BGS & Come Hear NC Explore the Musical History of North Carolina in New Podcast ‘Carolina Calling’

The Bluegrass Situation is excited to announce a partnership with Come Hear North Carolina, and the latest addition to the BGS Podcast Network, in Carolina Calling: a podcast exploring the history of North Carolina through its music and the musicians who made it. The state’s rich musical history has influenced the musical styles of the U.S. and beyond, and Carolina Calling aims to connect the roots of these progressions and uncover the spark in these artistic communities. From Asheville to Wilmington, we’ll be diving into the cities and regions that have cultivated decades of talent as diverse as Blind Boy Fuller to the Steep Canyon Rangers, from Robert Moog to James Taylor and Rhiannon Giddens.

The series’ first episode, focusing on the creative spirit of retreat in Asheville, premieres Monday, January 31 and features the likes of Pokey LaFarge, Woody Platt of the Steep Canyon Rangers, Gar Ragland of Citizen Vinyl, and more. Subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts, and be on the lookout for brand new episodes coming soon.

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WATCH: Danny Burns & Steve Earle, “Mercenary Song”

Artists: Danny Burns & Steve Earle
Song: “Mercenary Song”
Album: Hurricane EP
Label: Bonfire Music Group

In Their Words: “We cut ‘Mercenary Song’ before the pandemic, and I had reached out to Steve and he really dug our arrangement. I had my pal Colin Farrell (of Lunasa, not the actor) add a fiddle tune into the middle parts and then thought it would be cool to add some Tex-Mex vibes on accordion. So we asked Michael Guerra from The Mavericks to add some accordion and he blew the doors off it. Then, Chris Masterson of The Mastersons and The Dukes added bari Tele and it all came together nicely. We also added Josh Day on drums, Byron House on upright bass, and Matt Menefee on banjo, mando and dobro. Finally, Steve added his bouzouki in the mix in a bajo sexto vibe.

“We thought it would be cool to shoot a video in NYC at the Dead Rabbit Irish pub. Sean Muldoon, one of the owners who’s from Belfast, was a great host. I recruited director Jim Wright into the project. We had been threatening to work together for few years now, and Steve was up for it and lives pretty close. So we just hung out, talked music and guitars, Ireland, and Irish breakfasts for a day and shot it upstairs at the Rabbit.” — Danny Burns


Photo Credit: Jim Wright

LISTEN: Penny & Sparrow, “Cheyenne”

Artist: Penny & Sparrow
Hometown: Florence, Alabama / Waco, Texas
Song: “Cheyenne”
Album: Olly Olly
Release Date: January 21, 2022
Label: I Love You distributed by Thirty Tigers

In Their Words: “‘Cheyenne’ is a classic murder ballad with all the fixins… We got hammocks, bathtub erotica, country music references, a nod to old trucks, and a kinky/melancholy twist-ending. Also, if you stick around for the very end, you’re gonna hear the tastiest pedal steel solo we’ve ever put on a tune. Drink deep my baby.” — Kyle Jahnke and Andy Baxter, Penny & Sparrow


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Finding Inspiration in Creation, Ellie Holcomb Moves Forward in Love

As a consequence of growing up in the music industry and singing background vocals on albums since she was 8, Ellie Holcomb opted not to seek a future as a professional singer.

“I actually decided that I didn’t want to be a part of it at an early age, which is hilarious,” says Holcomb, who today has a thriving career as a Christian music singer and also records and performs with her husband, Drew Holcomb. It amounts to two separate careers, with her solo music tending towards inspirational anthems and the duo producing a more intimate Americana sound. Ellie’s powerful voice is equally adept at belting out a dramatic ballad or giving a more tender, reserved performance.

Ellie’s father is producer Brown Bannister, who produced albums by Amy Grant and many other Christian singers. He now runs the music school at Lipscomb University in Nashville.

“I was around a lot of people who did this for their work,” she says. “I’m so grateful because I saw from a really young age the power of music to encourage, to bring hope and to help people feel less alone. But I also saw the cost of doing music, like you have to leave. It’s often really hard on families.”

For our Artist of the Month interview, Ellie fielded questions from BGS as she and Drew drove to Chattanooga for a performance. (Read our Artist of the Month interview with Drew.)

BGS: You’ve got a powerful voice. When did you first realize that?

Oh, thank you. I guess from a pretty young age. I was singing in studios with my dad. When the budget ran out, I would come and be the background singer on whatever project he was working on.

What a great way to get experience.

I’ve kind of learned from the best in terms of how to become a singer. But I think even on this last record (Canyon, 2021), there were parts of my voice that I didn’t really know were there. As I’ve gotten older, there’s been this other realm that I’ve tapped into. It feels like painting with more colors. That’s been really fun, to realize I have this whole other set of tones and colors and textures that I didn’t realize in my voice.

Who are some of the artists you worked with as a child?

I sang on (Amy Grant’s) Home for Christmas as a little 8-year-old girl. It’s kind of hard to imagine artists in the Christian world that I haven’t sung with. I’ve done Sandi Patty back in the day, Steven Curtis Chapman, Matthew West, Charlie Peacock, Mercy Me, Bart Millard. It’s hilarious because there will be songs I’m hearing and I’m like, “Oh, it’s me. I forgot I sang on that.”

How do you and Drew differ in your music tastes?

It’s interesting. We have a lot of overlap in what we love. He grew up listening to Bob Dylan and Van Morrison. When I grew up, my dad was making records with Amy Grant. I love Sara Groves. Then we both love Carole King. He leans a little more into the rock land, and I lean more singer-songwriter.

You have young children (Emmylou, 9; Huck, 6; and Rivers, 3). Is touring difficult for you and Drew because of that?

I feel like we found a really beautiful way to kind of blend all that together. We bring the kids on the road a lot and we tour together and apart. So we kind of have a crazy schedule. But thankfully, Drew is a logistical ninja. He’s really good at keeping tabs on where everybody is and childcare. We’ve got a village of people that have come around us. We just keep getting family members and nannies (to help). It just feels like when they have to move on, we have another aunt in the arsenal. So we have been very blessed to have family and friends and incredible nannies come alongside of us as we do this crazy music life.

You quit your husband’s band (Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors) after seven years in 2012, and then pursued a solo career. What brought that about?

I’d actually quit Drew’s band to be a stay-at-home mom. Our daughter was in a car seat for over eight hours a day. By the time she was six months, she’d been to 32 states and Canada. And I’m like, “I don’t think I can keep her in a car seat for seven hours a day, poor thing.” So I quit to do the mom thing.

How did that morph into launching a solo career?

It was hilarious. I kept trying to write songs for his band. But often when I would sit down to write a song, I would say, “Drew, I’m so sorry, I accidentally wrote another song about God.” I didn’t mean to, but I’m just a spiritual person. I don’t fully understand everything, and I feel really comfortable in a lot of the mystery, but that is something that my heart has always been drawn to. And so I loved what Drew’s response was. He was like, “Hey, write what’s in you. Let those songs out.”

When he said that, it lit a fire within me. I don’t know that I needed permission from him, but all of a sudden I just felt this freedom to sing what was in my heart. That’s usually me saying, “I believe, but help my unbelief.” I’m usually wrestling my faith to the ground. I’m working my faith out through song. I guess the songs were helping me find some semblance of peace and comfort and solace. So I thought, “Man, maybe they’d help somebody else. That’d be cool.”

Does the divisiveness going on now in the U.S. tempt you to write political songs?

I don’t know that it does. I feel called to move forward in love, and I guess sometimes that will intersect, politically speaking, in terms of using your voice to speak up on behalf of those who maybe don’t have a voice. That can look political at times. But I think for me, I’m less motivated by politics and more motivated by love and peacemaking. But sometimes to make peace, you’ve got to tell the truth.

Many of your solo videos are filmed with spectacular nature backgrounds. Why do you return to that approach so often?

It’s very intentional because creation itself is one of the ways that I experience God most. I feel like the story of love beating death is written all over creation. When the (coronavirus) numbers were low, we did a trip where we went down into the Grand Canyon, rafted the Colorado River, spent the night on the riverbanks and then rafted out. While we were down there, a guide was telling us that in the Grand Canyon, the walls really tell a story. It’s actually a story of disaster upon disaster: landslide, mudslide, volcano, earthquake, flood, drought. Then there’s this great divide split wide open by a river, and I thought, this just looks like a picture of literally all of our hearts, especially after the last two years. There is a current of love that runs deeper than our deepest ache, pain or longing that will carry us back to a place where we can know that we’re beloved, no matter how broken we are. I’m like, “All right, let’s get in a place where I’m reminded of that. Maybe it’ll remind other people of that.”

You’ve spoken on stage about seeking help for depression and anxiety. Why did you decide to do that?

I want everybody to know how precious they are. I want to remember it myself and I want kids to know that. So it’s been a joy to speak openly about depression and anxiety and worry and fear and division and to say, these are all real things in a broken world. But we’re invited to be hope-people and bridge-building people and people who are about reconciliation and love. I really love getting to come stumbling and tripping and broken and full of doubt and fear sometimes into the presence of love. And I will happily hobble my way into that presence over and over again and invite others to come along with me.


Photo Credit: Ashtin Paige

WATCH: Robin and Linda Williams, “Old Lovers Waltz”

Artist: Robin and Linda Williams
Hometown: Staunton, Virginia
Song: “Old Lovers Waltz”
Album: A Better Day A-Coming
Label: Oakenwold Recordings

In Their Words: “‘Old Lovers Waltz’ is one of our favorite songs off the A Better Day A-Coming release. It has personal meaning to the two of us, and we think Deep Structure Productions did an excellent job of producing the video. The ‘old Robin and Linda/young Robin and Linda’ idea, based around the banjo painting, was their vision, and they did a great job making the concept of a lifetime partnership come to life in four minutes. Their video captured the essence of our song. We wrote this after being married for 46 years. It’s not essential to be married that long to write such a song. You might be able to do it after only 30 or 35 years. ‘When you’re gliding with ease and stepping light/Then the Old Lovers Waltz, you are doing it right.'” — Robin and Linda Williams


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WATCH: Meg McRee, Adam Chaffins, Brit Taylor, Ben Chapman, “Gone as It Gets”

Artists: Meg McRee, Adam Chaffins, Brit Taylor, Ben Chapman
Hometowns: Sugar Hill, Ga. (McRee); Louisa, Ky. (Chaffins); Knotts Co., Ky. (Taylor); Lafayette, Ga. (Chapman)
Song: “Gone as It Gets”
Release date: January 12, 2022

In Their Words: “I can hear each and every one of us in it which can be very hard to accomplish when writing a song with four people. We all listened back the next day and felt that we had created something pretty special.” — Meg McRee

“Sometimes in songwriting you can tell a good song is about to come just by the company in the room. Once the groove got started when we all sat down together this song just appeared, then we got together to record it and and the same thing happened and the track came to life.” — Adam Chaffins

“‘Gone as It Gets’ is a melodic journey taken by four friends who got together just to make music. There was no hidden agenda — just a shared commitment to enjoying each other’s company and talents while having a good time and making good music. ‘Gone as It Gets’ is confirmation that when the music business becomes more music and less business, the really good stuff happens.” — Brit Taylor

“We found that when you put four songwriters in a room with homemade cornbread, whiskey, and a mutual respect for the ones that came before, you can end up with something pretty special. Organic, classic, timeless. We’re releasing this song in honor of the first Peach Jam of the year with Adam Chaffins and Brit Taylor as the special guests. I started doing my Peach Jam show in 2021 with the intention of bringing friends and music folk together to turn on, tune in, and drop out. This year I’ll be hosting my Peach Jam residency at The Basement in Nashville on the second Wednesday of every month for all of 2022. Can’t think of a better way to kick it off.” — Ben Chapman


Photo Credit: Fernando Garcia

MIXTAPE: Luke Sital-Singh’s Playlist of Sublime Lyrics and Amazing Stories

I’ve always been a lyrics guy at heart. Although more recently my opinion on what constitutes a great lyric has evolved from my younger days, for example I’m now much more open to experimental and abstract lyricism, but I still love a song that has a clear story to it. I know lyrics aren’t that important to a lot of people, and in today’s playlist driven world where background music is king perhaps lyrics are less key than ever. By way of protest then, here is a set of songs that I think have sublime lyrics and tell amazing stories. — Luke Sital-Singh

Josh Ritter – “The Temptation of Adam”

I couldn’t start anywhere but this song. Josh Ritter is one of the best lyricists of the modern era. His songs really are mini novels and in fact he’s gone on to publish two actual novels. If you don’t find this song about two people falling in love in an underground missile silo utterly compelling, well, I don’t even want to know you.

Eagles – “Hotel California”

I feel like this tune is so ingrained in culture that it’s hard to appreciate that it didn’t always exist. It had to be thought up. Those guys actually wrote these lyrics one day! Driving around LA this song is always on the radio and I’ve been appreciating the genius of the storytelling anew and of course the guitar solo, which I tried to learn when I started playing guitar. Still can’t do it.

Johnny Cash – “A Boy Named Sue”

I think this was one of the first Johnny Cash songs I ever heard. I was told to listen to it to appreciate the story and it’s still one of my favourites. So much wit and still so funny.

Leonard Cohen – “Famous Blue Raincoat”

No talk of lyrics is complete without a mention of Mr Cohen of course. I love this retelling of the biblical story of Cain and Abel. A love triangle turning murderous and all written as a letter, with an M. Night Shyamalan twist to top it off (the singer is dead all along).

Sun Kil Moon – “Carissa”

I could have picked any song from this particular Sun Kil Moon record, but this one gets me the most. Mark Kozelek writes lyrics like he’s just on the other end of the phone, telling you something devastating but making you feel grateful for what you have all along.

Josh Ritter – “The Curse”

Well, I couldn’t just include one Josh Ritter song. He has too many of these masterpieces that mean too much to me. This one might be my favourite. The story of an archaeologist who discovers a mummy, the mummy comes back to life, they fall in love, but it doesn’t end that well. Sounds ridiculous but it’s incredible.

Anaïs Mitchell – “The Shepherd”

A modern-day folk ballad that feels like it’s been around for centuries. It’s a heartbreaking story of loss but oh so beautiful.

Big Thief – “Mary”

Ok this one doesn’t fit the mould as much. I have literally no idea what this is about, but there are so many incredible lyrical images in this song I just had to include it. One of my favourite lyrical songs of all time.

Bob Dylan – “Hurricane”

One of Dylan’s best protest songs in my book. The true story of Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter, falsely accused of murder because of his race. Pretty depressing that it seems Dylan could have written a very similar song after watching any number of news items today.

Pulp – “Disco 2000”

Another set of great lyrics hiding in plain sight. I must have drunkenly danced to this song at countless house parties over the years, never once actually listened to the lyrics. A love song about making a plan to meet up with your childhood crush years down the line. Bittersweet and so many great dance-floor memories!

The Killers – “Quiet Town”

I can’t get enough of The Killers’ latest album. The whole thing is inspired by Brandon Flowers’ memories of his home town of Nephi, Utah. This one is particularly poignant, retelling the town’s struggle with the opioid crisis. Sad banger indeed.


Photo Credit: Andrew Paynter

WATCH: Poetica (Rachael Sage), “Sleep When I’m Tired”

Artist: Poetica (Rachael Sage)
Hometown: New York, New York
Song: “Sleep When I’m Tired”
Album: Poetica
Label: MPress Records

In Their Words: “I wrote ‘Sleep When I’m Tired’ off the top of my head — sitting at my music workstation in Upstate NY somewhere in the middle of our first lockdown. The words just kind of fell out of my mouth very naturally, and before I knew it I’d made a little demo of it in GarageBand using a four-bar blues loop. The vocal that you hear is my first take, and I built the percussion tracks around that initial performance, in somewhat of an exhausted creative stupor. I was definitely living the content of the song as it came out of me half-asleep, and other musicians I recruited remotely to add various colors were likewise feeling a lot of fatigue and even depression during that time, from sheer isolation.

“For that reason, it was important to me that when we made the video, there’d be a surrealistic, dreamlike quality to it, prompting the viewer to ask ‘where exactly are we and what’s going on?’ while also feeling a kind of dissociation between the performance and the environment. This is a reversal of what we’re used to, where home protects us from the elements. But as we all learned during these unusual times, whether we’re alone or with others, we all need wide open spaces, nature, and plenty of imagination to stave off the blues.” — Rachael Sage


Photo credit: Tom Moore

LISTEN: Pinegrove, “Respirate”

Artist: Pinegrove
Hometown: Montclair, New Jersey
Song: “Respirate”
Album: 11:11
Release Date: January 28, 2022
Label: Rough Trade Records

In Their Words: “With ‘Respirate,’ I was thinking about the opportunity we had in the chaos Covid brought to redesign society so that it works well for more people, but that instead what’s unfolding is a doubling down on the same bent and venal structures that have resulted in so much inequity in the first place. So, how can we compassionately respond to such cold and blatant greed? How can we make sure to look out for one another in the absence of meaningful leadership and materially significant policy? We’ve been stranded but we will look out for each other – what choice do we have? The song is a reminder that we’re in this together.” — Evan Stephens Hall, Pinegrove


Photo Credit: Balarama Heller

WATCH: Canyon City, “So Are We” (Live Acoustic)

Artist: Canyon City
Hometown: Ft. Collins, Colorado
Song: “So Are We” (Live Acoustic)
Album: Matinée
Release Date: January 7, 2022
Label: Nettwerk

In Their Words: “The imagery of ‘So Are We’ toggles between hyper zoomed out and hyper zoomed in — trying to tie together the ungraspable ‘big’ with the infinitely small and how the details of everything between work together like the gears of a clock. The chorus idea is, if all of these things could possibly be so intricately placed with the others in mind, working together in all the details, maybe the same could be true of our relationship: ‘It all, maybe, was meant to be, and so are we.'” — Paul Johnson, Canyon City


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