With Acoustic Authority, Kings of Convenience Bestow ‘Peace or Love’

Two guys with acoustic guitars singing quietly — it’s not as easy as it looks. For the Norwegian acoustic duo Kings of Convenience, a lot of forethought went into the simplicity that shines through Peace or Love. Because it is sonically spacious, the album feels like a respite in an increasingly loud world. The comforting vocal blend, the lilting melodies, and concise songwriting are all wonderfully intact, carried over from their prior project a dozen years ago.

With impeccable rhythms and an eye for detail, the collection feels cozy and even encouraging at times. But upon listening closely to the lyrics, it’s clear that band members Erlend Øye and Eirik Glambek Bøe are no strangers to conflict. Note the album title: It’s Peace or Love, without an “and” in sight.

Plus, there’s a rough imagery inherent in a title like “Rocky Trail,” the album’s sprightly lead single that finds the narrator admitting to missing the warning signs in a relationship and wishing for another chance.

“‘Rocky Trail’ represents a certain kind of groove that we do a lot, which is of course inspired by bossa nova,” says Øye, speaking on behalf of the duo for the first half of a Zoom interview with BGS. “It features Eirik’s trademark technique. He has a very specific technique of playing that allows him to be as quietly funky as he is. I think it is also quite layered, like onion shells. There are a lot of details in that song, so I think it rewards recurrent listening.”

For example, one can hear a propulsive rhythm in the verses, not unlike the one-foot-in-front-of-the-other mindset of a challenging hike, and then in the middle there’s a downward glissando that makes it feel like this relationship just tumbled back to square one. Or is that overanalyzing?

“Hmm, I wish I had thought of all that,” Øye says with a laugh. “Coincidence!”

While both musicians have a number of side projects, Kings of Convenience have always managed to come back around. Asked about finding common ground in the music they enjoy, Øye says, “Although we think of ourselves as very different, in reality being together all those years – although we didn’t always hang out together all the time – we influence each other a lot with all the music we’ve gone into.”

He continues, “Just as an example, when Eirik started coming around with these bossa nova ideas, that was already in the first year of us working more or less like Kings of Convenience in ’98. My first reaction was, ‘Oh noooo. What is this elevator music?’ But then, you know, that’s how you grow, by accepting something you have a preconceived notion of. I’m recently playing a lot with some Italian friends of mine and they are particularly inspired by Latin American music, in addition to Italian music. So, just following them, trying to pick up what they do, that’s how you get inspired – and I bring that into Kings of Convenience. Without knowing it, you inspire each other.”

When the topic turns to country music, Øye says he once read an interview with R.E.M.’s Peter Buck about playing country sessions and finding different ways of getting from G to F to C. “I remember thinking that’s interesting,” he says. “I do like this aspect of country music, basically trying to dig even more around an already very dug place, and not being afraid of that. OK, it’s not the first song in the world that goes F, C, G, but that’s not so important. I think that’s the one division in Kings of Convenience where we still disagree, that I’m more sympathetic to the country music side of making music, while Eirik is very into the idea that a chord progression should be unheard of.”

But will that ever get resolved?

“It doesn’t have to be resolved,” Øye concludes. “It’s part of our ongoing creative dynamic.”

That dynamic is much more complicated to capture in a studio than one might expect. Anything from the age of the guitar strings to the length of one’s fingernails can derail a session. That’s part of the reason Peace or Love was recorded over the span of five years and in five cities, almost always in person.

About to explain how they finally got the best version of “Rocky Trail” after many, many attempts, Glambek Bøe pops up in the Zoom call. After some cheerful greetings, Øye teases that “my main contribution to that song is the end part, with the guitar solo, and also my contribution is my incredible patience of recording the song so many times!”

Recreating the scene for comedic effect — “This is going to be the one, I promise you!!” — Øye graciously signs off, ushering Glambek Bøe into a conversation about the songwriting component of Peace or Love, specifically the encouraging messages nestled within some pretty sad songs.

“A lot of our songs are sad and they bring people in touch with their sorrow,” he says. “So I wanted to also give some uplifting words sometimes. I mean, once we’ve made people sad with our sad songs – when we have their attention – it’s a nice moment to give them a little pat on the back and a piece of advice. I like that type of songwriting, which is actually advice writing. You’re writing down advice for people. And for me, some artists have been giving me advice throughout my childhood and my young years, especially The The. I listened to him a lot as a teenager. He gives a lot of advice and I cherished that. It was important advice for me.”

One nugget of wisdom in “Love Is a Lonely Thing” is emblematic of the duo’s interplay. The lyric that suggests “It will seem a fair idea / If you make it their idea” was Øye’s idea, yet it’s a trick that Glambek Bøe admits to using in the band.

“It’s funny how it describes something I often do with him, because in our relationship, Erlend tends to disagree with whatever I bring to the table. He will automatically disagree, and then I will need to let time pass, so he will forget that it was my idea – and he will start thinking it was his idea. And basically any progress that we’ve done in the field of Kings of Convenience happened through that protest phase, the oblivion phase, and then then ‘thinking that it’s your idea’ phase. So, the lines were written by Erlend but they’re very descriptive in how I see our relationship in the band.”

The musician Feist joins “Love Is a Lonely Thing” and “Catholic Country” as a third voice, yet she also served as a cheerleader. “She is our favorite singer and we respect her very much as a songwriter and artist,” Glambek Bøe says. “She didn’t actually write any of these songs, but she was in the studio telling us these songs were great. And that was very important because at that time we were starting to lose hope that there was any quality in any of these things that had been recorded during five years.”

Asked about those underlying effects in “Rocky Trail,” Glambek Bøe listens with amusement to the theories, but ultimately agrees with Øye.

“We’re a lot more dumb than that,” he says with a laugh. “A lot of times when we do something great, it’s pure accident. But we’re able to recognize the art in our mistakes. I think that’s our main quality. We are not masters of our trade, but when we do say something in a beautiful way, we are capable of recognizing, ‘Wait, that was actually pretty good!’”

There’s an element of familiarity that comes into play, too, and it stretches back into the late ‘90s, when they connected as budding musicians in Bergen, Norway, and began to write songs together. Even now, there’s a mystery about why it still works, and Glambek Bøe says he is perfectly content with that.

“I don’t know exactly what his contribution is going to do to my playing, but something happens in that meeting, and none of us are in control of it,” he says. “Being together as songwriters, we stumble upon accidents more frequently, because I will write a verse and Erlend will write a second verse and he will misinterpret what my point was. But that misinterpretation brings out another quality in the song, and then I realize that makes it so much better.”


Photo Credits: Lead photo courtesy of Grandstand HQ; Inset photo by Salvo Alibrio

WATCH: Rory Feek, “Time Won’t Tell”

Artist: Rory Feek
Hometown: Columbia, Tennessee
Song: “Time Won’t Tell” (written by Harlan Howard and Beth Nielsen Chapman)
Album: Gentle Man
Release Date: June 18, 2021
Label: Gaither Music Group

In Their Words: “I first heard this song in the mid-’90s when I was writing for Harlan Howard, and he and Beth wrote it. I’ve always loved it and my wife Joey and I even had it on a shortlist to record for her to sing one day. All these years later, the lyric is even more special to me. It’s been five years since Joey passed, and there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t wonder what life might be like if she was still here. If it was her tucking our little girl Indiana in bed at night and not just me. What the song says is so true… sometimes, ‘time won’t tell.'” — Rory Feek


Photo credit: Michael Hayes

LISTEN: Hannah Juanita, “Hard Hearted Woman”

Artist: Hannah Juanita
Hometown: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Song: “Hard Hearted Woman”
Album: Hardliner
Release Date: June 11, 2021

In Their Words: “Well, I’m glad I don’t feel like a ‘Hard Hearted Woman’ anymore! But that is how I felt coming out of my last relationship. Turning 30, moving back to Tennessee, and leaving the life I had built out West behind definitely had me feeling alone… but it was the good kind of alone. I may have felt hardened to love, but I was so ready and excited to do my own thing and make music. I remember well the night I wrote this song. All my friends were out honky-tonkin’ around Nashville, but I felt heavy-hearted and went home because it was time to sit down with my guitar and get this song written. It had been rolling around in my head for too long.” — Hannah Juanita


Photo credit: Jody Domingue

LISTEN: Kyle LaLone, “Learning How to Love”

Artist: Kyle LaLone
Hometown: Watertown, New York; living in Los Angeles
Single: “Learning How to Love”
Album: Looking for the Good
Album Release Date: June 25, 2021

In Their Words: “I wrote this song starting with the title, which is how I begin most songs now. I was thinking about the earliest relationships I had been in and how I would say ‘I love you’ but had no idea what that actually meant. In the last few years I feel like I’ve gotten a better understanding of how to be a good partner, how to really show up for someone in a relationship, and that it is something I will continue to improve on. As for the music, I was going for a classic, sweet-sounding country vibe that I thought would fit well with the tender sentiment of the lyrics. And having Michaela Anne, who is a wonderful singer-songwriter, add those beautiful harmonies was the icing on top of the cake.” — Kyle LaLone


Photo courtesy of Kyle LaLone

The BGS Radio Hour – Episode 203

Welcome to the BGS Radio Hour! Since 2017, the Radio Hour has been our weekly recap of all the great music, new and old, featured on the pages of BGS. This week, we’ve got music from CeeLo Green to Loretta Lynn! Remember to check back every week for a new episode.

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Loretta Lynn feat. Margo Price – “One’s On The Way”

Loretta Lynn’s original cut of this song made it to No. 1 on the charts in 1971. When Margo Price teamed up with Lynn to celebrate the latter’s 50th anniversary of “Coal Miner’s Daughter,” Price chose this song specifically, suggesting how legendary it was for Lynn to have sung about women’s rights and birth control in the country music of the ’70s. It’s still legendary today.

Todd Snider – “Turn Me Loose (I’ll Never Be the Same)”

“Turn me loose, I’ll never be the same!” is a phrase that rodeo cowboys used to yell when they were ready – something Snider first heard from Jerry Jeff Walker, but fitting himself perfectly. He asked the cosmos to provide a rock to put is foot on, and so the story goes, the new album from Todd Snider: First Agnostic Church of Hope and Wonder. 

DL Rossi – “Tumbling”

From Grand Rapids, Michigan, DL Rossi brings us a song from his upcoming album, Lonesome Kind. It’s a kind of youthful innocence, warming up to the harsher realities of life. And while we can’t opt out of our hurtful experiences, as Rossi suggests, we can share them to encourage one another.

Aaron Burdett – “Arlo”

North Carolina-based singer and songwriter Aaron Burdett compiled this song by noting quotes that his friend Arlo would say, collecting them for over 10 years. Arlo isn’t necessarily the character in the song, Burdett says, but character, someone who always has a bold thing to say.

CeeLo Green – “Slow Down”

CeeLo Green brings us a video for “Slow Down” from his latest album, CeeLo Green is… Thomas Calloway. From the writing of the song, to the recording and then making of the video, it was a completely expressive process for Green, who called it an “out of body experience.” Ironically titled, the song pulls the listener even closer into the climactic height of the record.

Natalie D-Napoleon – “Gasoline & Liquor”

Driving through the rural Mojave, D-Napoleon passed a sign that read “Gasoline and Liquor.” While she knew it would be a song, she thought it sounded like a man’s song, one written via passing lines back and forth with her husband. The video reflects the landscape of the “Wild Wests” of both the American desert and Western Australia, the places between which this artist splits her time.

Danny Paisley and the Southern Grass – “Date With an Angel”

Danny Paisley is the current reigning prince of Baltimore-D.C.-area bluegrass, a scene with rich history dating back to the 1950s. This week, Paisley and his band the Southern Grass bring us a song from their upcoming release, Bluegrass Troubadour. 

Aoife O’Donovan feat. Kris Drever – “Transatlantic”

Aoife O’Donovan is no stranger here at BGS, or anywhere in the roots community for that matter! Her work with artists like Crooked Still, I’m With Her, and the Goat Rodeo Sessions proves why that is. This week on BGS, she teams up with Scottish artist Kris Drever to bring us a message that we’ll all be together again.

Brigitte DeMeyer – “Salt of the Earth”

BGS caught up with Brigitte DeMeyer from San Francisco this week on a 5+5 – that is, 5 questions, 5 songs. We talked musical inspirations, songwriting techniques, and her mission statement: being herself.

Will Orchard – “Rita”

For Boston-based Will Orchard, this song is about trusting impulses, and the constant questioning of whether or not those feelings are valid. Written on tour in two parts separated by almost year, Orchard was able to combine them with the perspective of time, earning a place on his newly released album, I Reached My Hand Out. 

Helena Rose – “What’s Killing You is Killing Me”

Helena Rose wrote this song while struggling to tell a loved one how she felt about their addiction. Rose offers this song to others who have loved ones battling addiction, giving hope to the struggle, and showing that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Valerie June – “Smile”

As March has slipped away and we welcome April, we bid farewell to our March Artist of the Month, Valerie June. This song comes from her latest album, The Moon and the Stars: Prescriptions for Dreamers.

The Bones of J.R. Jones – “Bad Moves”

In celebration of his latest album, A Celebration, we caught up with the Bones of J.R. Jones for a 5+5, talking about performance memories, art forms, and songwriting techniques. Jones’ curated playlist brings us everything from Nina Simone to Bruce Springsteen to the White Stripes.

John Smith – “Friends”

The pandemic was hard on us all, no doubt, but for Wales-based John Smith, it just kept bringing the punches. Trying to make sense of it all, Smith brings us The Fray, his latest album in a 15-year career, teaming up with artists and friends like Sarah Jarosz and Bill Frisell.


Photos: (L to R) Margo Price by Bobbi Rich; Aoife O’Donovan by Rich Gilligan; Todd Snider by Stacie Huckeba

LISTEN: Ray Stevens, “Ruby / Ruby Baby”

Artist: Ray Stevens
Hometown: Clarkdale, Georgia
Song: “Ruby / Ruby Baby”
Album: Melancholy Fescue (High Class Bluegrass)
Release Date: March 26, 2021
Label: Curb Records

In Their Words: “I’ve been working in my recording studio for the last few years recording songs that I’ve heard all through my life. These new recordings are the ‘soundtrack of my life,’ so to speak. I had a great time making these records and I hope others will enjoy them too. … Taking classic hits like ‘Ruby’ and ‘Ruby Baby’ and putting them together in a different way is really fun for me. It shows that a great song holds on to its greatness no matter how you serve it up. Bluegrass-style takes some songs to another level of enjoyment. I love this process, and I think lots of other people probably like it too. I really hope so!” — Ray Stevens


Photo credit: Angela Talley

Harmonics with Beth Behrs: Carol Burnett

For the second episode of Season 2, we bring you a conversation between host Beth Behrs and legendary comedian, actor, singer, and entertainer Carol Burnett.

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Beth is still pinching herself after this interview with her hero: Carol Burnett has been the object of her idolization since childhood and is the ultimate reason Behrs is now a physical comedian. Not only has Burnett’s infectious comedic style influenced Behrs in every which way, but the two have both worked with CBS — for decades between them — and during the episode they bond over their shared experiences of working in front of a studio audience.

Burnett has had a long relationship with country music — the Carol Burnett Show featured country and roots artists and figures from Glen Campbell to Minnie Pearl. One episode included a parody of the CMA Awards: the Rural Music Awards, featuring Vicki Lawrence as one country singer, “Donna Cargo,” performing “S-P-L-I-T,” a gut-busting parody of Tammy Wynette’s “D-I-V-O-R-C-E.” Burnett even had a variety television special with the patron saint of Harmonics, Dolly Parton, filmed at the Grand Ole Opry House in Nashville in 1979.

In this amazing episode, Burnett tells her story of how not-so-random chance and divine intervention helped pave the way for her dreams of musical comedy that would become a lifelong career — one that would lead her to become the first woman to host a televised sketch comedy show.

She reminisces on friends and mentors — one in particular being Julie Andrews — who supported her on her way through show business and discusses the experience of being a woman in a “man’s game.”


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LISTEN: The Golden Roses, “When I’m Gone”

Artist: The Golden Roses
Hometown: Austin, Texas
Song: “When I’m Gone”
Album: Devil’s in the Details
Release Date: March 19, 2021

In Their Words: “Before I moved to Texas, I went to visit the grave of my grandfather. It was apparent no one had been there in years (myself included). I got to thinking about being forgotten after we die. My grandfather was a well-respected bluegrass man (a banjo picker). Unfortunately, he did his drinking Saturday mornings and not Saturday nights. I think he sent that song to me as a parting gift before my move.” — John Mutchler, The Golden Roses


Photo credit: Trista Alley

Tipping His Hat to a Hero, Charley Crockett Gives a “Lesson in Depression”

One of Texas’ brightest stars has just released new music in honor of a musical hero. Charley Crockett, the velvet-voiced monolith with a country and western sound, was a devoted student and fan of legendary Texas artist James “Slim” Hand. “If you listen to his writing style and the portraits he painted in his music, or that plaintive one of a kind voice he had, then you know he was without equal in our time,” said Crockett of the beloved singer-songwriter, who died in 2020.

To fulfill a promise made to his dear friend, Crockett released the full-length album, Lil’ G.L. Presents: 10 For Slim Charley Crockett Sings James Hand, in February. The record is a beautiful homage to a great artist, musician and Texan, and of course the music itself is performed with the highest degree of touch and style, two things for which Crockett is well-loved. Ahead of the record release, Crockett released a music video for “Lesson In Depression” that heavily features steel guitar and Crockett’s sultry baritone. Get your fix of classic country and celebrate the life and music of James Hand all while taking in the fresh yet familiar stylings of Charley Crockett.


Photo credit: Ryan Vestil

LISTEN: Sara Petite, “Missing You Tonight”

Artist: Sara Petite
Hometown: San Diego, California
Song: “Missing You Tonight”
Album: Rare Bird
Release Date: February 26, 2021
Label: JTM Music

In Their Words: “‘Missing You’ is a cool California country song about a broken heart. It takes place at sunset in Ocean Beach with a cotton candy pink sunset and the palm trees swaying… just like the hippies dancing on Newport Avenue to Michael Franti. Trying to enjoy yourself in the beauty while nursing a broken heart. Here’s the lyric: ‘We can’t be together, it’s hell being apart, it’s ripping through my soul and tearing up my heart. I try to move through the pain and wonder how you are? Do you think of me when I think of you or am I just scar? I’m missing you, missing you baby tonight.'” — Sara Petite


Photo credit: Sara Petite