The Other 22 Hours: Yancey Strickler (Reissue)

What happens when creative people stop looking for a seat at the table and build a table of their own? For generations, society has treated an artist’s life as an economic sideline, a romanticized piecemeal struggle. Today, we are witnessing a structural revolution. With Colorado recently passing the nation’s first Artist Corporation legislation (the Colorado Artist Company Act) in June 2026, we are reissuing our definitive conversation with the architect of that very movement, Yancey Strickler.

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As the co-founder of Kickstarter, Metalabel, and the Artist Corporations Foundation, Yancey has dedicated his life to equipping creators with the structural tools to act as real entrepreneurs. In this expansive conversation, we trace the line between blue-collar artistry and private equity, explore why the industry trades meaning for convenience, and look closely at how interdependent networks can finally break the cycle of artistic exploitation.

In This Episode:

– A-Corps
– Colorado Artist Company Act, June 2026
– Metalabel
– The Creative Independent
– Hipgnosis
– Nirvana
– The Royal Alberta Advantage
– Ep 68 – Evan Honer
– “All The King’s Men”
– Virgil Abloh
– Bentoism
– “The Inner Ring,” CS Lewis

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The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s work. More about Michaela Anne’s work.


Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

Photo courtesy of the artist.

The Working Songwriter: Chicago Farmer

Our guest this week on the Working Songwriter is Cody Diekhoff, better known as Chicago Farmer. He grew up in the small farming community of Delavan, Illinois, before moving to Chicago in 2003. Over the past two decades he has built a devoted following through relentless touring, first as a solo performer and more recently with this band, the Fieldnotes.

Along the way, he has shared stages with Robert Earl Keen, Todd Snider, Greg Brown, the Wood Brothers, Elizabeth Cook, Wayne Hancock, Greensky Bluegrass, Del McCoury, and Gene Ween.

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His album, Flyover Country, was recorded with members of the Band of Heathens and 2026’s Homeaid (released in March of this year) is his first full-length release in six years. Elmore Magazine says he has “the novelist’s gift of building a suspenseful story to a surprising conclusion.” While No Depression declared, “If the Midwest is looking for a voice, the search is over.” The Chicago Tribune praised him for “some of the better roots songwriting in Chicago today.”

Cody is a very, very old friend of mine. We were both coming up in the Chicago folk music scene 20 years ago. He’s one of my favorite modern artists, and he should have been on this podcast many years ago. I got the chance to catch up with him on the phone a few weeks ago to hear about his journey so far.


Photo courtesy of Chicago Farmer.

Finding Lucinda: Episode 14 (An Epilogue)

In this final chapter of the Finding Lucinda journey, Ismay gets a surprising message from Lucinda‘s former bass player, Richard “Hombre” Price. Ismay travels to Sarasota, Florida to talk about his memories of playing on Car Wheels On A Gravel Road. They watch rare home movies from the ’90s of Lucinda and the band. Through this intimate conversation, Ismay gains insights about what it means to face your fate as an artist and as a person.

This episode also features a teaser of what is coming next for this project.

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Credits:
Produced and mixed by Avery Hellman for Neanderthal Records, LLC.
Music by Ismay.
Artwork by Avery Hellman.


Find more information on Finding Lucinda here. Find our full Finding Lucinda episode archive here.

Watch Finding Lucinda, listen to the soundtrack, or find a screening near you here.

Photo of Richard “Hombre” Price and Tex Tiles courtesy of Ismay.

Basic Folk: MayaFest (Maya de Vitry)

Lancaster, Pennsylvania-born, Nashville-based songwriter Maya de Vitry has been on Basic Folk a half dozen times (she’s only second to our fave man-bestie Mark Erelli) because we are so obsessed with her songwriting perspective, from her time in the Stray Birds to her solo work. Every time she’s on the show, we try and do something special. She’s been on with her siblings (Nina & Lyle), her partner (Ethan Jodziewicz), and her musical besties (Shelby Means & Joel Timmons).

When we heard about her fifth studio album, All My Faith, we knew we had to raise the Basic Folk bar on one of the best working songwriters today. When I (Cindy) first heard Maya play these songs live, I thought they were next level. Even though I’m not a musician or songwriter of any kind, I really wanted to know why they were so incredible. I thought it would be a cool exercise to get other songwriter friends of Maya’s together to dig deep and explain what’s happening with Maya’s writing. What is it about the lyrics, the phrasing, the melodies that is really outstanding?

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Maya was down with this idea and invited Ana Egge, Caitlin Canty, John Craigie, Kristin Andreassen, and Oliver Wood on this episode of Basic Folk, so we could hear from some of her favorite writers about these new songs. We had everyone here listen to the record a few times before recording the podcast; Maya shared the lyrics, album credits, and a track-by-track write up for the songs. She chose three songs for each person to specifically dig into, but of course everyone is free to share comments on any songs. We knew it was going to be a great experience, but it turned out even better than we had hoped. The insight these writers share intensify Maya’s new songs and give an even greater understanding of why they make such an impact.


Photo Credit: Ana Egge by Lorenzo Wolff; Oliver Wood by Alysse Gafkjen; Maya de Vitry by Ethan Jodziewicz; John Craigie courtesy of the artist; Caitlin Canty by Noah Altshuler; Kristin Andreassen courtesy of the artist. 

The Other 22 Hours: Hrishikesh Hirway

We often treat our creative identities like lanes, fearing that branching out looks like simple dilettantism. This week on The Other 22 Hours, we explore the delicate balance of identity and creative output with singer-songwriter Hrishikesh Hirway, the brilliant mind behind hit podcasts The West Wing Weekly and Home Cooking, as well as the globally acclaimed Netflix series and podcast Song Exploder, which features the likes of Paul McCartney, Billie Eilish, R.E.M., and Lin-Manuel Miranda.

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Despite a decade of monumental success in the podcast and broadcast worlds, Hrishikesh found himself battling a quiet, profound depression born from leaving his primary identity as a singer-songwriter behind. He recently returned to music with his first album in 15 years and joins us for a beautifully tender conversation on breaking through a 10-year writer’s block, navigating the vulnerability of cold-calling collaborators, and learning to sit comfortably within a “queer divine dissatisfaction.”

In This Episode:

– Song Exploder (Podcast / Netflix Series)
– Alison Russell
– Linda Ronstadt
– Talking Heads
– The Band
– The Grateful Dead
– Bob Dylan
– Phil Weinrobe
– Ep 117 – Maia Friedman
– Jeff Tweedy – How to Write One Song (Book)
– Carl Jung / Depth Psychology
– The West Wing Weekly (Podcast)
– Home Cooking (Podcast)
– Samin Nosrat
– Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat (Book)
– Josh Malina
– Allison Janney
– Jenny Owen Youngs
– Yep Roc Records
– John Mark Nelson
– Matt Ross Spang (Memphis TED Talk)
– Agnes de Mille
– Martha Graham

Go Deeper: 

Watch: View this entire conversation above or on YouTube.
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Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram.

The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s work. More about Michaela Anne’s work.


Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

Photo Credit: Elisha Christian

Folk Files: I Got the Blues

According to many textbooks, the blues is a genre that was born in the rural Mississippi Delta with roots in the “sorrow songs” of enslaved people. It’s easy, however, to poke holes in this origin story and instead start to see the blues as a joyful, rebellious musical expression that formed in an urban environment.

In this episode of Folk Files, we’ll take a look at different theories about the origin of the blues, separate fact from fiction, and uncover the reason why the Mississippi Delta narrative was promoted so strongly.

(Content warning: this episode has occasional explicit language and sexual references.)

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For a list of all musical excerpts used in this episode, click here.
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Host: Olivia Harding
Assistant Producer: Aaron J. Morton

The Other 22 Hours: Amy Grant

What does it mean to inhabit a creative life when that container itself changes? We sit down on The Other 22 Hours with GRAMMY-nominated, multi-platinum crossover superstar Amy Grant. Having shaped the landscape of pop and contemporary Christian music for over four decades, Grant found herself navigating an unexpected wilderness following a series of medical setbacks – including a traumatic bike accident – and a rewritten relationship with her own processing speed. In this soulful, luminous conversation, she explores the deliberate art of slowing down, the creative sanctuary of “Craftopia,” and why she now views aging not as a loss of identity, but as a continual invitation to let go.

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In This Episode:

– Vince Gill
– Eagles
– Mac McAnally
– Jimmy Buffett
– Coral Reefer Band
– Barefoot Republic
– NPR’s Wildcard podcast
– Ray Charles
– Cicely Tyson
– Roots (miniseries)
– Viktor Frankl
– Man’s Search for Meaning
– Gene Miller
– Dr. Jim Netterville
– Suleika Jaouad

Go Deeper: 

Watch: View this entire conversation above or on YouTube.
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Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram.

The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s work. More about Michaela Anne’s work.


Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

Photo Credit: Ed Rode

The Working Songwriter: Tedeschi Trucks Band

Our guests this week on the Working Songwriter are Gabe Dixon and Mike Mattison of Tedeschi Trucks Band, the GRAMMY-winning roots ensemble led by Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks. Formed in 2010, their debut album, Revelator, won the GRAMMY Award for Best Blues Album. The group has since become one of the country’s premier live bands, selling out Madison Square Garden and playing more than 20 shows at Red Rocks Amphitheatre.

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Mike Mattison has been working with Derek Trucks for more than two decades. He joined the Derek Trucks Band as lead vocalist in the early 2000s and became a founding member of Tedeschi Trucks Band thereafter. He is also one of the group’s principal lyricists and co-wrote one of its best-known songs, “Midnight in Harlem.” Keyboardist and singer-songwriter Gabe Dixon joined TTB in 2019. Before that, he led the Gabe Dixon Band and build a solo career of his own. Within Tedeschi Trucks Band he has become a key songwriter, vocalist, and instrumentalist.

TTB have appeared on Austin City Limits, the Late Show with Stephen Colbert, and Jimmy Kimmel Live! NPR called the band “a deeply skilled and spirited ensemble” while Rolling Stone has praised their “freewheeling, soulful sound.”

I got a chance to catch up with Gabe and Mike to hear about their musical journey so far.


Photo Credit: Chapman Baehler

Basic Folk: Outlaws’ Almanac (Kimaya Diggs & Lizzie No)

Lizzie No, Kaia Kater, Nathan Evans Fox, Olivia Ellen Lloyd, Tray Wellington, A.J. Haynes, and more are featured on the new compilation album Outlaws’ Almanac, a response to the 250th anniversary of the United States of America. Led by executive producer Lizzie No, the project features a diverse range of songwriters and storytellers working in broadly defined folk, Americana, and roots traditions. Lizzie envisioned the compilation as an opportunity to be in conversation with the American project, taking an oft-overlooked perspective. Their curation centers Black, brown, Indigenous, queer, rural, and women’s voices, with traditional and contemporary music melding in a manner that brings to mind America’s promise of being a melting pot.

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Lizzie No and Kimaya Diggs (who also appears on the album) join Basic Folk for a candid and vulnerable conversation about the project and its inspirations. We talked about how they each relate to outlaws and the difference between them and those tasked with protection within the law. We also talked about the significance of the album art by Mia Kristen, a folk art-inspired painting of a woman with a guitar riding a donkey surrounded by corn and flowers. I get into the details of some of the bungled celebrations of America’s major birthdays (namely the 100th and the 200th) and why those celebrations continually leave out marginalized and overlooked voices. We talk about how there are Black people in the future and why that is actually a radical idea in 2026. We end with a lighthearted Lightning Round called “IS THIS OUTLAW?” Thanks to Lizzie and Kimaya for being so open and honest in this intense and special conversation.


Photo Credits: Lizzie No by Mandi Fountain. Lead image of Kimaya Diggs courtesy of the artist. Alternate images of Kimaya Diggs by Jo Chattman. 

The Other 22 Hours: James Gardin

How do you build a sustainable life around your art when the traditional definitions of success feel increasingly narrow? In this episode of The Other 22 Hours, we sit down with musician, songwriter, and educator James Gardin. While his joyous, infectious music has found a global audience through major sync campaigns for brands like Apple, Tommy Hilfiger, and Saks Fifth Avenue, James’s core creative philosophy is anchored in something much more grounded: community, education, and the refusal to second-guess the spark. Together, we explore the nuts-and-bolts realities of the licensing world, the absolute humility required to teach songwriting to eight-year-olds, and how letting go of the industry’s arbitrary rules allows us to finally blaze our own paths.

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In This Episode:

– Lizzo
– Marshmello
– J Dilla
– Proof
– Elzhi
– Slum Village
– Liza Garza
– Def Poetry Jam
– SZA
– Chance the Rapper
– Marmoset
– Musicbed
– iSpot.tv
– TuneFind
– Western States Center
– Eric Ward
– All of the Above Hip Hop Academy
– Trails End Camp
– Brooklyn Philharmonic
– Sinners
– Ryan Coogler

Go Deeper: 

Watch: View this entire conversation above or on YouTube.
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The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (producer, mixer, musician) and Michaela Anne (songwriter, artist, creative coach). More about Aaron’s work. More about Michaela Anne’s work.


Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

Photo Credit: Lead image courtesy of the artist. Alternate vertical image by James Gardin. Alternate square image by Victor Manuel.