Joshua Ray Walker Closes Up the Honky-Tonk on ‘See You Next Time’

For the last couple of years, Joshua Ray Walker has been living out the lyrics to a down-in-the-dumps country song. The Texas-born singer-songwriter lost his father, couldn’t work due to COVID, and was displaced from his home during much of that time, after a burst pipe led to a waterfall of misfortune.

But music has always been Walker’s saving grace, and with his new album, See You Next Time, he puts one in the win column. Marking the end of a country music opus that includes three imaginative albums, fully conceived and expertly executed, the set puts the finishing touches on a true honky-tonk opera. Walker’s debut album introduced a fictional bar set in his native South Dallas — full of quirky, charismatic characters and wild adventures — and after the second built on their stories, See You Next Time finds them saying goodbye as the bar closes down for good.

All delivered with a mix of shuffling, authentic trad-country style, soul-inspired horn blasts and Walker’s sympathetic vocal, often cracking at the moment of peak emotional intrigue, that’s a bittersweet thematic arc, to be sure — and one that has been mirrored in his personal life. But after making such a grand vision a reality, and earning the admiration that came with it, Walker’s optimistic about the future.

He spoke with BGS about where the idea for this trilogy came from, what kind of mark his fictional honky-tonk left on him and what it feels like to say goodbye.

BGS: How are you feeling right now? It’s been a difficult stretch for you personally, but you’re back on the road now and this album is something special.

Joshua Ray Walker: As far as my career goes, I feel great. I wanted to make these records for a long time. I had 10 years to think about it and put a plan together. I put out three records in three years, which was my goal, and this last one puts an end to this trilogy that I had in mind.

Ten years is a long time to dream of something. Where did the idea for the trilogy come from?

I guess it started because I found a pen in my grandfather’s drawer — it said, “I rode the bull at Bronco Billy’s.” I had been writing songs for a few years and it just sparked this idea, like what that place would have been like. Who would have been there? I started writing songs about those characters, and over the years my plan got grander and grander, and it turned into this trilogy. I had the artwork and the names all picked out before we ever started cutting the first record.

Did you ever actually go to that bar?

No, that bar closed when I was a baby, but it was a real place in South Dallas that my grandfather went to, I guess. His name was Billy, so I assume he picked up the pen because it had his name on it, and that was really it. It just spiraled out of control and I kept writing songs about these characters. I had dreamed this whole world in my head.

Where did the characters come from? Did you know people like this?

Yeah, I definitely hung out with people just like the characters. I grew up in a part of Dallas that’s pretty nice now, but when I was a kid it was pretty rough, and I grew up around bars and barflies because of the work my parents did. I just like to get to know people, I really like meeting new people, so whenever I go to a dive bar, I end up striking up a conversation with strangers, and all those stories make their way into the albums.

Over these albums, have you developed a favorite character?

Yeah, a lot of them are pretty sad or dark characters, but there’s one in particular I really find funny. It’s the character for “Cupboard” on the second record, who is also the character for “Welfare Chet” on the new record. It’s a song about that guy you run into at the bar and for the first five minutes of the conversation he’s funny and wacky and entertaining, and then 30 minutes in, you’re talking about Q-Anon or whatever. There’s a line in the song about talking with a mouthful of food, but they don’t serve food here, and I just feel like that’s happened to me so many times. Like I’m talking to some guy at the bar who won’t leave me alone and he’s got like a hot dog or something, and they don’t even have hot dogs here, like “Where did you get that?” So that’s one of my favorites. It’s a lighthearted character, but I feel like we’ve all dealt with that guy at some point.

Since you started describing this bar and these people, has your view of the story changed at all? Have you ended up with a different perspective over the years?

I don’t know, that’s an interesting question. I think I was trying to paint a picture that I had in my head, so in a lot of ways it hasn’t changed much, but there’s always a kind of story arc there. Even in the titles — Wish You Were Here, Glad You Made It, See You Next Time — it’s like this coming of age and then dying out. On this last album they’re saying goodbye to the honky-tonk because it’s closing, and I don’t know if the story has changed or the place has changed, but the way that it fits into my personal life has changed. It’s taken on real meaning, by accident, because my personal life has kind of followed this story arc.

Like, I wrote “Canyon” for the first record — that was a story for my dad about our relationship, and I wrote it right after he was diagnosed with cancer. And then four years later I was about to go into the studio to record the third record, and he passed away, so I wrote “Flash Paper.” So I’m coming to terms with loss and then on the last song, actually saying goodbye. That’s what the whole trilogy is about, and it ended up being mirrored by my personal life, just by chance.

So with “Flash Paper,” you were sort of processing everything through the song?

Yeah, that’s typically how I write songs. I mean, the first song I ever wrote is called “Fondly.” It’s on my first record, and my granddad had just passed. As I was leaving the hospital, I wrote that song in the parking lot and it all came out at once, so I think when I’m overwhelmed or whatever, I turn to songwriting. Some of the more emotional songs that come out all at once, like “Canyon” or “Flash Paper,” and “Fondly,” there’s not a lot of clever end-rhymes. It’s just straight forward whatever I was feeling at the moment.

You finish up with “See You Next Time.” You’ve said this project was about saying goodbye to the bar. What about you? Are you a little sad to close this chapter?

No, I wouldn’t say I’m sad. I’m excited to see what I write after this.

Do you have any idea what that might be? This project was so big that I bet it took a lot of creative energy.

I’ve written a lot of songs that haven’t ended up on these three records, so I still have a decent amount of that catalog to put out, and I’m writing all the time, so there’s always new stuff. It will still be country, I assume. I mean, these three records have a honky-tonk vibe because they’re set in a honky-tonk, but I have other aspects of music that I like as well. I think I’ve found a sound that represents what I like as a writer, so I don’t know if the sound will change too much, but the subject matter can be about anything. Now that the world is starting to open back up again, I feel like I need to go to do some living, so I have some experiences to write about. That’s the biggest thing, because most of my songs come from going and exploring places that most people don’t always find interesting. I need to go do some of that so I have some more material.


Photo credit: Chad Windham

LISTEN: Read Southall Band, “Here We Are (There We Went)”

Artist: Read Southall Band
Hometown: Stillwater, Oklahoma
Song: “Here We Are (There We Went)”
Album: For the Birds
Release Date: October 22, 2021
Label: Thirty Tigers

In Their Words: “Being in a touring band, we pack up and leave just as quickly as we set up shop, because a warm welcome in a new place is always worth the distance. The opportunity to get eye-to-eye with a crowd of new faces in a new place is the reason we arrive, as well as the reason we depart. It’s the driving force behind the whole machine. This song is a fun way to celebrate the opportunities music has given us to explore this world and its people. We look forward to all of the new places it takes us.” — Read Southall


Photo credit: Jonathan Burkhart

BGS 5+5: Noel McKay

Artist: Noel McKay
Hometown: My hometown is really the little Central Texas Hill Country community of Pipe Creek. I currently live in Nashville, Tennessee.
Latest album: Blue, Blue, Blue
Personal Nicknames: I think that in the US, Noel is a sufficiently unusual name that I never really got a nickname. It’s a fairly common name in the UK, as it turns out.

Which artist has influenced you the most… and how?

The artist that influenced me the most is Guy Clark. Guy took a shine to one of my songs when I was a young songwriter. He did a lot of nice things for me and I won’t ever forget it. As I began to dig into his catalog, I realized the depth of his work. Of course, I will never live up to the expectations that come from being spoken about favorably by such an amazing writer but, every day, I try to anyway.

Since food and music go so well together, what is your dream pairing of a meal and a musician?

With the pairing of food and music in mind, I would love to sit and eat Cajun food with Lucinda Williams somewhere in the Atchafalaya Basin. So much of her work has had a huge impact on me.

What was the first moment that you knew you wanted to be a musician?

The moment I knew I wanted to be a performing songwriter was when I was 11 or 12 and hearing Randy Newman’s records Sail Away and Good Old Boys. The very sharp expressions of his worldview really appealed to me and made me feel like it was possible to sing about something besides hedonism. Up to that point, the TV show WKRP in Cincinnati had been showing me a sort of cartoonish example what musicians were supposed to be like.

What rituals do you have, either in the studio or before a show?

I have a few rituals in the recording studio. When cutting basics, I find that it’s best to avoid caffeine for the purposes of keeping a relaxed vibe. When singing, I do lots of breathing and drink tons of water. When in mixing, I like to have books with lots of pictures, i.e., vintage guitars, famous painters’ works, sculpture, archaeology, things that allow me to be partially distracted so that my ear remains engaged, but I don’t micromanage or obsess over a small part of the bigger song picture.

If you had to write a mission statement for your career, what would it be?

If there’s a mission statement for my career, it is this: “You Do It Or You Don’t.” I’ve tried both.


Photo credit: Aisha Golliher

WATCH: Lyle Lovett, “Teach Me About Love” (From ‘Austin City Limits,’ 1997)

Artist: Lyle Lovett
Hometown: Klein, Texas
Song: “Teach Me About Love”
Album: Mighty Fine: An Austin City Limits Tribute to Walter Hyatt
Release Date: October 1, 2021
Label: Omnivore Recordings

Editor’s Note: This Lyle Lovett performance of Walter Hyatt’s “Teach Me About Love” was filmed in 1997 for Austin City Limits as part of a tribute to Hyatt, who was killed in a 1996 plane crash. Cut from the episode due to time constraints, the performance has been unseen until now, coinciding with the release of the full concert on CD and digital, titled Mighty Fine: An Austin City Limits Tribute to Walter Hyatt. Four unheard Hyatt recordings also appear on the album.

In Their Words: “Walter Hyatt is one of the most creative souls to come out of the Austin music scene in the past two decades. Although raised in Spartanburg, S.C., and spent his last years in Nashville, he represented the spirit of Austin. An artist of personal vision, original style and artistic integrity. During the late ‘70s and ‘80s, Uncle Walt’s Band developed a strong loyal following in Austin thanks to their expressive blend of music styles, songs that were street smart, energetic, honest, and inspirational to a lot of younger singer-songwriters like me. Walter Hyatt explored many styles – New Orleans jazz, country honky-tonk, with a bit of Elvis and course Bob Wills. His dry sense of humor made him very special in the eyes of fans and critics. His death was a personal loss for those of us who knew him, and for anyone who ever heard his music. This program is a celebration of extraordinary music by an extraordinary man with a gift for reaching hearts and minds of so many people.” — Lyle Lovett

LISTEN: Jeremy Pinnell, “Goodbye L.A.”

Artist: Jeremy Pinnell
Hometown: Southgate, Kentucky
Song: “Goodbye L.A.”
Album: Goodbye L.A.
Release Date: October 1, 2021
Label: SofaBurn Records

In Their Words:Goodbye L.A. was a special situation. I was introduced to Jonathan Tyler through a mutual friend and I was a little nervous about making a record with Jonathan. But we took a leap of faith and and found out it was the best thing we could’ve done. The feeling of excitement was present in the studio. New songs, new ideas flowing in and then hearing the playback was such a positive experience. I’m excited for people to hear these songs we wrote mostly from being on the road and I hope they enjoy it as much as we enjoyed making it. We’ve worked really hard to make this album. Long hours, hardly any pay, and many nights away from home make this album what it is.” — Jeremy Pinnell


Photo credit: Melissa Fields

The BGS Radio Hour – Episode 217

Welcome to the BGS Radio Hour! Since 2017, this weekly radio show and podcast has been a recap of all the great music, new and old, featured on the digital pages of BGS. This week we have California country from Elijah Ocean and the Ben Reddell Band, acoustic folk goodness from Anna Tivel, a final farewell to our August Artist of the Month Amythyst Kiah, and much more.

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Amythyst Kiah – “Black Myself”

In our recent two-part interview with our August Artist of the Month, Amythyst Kiah, she spoke with us about faith, about mental health and singing vulnerable, open songs every night, and the intent behind lyrics and songs like “Black Myself.” Plus, she retells the series of events that helped her leave her “shut-up-and-sing” policy behind. Thank goodness for that.

Chris J. Norwood – “Good Guy With a Gun”

On “Good Guy With a Gun,” singer-songwriter Chris J Norwood examines the grief and loss of his father’s suicide while challenging the United States’ gun culture: “Truth be told, we as a country need to talk more openly about suicide. Especially as it relates to the gun debate…”

Ava Earl – “New Light”

One of the first love songs singer-songwriter Ava Earl ever wrote, “New Light” is also a little existential — it deals with the wonder and mystery of the universe as well as that of love.

Elijah Ocean – “Honky Tonk Hole”

As Elijah Ocean himself puts it: “‘Honky Tonk Hole’ is about a guy who has seen better days and whose big dreams have all gone up in smoke. Now he spends all his time drinking and playing country music in bars. Not entirely sure why he’s complaining about it, though. Seems kinda fun and not a bad life. It’s a high-energy shuffle about falling into a rut but also kind of loving it.”

Ben Reddell Band – “12 Bar Blues”

Musician and frontman Ben Reddell recently put together a Mixtape celebrating bands and artists who have played The Grand Ole Echo, a roots music concert series he books at LA’s Echo Park, or who rely on the creative and rehearsal space he manages, Bedrock LA. To quote: “We love our traditional country here in Echo Park, but we also like to let our freak flag fly with the hippie-dippie, pot-smoking types as well.” Check out the community-minded Mixtape here.

Kashena Sampson – “Hello Darkness”

Nashville-based Americana singer Kashena Sampson brings us a Shocking Blue cover that carries a feeling of yearning for someone you can’t be with.

Morningsiders – “This Could Be Good”

Morningsiders began writing their new album after the pandemic lockdowns began. They wanted “This Could Be Good” to be dance-y and delicate while being about aimless nights out with friends.

Anna Tivel – “Illinois”

Singer-songwriter Anna Tivel talked with us about her pre-show rituals (or lack thereof), drawing inspiration from literature and poetry, observing the natural and manmade world, and more in a recent 5+5.

Anya Hinkle – “Why Women Need Wine”

Asheville’s Anya Hinkle told us about the massive influence Gillian Welch had on her musically, combining the spirits of musicians who had influenced Hinkle early on — like Tony Rice, the Grateful Dead, Joan Baez, Sarah McLachlan and Madonna — into one tangible, modern, and original roots sound. Read more in this edition of 5+5.

Jay Nash – “Shine”

Jay Nash wrote “Shine” inspired by the new arrival of his daughter. It took him nearly ten years to return to the song idea: “Because, as all parents know, what followed those calm and quiet moments of parenthood was an all-out sprint… a crash course [of] becoming a parent.”

Dallas Burrow – “My Father’s Son”

On his new track, “My Father’s Son,” self-described troubadour Dallas Burrow tells the four-generation story of the men in his family line — and the influence they’ve had on their sons. It’s a tender, honest, autobiographical history.

Lonesome River Band – “Every Minute Means a Mile”

The Lonesome River Band pays tribute to the Easter Brothers on their upcoming album, Singing Up There: A Tribute to the Easter Brothers. And “Every Minute Means a Mile” is an uncomplicated Easter Brothers classic.

Adeline Stringband – “Hickory”

Adeline Stringband — a veritable old-time supergroup featuring Chris Coole, Mark Kilianski, John Showman, Adrian Gross, and Sam Allison — holed up in a cabin in the woods and recorded old time tunes for three days and three nights. Gross describes it as one of the most off-the-cuff and creative sessions he’s ever been a part of: “Seeing as it was -20º and there was a blizzard outside the whole time, there was nothing to do but pick tunes and roll the tape, and that’s exactly what we did.”

Jackson Melnick – “John the Revelator”

“Apocalypse isn’t to be confused with tragedy. Apocalypse is seeing something in truth, and the pain that might come from having the blinders pulled off.” Jackson Melnick brings us a bluegrass version of this classic blues song.


Photos: (L to R) Elijah Ocean by Wolfe & Von; Amythyst Kiah by Sandlin Gaither; Anna Tivel by Matt Kennelly

LISTEN: Elijah Ocean, “Honky Tonk Hole”

Artist: Elijah Ocean
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “Honky Tonk Hole”
Album: Born Blue
Release Date: July 23, 2021

In Their Words: “‘Honky Tonk Hole’ is about a guy who has seen better days and whose big dreams have all gone up in smoke. Now he spends all his time drinking and playing country music in bars. Not entirely sure why he’s complaining about it, though. Seems kinda fun and not a bad life. It’s a high-energy shuffle about falling into a rut but also kind of loving it.” — Elijah Ocean


Photo credit: Wolfe & Von

LISTEN: Kashena Sampson, “Hello Darkness”

Artist: Kashena Sampson
Hometown: Nashville, TN
Song: “Hello Darkness”
Album: Time Machine
Release Date: September 10, 2021
Label: New Moon Records

In Their Words: “This is a cover song by the Dutch rock band, Shocking Blue. I asked my best friend if she could choose one song for me to cover which one would she choose, it was this. I love Shocking Blue and I think it’s a great song and I connect to the lyrics, especially with what I was going through at that time in my life. To me, this song carries the message of yearning for someone who you cannot be with. It goes along with what a lot of the songs on this record are about. My struggles with codependency, fantasizing in relationships and thinking someone outside of me was the answer to my problems. It is a very heavy feeling when you think that someone else can fix you and you find out that they are not the answer. A good portion of the songs on this record are about a relationship I had with someone I cared for very much, who had gotten into some trouble and was incarcerated. I went into rescue mode and believed I had to save them in order to be ok.” — Kashena Sampson


Photo credit: Laura Partain

WATCH: Erik Shicotte, “Flint”

Artist: Erik Shicotte
Hometown: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Song: “Flint”
Album: Miss’ry Pacific EP
Release Date: July 16, 2021
Label: Black Country Rock

In Their Words: “Sprawled along the medicine of a two-lane highway, ‘Flint’ came as the soundtrack to my own cinematic heartbreak and the wandering repercussions of ineffective escapism. Drawn over a steady stalwart 4/4 roll, the desperate defiance of a yearning heart plays out over a defining romance cut short, and the humming tires that follow. This is a song about hurtin’ and runnin’ out from under the inescapable and sometimes inexplicable wanting that often comes from the naiveté and hopefulness of a spark. The instrumentation is deafeningly present, and I even let myself chug out a simple pseudo-lead on the Telecaster. If ever there were to be a movie made about me being all sad and pissed off, this is the song that would accompany the southwestern sunrise and cigarette breath as I drive into the golden ether.” — Erik Shicotte


Photo credit: Destiny Frack

LISTEN: Jon Byrd, “I’ll Be Her Only One” (Feat. Paul Niehaus)

Artist: Jon Byrd (Feat. Paul Niehaus)
Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee
Song: “I’ll Be Her Only One”
Album: Me and Paul
Release Date: July 16, 2021

In Their Words:Me and Paul is dedicated to and a reflection of the people that came to see me and Paul over the years in little watering holes and honky-tonks here in Music City. They are small but mighty, as Billy Block used to say. It’s also dedicated to venues that let us take over their ‘happy hour’ to play the saddest, darkest, most pitiful and tragic songs ever penned. This co-write with Kevin Gordon put me in mind of his longtime music collaborator Joe McMahan. While known mostly as a guitarist/sideman, he’s had a studio for years and produced great work with Kevin and many others. He and Kevin are more on the rockin’ side of things but I was very keen to know what he’d bring to a project like this, so stripped down. And so country. But the Kevin connection is what sent me down this road.” — Jon Byrd


Photo credit: Susan English