.” There’s a lot to be said, as a writer, for keeping in mind that you don’t know what you’re talking about. (laughing)

Switching gears to the reissue of Between the Lines, that album possesses such variety in terms of musical styles. It is far from a typical “singer-songwriter” record in that respect. How important was it to be able to put out a remastered version that captures those original sounds?

I got control of the record everywhere but North America. I started talking to Sony and basically said, “You’ve been using the same thing that you had out in 1983. Please let me go in and remaster. I’ll pay for it. Give me permission.” That was part of why I brought in Brooks Arthur. (Arthur passed away this past October after working on the reissue.) He was the original producer/engineer. At the time he was running Adam Sandler’s music business. Bringing in Brooks was like saying, “I’m not throwing it out. I’m not getting rid of what was there.” But I wanted to know what would have happened if Brooks had worked with this kind of equipment. And that’s what we did.

You can’t take away that it was recorded in 914 Studios (in Blauvelt, New York) that was held together with spit and glue. The best kind of studios are. They’re the least fancy. But you could take advantage of things like being able to remember mixes. It was great to be able to remaster it and feel like finally the CD was commensurate with what the album had been.

Did you feel at that time you were pushing boundaries with a radio song like “At Seventeen,” and did anyone ever try to rein that in for commercial reasons?

I think by then that I didn’t really care what anybody else thought. (laughing) There was pressure on it. I threw my then-manager out of the session because she kept saying that I was destroying a potential hit. Brooks and I had absolute faith in the song and so did every musician who played it. There was some pressure from the record company to drop the second verse and make it a three-minute song. But instead, Brooks did that brilliant little Bucky Pizzarelli guitar lick and made it a single.

Do you remember writing that opening line “I learned the truth at seventeen,” and did you immediately feel like you had something special?

Absolutely. That was one of maybe three songs in my life where I thought, “I think I’ve written a radio-friendly song.” That’s not my forte. People like Diane Warren, they do that without even thinking. It’s a real talent that I don’t happen to have. But I knew from that first line that I was onto something special. It was really scary. I didn’t want to blow it.

You plan to focus your artistic impulses on other endeavors besides music, but what happens if something pops into your head and heart and wants to be a song?

Fortunately for me, I notate. There’s still always music running in my head. That hasn’t changed. I could probably limp through a demo and make myself understood enough to send it to another artist. It’s just I can’t hold my pitch for an extended period, which means I can’t do two or three songs in a row. And my voice gets gravelly without warning. At that point, I’m Tom Waits. OK, there are worse things to be.

Is there one aspect of your career of which you’re the proudest?

That’s a good question. I think recognition from other artists. Because really, that’s the mark you try to hit. Leonard Cohen loved my work. And Leonard is the mark that you’re trying to hit if you’re me as a songwriter. Ella Fitzgerald thought I was a great singer. That’s a mark you try to hit. The people who I work with and whose records I grew up with, people like Joan Baez. Joan never goes anywhere these days but she came to my last show in Berkeley. She came backstage and said, “So you’re really doing it?” And I said, “Yep, this is the last tour.” That somebody like Joan cared enough to call me when she heard that I was having vocal problems, that’s meaningful to me.

And that’s not to denigrate the fans, because clearly they’ve meant a great deal to me and they’ve been really good to me and understanding. It’s the fans that raised all that money, $1.3 million, for the Pearl Foundation (a charity Ian founded with her wife Patricia Snyder) because I couldn’t raise all that on my own. But for me, the highlights are the fun I’ve had with other performers. Playing guitar, playing lead guitar with somebody like Tommy Emmanuel. Walking on stage with somebody like Chet Atkins and Michael Hedges. Those are amazing memories.

Thanks so much, Janis. I have to say I’ve never done an interview that encompassed both Leonard Bernstein and Adam Sandler.

That’s a good span! (laughing)


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WATCH: Mya Byrne, “It Don’t Fade”

Artist: Mya Byrne
Hometown: San Francisco, California
Song: “It Don’t Fade”
Album: Rhinestone Tomboy (produced by Aaron Lee Tasjan)
Release Date: April 28, 2023
Label: Kill Rock Stars

In Their Words: “‘It Don’t Fade’ came to me while walking down the street in my neighborhood in Berkeley, California, and I improvised the lyric and melody almost entirely as it is into my phone recorder. It was the height of the pandemic, and I was feeling wistful and thinking about the threads that tie us together, about my family, who I was so very far away from at that time, and my recovery, which was only a few months in – how even in our hardest moments there might be sunshine somewhere. Hope is a hard thing to find, and I’ve had some hard times, but the music I make helps me get through, and this song has gotten me through so much.” — Mya Byrne

“Using my skills as a producer to help create a path for Mya to succeed was something I felt called to do in my soul. If our goal as a society is to become softer, more loving and more accepting of each other, we need artists like Mya Byrne, who possesses these qualities, to help lead us on our mission.” — Aaron Lee Tasjan


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LISTEN: Olive Klug, “Out of Line”

Artist: Olive Klug (they/them)
Hometown: Portland, Oregon
Song: “Out of Line”
Release Date: November 18, 2022
Label: Nettwerk

In Their Words: “‘Out of Line’ is a song about unlearning the rules you’ve been taught and deciding to write your own. Throughout childhood, we’re told the right way to do things, the right way to ‘stay in line’ and follow the rules, and that if we do this we’ll be rewarded. This extends through high school, and then college, and then into your adult life: get good grades, get into a good college, and then get a good job, get married and you’ll live the American Dream.

“Once I finished college right before 2020 and it was finally up to me to write the story of my own life, I realized this whole narrative was bs and it all came crashing down. I came into adulthood in a world where the president was a racist, homophobic misogynist, and a global pandemic completely changed the way of life we had all grown accustomed to. Once things started to change toward the end of 2021 when I wrote this song, I didn’t want to go back to normal.

“My worldview had completely shifted and I wanted to get out of this narrative I’d previously subscribed to. I was done waiting, I wanted to get ‘Out of Line.'” — Olive Klug


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