BGS 5+5: Pokey LaFarge

Artist: Pokey LaFarge
Hometown: Normal, Illinois
Latest album: Rock Bottom Rhapsody

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

When I heard Bill Monroe’s voice and mandolin. No one around me was doing it and I knew that was a way of being different and getting noticed. It was the most ballsy and exotic thing I’d heard up in [my] first fourteen years on earth.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

I love to dance with my buddies and with ladies, I am an avid reader of fiction, such as novels, and non-fiction, too — usually, WWI, WWII, Mafia, and artist biographies.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

Well, any and all… but my preferences are water or forests over mountains and desert. I like to go to local parks and run or hike. I like long walks anywhere I can. But I actually spend a lot of time in the gym, specifically the boxing gym. I have tons of energy and need to exert that physically or my mind gets overworked. An easy mind and a fit body makes Pokey a peaceful boy.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

Steak and potatoes and wine with Tom Waits, a piano, a guitar, and an orchestra.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I almost always write in first person, or so I think.


Photo credit: Larry Niehues

BGS 5+5: Mapache

Artist: Mapache (Sam Blasucci and Clay Finch)
Hometown: Glendale, California
Latest Album: From Liberty Street
Rejected band names: La Cabañita, Sam & Clay, Clam. Not sure why we thought Mapache was any better than the rest.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

All of the above really. Everything going in and out of the psyche is what we tend to be writing in our songs. The books we read play a big role in what we write, things like Sy Montgomery’s The Soul of an Octopus, Kon-Tiki, Charlotte’s Web, Christian Wiman’s Joy anthology. Lots of films, too, like young Kiefer Sutherland in The Lost Boys, Wim Wenders’ Paris, Texas, Frozen II, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, Seems Like Old Times, and lots of others.

Other art forms like gardening and painting as well. I’ve only recently started painting and I know that it looks dreadful to anyone else who sees my finished products, but they look nice to me and allow me to open up in other ways that eventually come back around in their turn to our music as well. — Sam

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

Not until after our second record was recorded and we had been traveling and playing music for about four years. It’s a lot of questioning constantly of whether or not this is really what I want to do and I’m happy about that. I think it has taken time for me to realize that it is actually something I can do. I feel like now I’m committed to it and that I really do want to do it because it feels right. But I won’t ever really stop wondering. I think the wondering is what gives you the reason to do it anyway.

Many musical moments in the past have lead me to love music the way I do now. Raffi in my crib, hearing my dad’s guitar solos, our first battle of the bands in high school, our first time recording anything or trying to learn how to sing harmonies — those are all growing pains for me musically. Painful in some ways looking at the level of our talent back then but definitely key in figuring out our taste and what we want to do with music. — Sam

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

I think my favorite moment on stage happens fairly often: It’s when Sam and I look at each other and start laughing, usually mid-song, and I think it’s because in the same weird moment we sort of realize how strange and funny and awesome playing music on a stage is. Some other favorite moments were playing in Spain and having the crowd sing along to our songs in Spanish, having Jonathan Richman watch us play a set, sharing the stage with Beachwood Sparks, and anytime we get to play in Big Sur. — Clay

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I spend a lot of time in the ocean. This leaves me pretty sunburned and sleepy a lot of the time, and when it’s really good I see waves rolling when I close my eyes. Feeling like this and playing music is the best. — Clay

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

The best pairing of food and music is at El Compadre in Echo Park where you can watch Trio Los Principes and eat beans and chips and drink flaming margaritas. The trio is truly one of the most badass bands in LA. Sam and I like to go like to meet up with our buddy Tim Hill there and plot world domination and watch Dodgers games. — Clay


Photo courtesy of Mapache

BGS 5+5: Western Centuries

Artist: Western Centuries
Hometown: Seattle, Washington
Latest album: Call the Captain
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Country Hammer (our first band name, since rejected)

All responses by Jim Miller

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

When I was 17 years old, living in Branford, Connecticut, the only music I considered “real” was Jimi Hendrix. Nothing else mattered. Then, for reasons I can’t recall, some friends and I went to a concert by Ralph Stanley and the Clinch Mountain Boys in a small venue at Yale University called The Enormous Room. His band at that time included Ricky Skaggs and Keith Whitley, who appeared to be teenagers, like I was. From that point on, my musical life was forever changed. I became a “Ralph Head” and would hitchhike pretty much anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard to see his band play. Even though it’s hard to draw a direct line from Ralph Stanley to the music I write and perform today, I hope that some spiritual elements of his music have seeped into my own.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

I spent 20 years touring with the band Donna the Buffalo. One year, we were hired to play MerleFest and our set, with Peter Rowan as part of the band, was scheduled to close the main stage, going on after Dolly Parton. We of course thought that this was our big break. But it turns out that Dolly talks quite a bit between songs and certainly nobody is going to cut her off. The length of our closing set kept shrinking.

When it got down to where it would be 20 minutes long, the stage manager asked: “Do you still want to go on?” Yes! So we rushed up there and started playing in our long-winded, jammy style. The stage crew could see where this was headed — I can’t remember whether we got through two or three songs before they shut down the house PA and monitors and turned the stage lights off. But our amps still worked! So we raged on as the audience stampeded for the exit gates. Priceless.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I spent my formative years in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. When I was 7 years old, I auditioned for the Saskatoon Boys Choir and somehow made the cut. We got to wear a turquoise vest, a little white jacket, and a black bow tie. Unlike the other kids, I couldn’t read music, but I somehow faked it — learning my parts by ear. We toured the Prairie Provinces, performing in churches and schools, and it became clear to me that being a musician was my true calling.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I’m a Lepidopterist by training, the study of butterflies and moths. I’ve hiked endless miles through the jungles of Central and South America, searching for rare species. Those travels have opened my eyes to the vastness and beauty of the natural world. They’ve also exposed me to people in different countries who speak different languages, eat different food, and live day-to-day in intimate contact with nature. Such experiences inform my world outlook and provide musical inspiration in ways I can acknowledge, but not easily explain.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

I would go to Bob Seger’s house — in Detroit I assume — and ask him to cook cheeseburgers on the grill. I can make the coleslaw.


Photo credit: Bill Reynolds

BGS 5+5: Callie McCullough

Artist: Callie McCullough
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Latest album: After Midnight
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): “Floofy” which is based on my giant hair and “Muckoluck” which is a riff on my last name “McCullough.” We’ve decided the Muckoluck is some sort of mythical bird creature that should be made into a cartoon…

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

I’m a proud book nerd and definitely guilty of being a movie binger! The title track of this album After Midnight was heavily inspired by the movie Midnight in Paris. I am somewhat of a nostalgist myself, so I really connected with that movie, I’ve watched it at least five times. I’ve got a deep love for not just the music but for the writing of the past; language was just more fluid and poetic before we all started texting short forms. I’ll read things as old as 14th century literature, although sometimes it can take a little deciphering. The more I am reading the more my brain is thinking lyrically; I tend to be a melody driven writer so it helps me to draw inspirations, sometimes even subconsciously. When we wrote “Feathers” I didn’t realize the influence until my producer, Dustin Olyan, pointed out that it reminded him of Edgar Allan Poe’s “The Raven.”

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

Almost never in my own writing… I didn’t really think about it as we were writing these songs or even pulling them together for the album, but every one of these songs is from the “me” perspective. There’s a vulnerability in that for sure, but these songs are my stories, it seemed obvious writing them in that way.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

I’m not sure there was an exact moment. I just always did. I was putting on soapbox shows in the living room for my family, and wandering around the yard making up little songs and singing them to myself by the age of 3. Both of my parents were full-time musicians and it all seemed pretty normal to me. I was playing guitar and piano by 8 years old and by the time I was 14 I had started really working at it, going out and getting my own gigs, joining a few bands and trying to write songs. I’ve always loved music on a visceral level, I couldn’t imagine not singing or playing an instrument; it’s a part of me and it’s in my blood.

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

Studio traditions… Well, food is a big priority when we’re in bigger tracking session days. Everyone is always happy when there are snacks! Tracking the bigger sessions of After Midnight I was pretty intimidated starting out surrounded by an all-star cast of our musical heroes like Ron Block and Barry Bales (Union Station), Jeff Taylor, Billy Thomas (The Time Jumpers) and the legendary Stuart Duncan! But quickly we were all laughing it up in the most casual way — and of course eating cookies.

There was a funny little tradition in the vocal sessions of this album. My sister had given me this silly white winter hat for Christmas (we call them “tooks” up in Canada) and it made me look like a Conehead; I had put it on to keep my hair out of the headphones the first day and we dubbed it “my cone.” I ended up recording all my vocal tracks that way, sitting in a cozy chair, wearing my “cone,” wrapped in a blanket sipping tea like a 90-year-old lady! I’m definitely at ease in smaller sessions, the pressure is gone and you are just making music.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

To make music that moves people. I make music because I love it and I need to do it to stay sane; but it is my hope that something I make will matter. I hope that somewhere along the line I will write a song that stands the test of time, or sing something in a way that catches someone’s heart, if even for a second. Because I think music matters, even if we sell it for less than a cent these days…


Photo credit: Chrissy Nix

BGS 5+5: Anna Lynch

Artist: Anna Lynch
Hometown: Sebastopol, California
Latest Album: Apples in the Fall EP
Release Date: March 13, 2020
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): My name is pretty short so I have never really had a nickname… although when trying to get my attention both my mother and friends will use my middle name. Nothing quite like hearing someone yell “Margarita!” across a room. My middle name is really Margarita, and it was my grandmother’s first name.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

Patty Griffin, hands down. I heard a song that was included on some American folk compilation in high school, then bought her 1000 Kisses album and walked the tiny streets of my hometown crying about some boy who didn’t love me back while simultaneously begging the universe to let me be her when I grew up and moved away from that town.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

Honestly, though I have been on stage a lot, the memory that will be with me forever is playing the Freight & Salvage in Berkeley with my dad when I was 5. My dad was always a musician and performed a lot. Being a kid I just thought he hung the moon and jumped at the chance to perform my favorite Bob Reid song at the open mic my dad played every week.

We had agreed to split the words, until dad, mid-song, left me hanging to finish the song by myself. I remember being angry he didn’t feed me the words like he said he would, but then I remember the crowd cheering and feeling proud of myself. Call it an addiction, a bug, a calling. My dad knew exactly what he was doing. He probably created a monster.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

I am secretly a huge WWII history buff. My great uncle was in the war and left me with an amazing curiosity for the life he lived before I met him. He was also a lifelong artist, and though most of his works were abstract paintings, while he was in the war he would sketch the people and scenery around him. We have notebooks upon notebooks of sketches he made during that time; some are even made on the backs of old maps. In a weird twist of interest I have started embroidering these sketches. It’s relaxing in a way and also a way to connect with him a bit.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

Oh man, the ones you haven’t heard yet… Songs are like little word children you let into the world, some you wish you had worked on more before you let them out into the big scary world, some come out as they should and some just don’t see the light of day.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I have written a few “story” songs. I use them as more a vehicle than anything. It is really hard to create an emotive work and perform it like a song, like a conversation, if you come right out of the gate saying, “Hi, my name is Anna, I’m a little depressed but that’s OK, also I love walking on a beach for hours alone, hoppy beer, sad songs, staying up late, waking up before anyone else in the house, WWII documentaries, dark jokes, old wood, playing acoustic bass, strong coffee, cotton sweaters, salted butter, gas stoves, handmade mugs and watching who splits the last cookie on the plate in half….” Not exactly a place to start a conversation. I use story songs as a sort of place to hide real things in plain sight. I hide little bits to make it both more “palatable” for me and more relatable to an audience.


Photo credit: Jessie McCall – Little Green Eyes Media

BGS 5+5: Danny Barnes

Artist: Danny Barnes
Hometown: Port Hadlock, Washington
Latest album: Man on Fire
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Possum Grunt. Crawfish Ate Your Face. Why Me Lord. The Crumbled Earth. Dirt Is My Witness.

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

I’d say Stringbean. I saw him in about 1970 when I was nine. The type of work a man was expected to do where I was from was roofing, something in the farming industry or construction, which were really hard and not fun, and here was this guy traveling around the country making people happy with a banjo, and I thought, “That’s what I’m going to do for the rest of my life,” and that turned out true, at least the traveling and the banjo part.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

Well I love poetry, especially William Blake, and I read the Bible a lot, and I’ve read lots of classic novels and philosophy. I got the idea from John Hartford and Paul Leary of the Butthole Surfers to make records that were like movies in your head, so I do get quite a few ideas from old movies. I like Westerns and sci-fi, old ones.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

To uplift people when they are really down, especially when you are of an unmoneyed heritage and things are overwhelming and it seems like the cops, society, the church, your family, God, and everybody has it in for you. And also to show that despite all the conventional wisdom on the subject, if you want to make art you can, especially if you must make it!

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I walk on the beach every day when I’m home. I like the salt water. And I like seeing God’s handiwork in the sky and in the plants and animals.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

Well, a normal person only has about four songs based on their life, then you run out of life and you have to start making up stuff, or reading an awful lot. So, pretty much never. I write about some horrible characters, ha ha. Though in my defense, it’s not that they are “bad,” they are just trying really hard to figure out a way to lay their burdens down.


Photo credit: Sarah Cass

BGS 5+5: Jonathan Wilson

Artist: Jonathan Wilson
Hometown: Forest City, North Carolina
Latest Album: Dixie Blur

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

Painting more than others really, I’ve always admired the visual arts so…..I want to be a great painter and the painters want to be a musician…….

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

The studio ritual is weed, the live ritual is multi-faceted: setlist, vocal warm-up for good luck, a tequila onstage and voila.

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

I live in nature and have for most of my recording career, it’s hugely important, the moon, the sunsets, they inspire new work, they make everything feel meaningful and magical … I live in the woods.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

A Gjelina dinner with Neil Young is on my bucket list.


Photo credit: Louis Rodiger

BGS 5+5: Taylor Ashton

Artist: Taylor Ashton
Hometown: Brooklyn via Toronto via Winnipeg via Victoria via Vancouver
Latest album: The Romantic
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Roger

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

Paintings, drawings, movies, dancing … all of those things give me feelings that I want to express through music, and that’s a big part of what inspires me, to see if that’s possible. For a little while I was obsessed with the idea of trying to write songs the way David Lynch directs movies. That idea floated around in my head for a couple years and then I realized David Lynch sort of directs movies in a way that is kind of like songwriting — you don’t always understand the literal connection between all the elements but they give you a really emotionally affecting end result that feels personal.

I’ve been into visual art a lot longer than I’ve been into music — as a kid I used to draw constantly no matter what else was going on. I discovered music in my teens and the drawing took a backseat for a while. Then, a few years ago, after my old band Fish & Bird stopped being on the road all the time, I moved to New York and stayed still for a while. I took a few years off of touring and releasing music, and in that time I got back into making visual art in a big way and it was such a huge relief. Right now those two halves of me feel pretty balanced. Music and visual art work well for me because if I’m stuck in a rut with one of them, I can usually turn to the other for relief, and actually I sometimes use one medium to directly process my frustration with the other. And then the cycle continues!

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

I’m fluid with this… some of my songs are very biographical in that they accurately express my actual feelings toward one specific other person, and only use details that are from my life. Then there are others where the characters in the song are amalgamations of different people, or exaggerations, or sung by a healthier version of me, or by a stupider version of me. Different stories call for different angles.

Sometimes if somebody has told me about something hard that is going on between them and another person, I’ll find myself walking away from that conversation chewing on the situation in my mind. Some stories, after you hear them, just seem to roll around in your brain, and you can’t help but imagine yourself in the shoes of the people involved. So, let’s say somebody has told me about a new relationship they are in, where they really like the person but they’re not feeling connected to them and they can’t figure out why. I might subconsciously imagine that I am them or that I’m the other person, and I’ll wonder how that would make me feel.

Of course, to imagine how you would feel in somebody else’s shoes you have to draw on your own experience, so I have a number of these songs where the “I” or the “you” character is sort of a combination of myself and somebody else I know or that I’ve read about. In “Anyway” for example, I think I’m the “I”, the “You”, AND the implied third person, at different times. And certain lines really make me think of specific people when I sing them, but it might just be that one line in a song and then I’m me again for the rest of the song.

But I don’t know if it’s “hiding” exactly because distancing yourself slightly the “I” you’re singing from can let you be more fearless in exploring vulnerable spaces that might feel off-limits if you thought people were going to assume you were always singing about yourself. OK, maybe it is hiding.

What’s the toughest time you ever had writing a song?

Usually the hardest songs to write are the ones I don’t end up liking very much. For me, writing songs needs to be basically enjoyable. If it’s not, I’m afraid my resentment toward the process will come out in the finished product and infect all who hear it. I have songs that I’ve labored over for months, joylessly chasing some idea I felt like it was important to express, and then once I finally put the finishing touches on it I felt completely unmoved to share it with anybody.

So, if the writing is “tough,” I try to just set it down, especially if it’s something I really like. “If You Can Hear Me” was one that was like that … I came up with the seed and got really excited about it, but then I just couldn’t finish it. I tried to fit so many things into the empty space and everything just made it worse. In that case I just had to stop fussing and trust that I just wasn’t ready to write the rest of that song yet. Sure enough, months later in the shower, I thought I was having a completely new song idea, until I realised it was the other half of “If You Can Hear Me.” I really wanted to finish that song, but I kind of had to trick myself into stopping wanting it so bad in order for it to happen.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

MISSION STATEMENT: To make art that inspires people to be honest, true to themselves, and compassionate toward all people and their natural world; to help little girls know they can do anything; to help little boys know they can have feelings and ask for help; to cause all to laugh and cry.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

I would love to go to the Mermaid Café and have 1971 Joni Mitchell buy me a bottle of wine … y’know, laugh and toast to nothing, and smash our empty glasses down. (Does wine count as food?)


Photo credit: Jonno Rattman

BGS 5+5: David Starr

Artist: David Starr
Hometown: Fayetteville, Arkansas
Latest album: Beauty and Ruin
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Folks call me Big D for some unknown reason…

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

One of my favorite moments on stage was pretty recent. I worked with a group in the small Colorado town where I live to build a performing and visual arts center (The Grand Mesa Arts & Events Center in Cedaredge) a couple of years ago. On opening night, I was mid-song playing to a full house when I realized that we’d “done it.” We’d made this place where there had been an empty shell before. That was an emotional moment of pride and gratitude; both for the appreciative crowd I was singing to and for the success of our hard work.

What other art forms — literature, film, dance, painting, etc — inform your music?

I’d have to say that my writing is most informed by the written and spoken words of others, for example how Beauty and Ruin is inspired by my grandfather’s 1972 novel, Of What Was, Nothing Is Left. I really enjoy taking a phrase or saying and building a song around it. That might come from a book I’ve read in the past or from a snippet I hear on the news or in the coffee shop. It can truly come from almost anywhere!

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

Like so many of my generation, I recall seeing The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show when they first came to the States. Though I was just a kid, I already loved music. And it seemed to me that those guys had it figured out! But to be honest, it’s only been in recent years that I made myself believe in me relative to being a musician. I’ve made a more serious commitment to writing, recording, touring and collaborating. And it’s been very rewarding!

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

Strive for excellence when writing, performing and in all my interactions.

How often do you hide behind a character in a song or use “you” when it’s actually “me”?

For the longest time, I wrote very much in the first person. But as time goes on, I find it really fun and liberating to inhabit a character’s skin when building a song. My recent book-based project gave me lots of room to run in that respect. More often than not, it ends up being a composite character with a healthy dose of me included.


Photo credit: Jason Denton

BGS 5+5 Cup O’Joe

Artist: Cup O’Joe
Hometown: County Armagh in Northern Ireland
Latest album: In the Parting
Personal nicknames (or rejected band names): Mug O’Tay

Answers provided by Tabitha Agnew

Which artist has influenced you the most … and how?

I would have to say that it would be Alison Krauss! Her solo recordings and recordings with Union Station have been some of the most impactful recordings for me. The first introduction to bluegrass music that I remember hearing was “Every Time You Say Goodbye” from Now That I’ve Found You: A Collection. Her releases have swayed within the bluegrass/country/gospel realms and I’ve been enjoying her music for years.

What’s your favorite memory from being on stage?

One of my favourite moments being on stage with COJ was probably getting to play at IBMA in North Carolina back in 2017 in a lineup with our good friend Niall Murphy on fiddle. It was a hoot! Glancing around on the workshop stage representing the international scene and trying to not get too nervous when we saw legends and some other top pickers walking by!

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

I try to have had at least one cup of sharp black coffee before a show and lots of water! (Both are definitely needed!) Yep, I know it sounds like a cliché, but I definitely run on coffee!

Which elements of nature do you spend the most time with and how do those impact your work?

This question has really made me stop and think, but I think I can safely say that trees are a big source of inspiration that impact our songwriting. Two songs off the new album refer to the concept of change happening as quickly as the changing of the leaves on the trees in each new season. Currently living in the countryside of County Armagh is a big source of inspiration in general, with rolling green hills and plenty of apple trees (County Armagh is “orchard county”).

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

Oooh! What a tough tough question! After getting to know Mr. Ron Block, I would have to say that I would pair him with a Scottish Cheese board (with Rough Scottish Oatcakes). I think that’s a pretty 10/10 combo in my opinion and I think he would totally be okay with that!


Photo credit: Katie Loughrin Photography