Iâm rarely satisfied with the status quo. And I love roots music that is bona fide. Well, Iâve used up most of my Latin vocabulary very quickly.
I didnât know what “Tempus Fugit“ meant until I got a wonderful new song from Tim Stafford and Missy Raines, both great artists, writers, and old friends. Missy and I were together with our bands at Americanafest in Nashville in 2024. I was chatting with her and said, âWeâve been doing this a long time,â since we got acquainted in the 1980s, as we were both learning everything about the bluegrass community. Missy said, âYes, but we have heard so much great music and met so many wonderful people. And getting older isnât a bad thing!â Then she told me she and Tim had a song about the subject. I had to hear it and I loved it!
Our new single, “Time Adds Up (If You’re Lucky)” is out just a few weeks after the new gospel album from JMRR was released in March. Thankful and Blessed is a collection of eight new sacred songs and two revived oldies. Iâm grateful for the opportunity to deliver the spiritual message and provide an inspiring gospel collection, but Iâm thankful for a great variety of music, and Iâve been blessed by the powerful talents of great musicians, singers and songwriters of all kinds.
So, this Mixtape is truly a mix â some songs from the past that inspire me, a tune from the current JMRR gospel album, and our latest bluegrass single from an album releasing in the near future. Carpe diem! â Joe Mullins
“Time Adds Up (If Youâre Lucky)” â Joe Mullins & The Radio Ramblers
“Time Adds Up (If Youâre Lucky)” is the new bluegrass single by JMRR. “Tempus Fugit” are the first words of the song, meaning time flies. The lyrics were so relatable for me at this phase of life. I have been on stage with a banjo and on radio in some capacity since 1982. Now, over four decades later, I have my first grandchild â and sheâs gorgeous by the way!
Iâm not just lucky, Iâm thankful and blessed.
“My Ropinâ Days Are Done” â Blue Highway
Tim Stafford is such a great writer! This is a favorite recording of one of the most consistent bands of the past 30 years. Wayne Taylor sings with soul and the song is as lonesome as a one-car funeral procession.
“Yardbird” â Larry Cordle
Music has to be fun sometimes! I love a good sad song, but clever lyrics that are so entertaining have been penned by Larry Cordle for years. And the mighty Cord is a great singer, too. Cord is also one of my favorite people, one of those who you always look forward to seeing. Heâs been very supportive of my recording career, providing many songs. He and Larry Shell wrote âLord Iâm Thankfulâ in our new gospel album and a new working manâs song in the Radio Ramblers bluegrass album that releases soon.
“Andy – I Canât Live Without You” â Ashley McBryde
She has such a believable delivery, and this song is gritty and sincere. The beauty of simplicity canât be beat â a great voice, a killer song, and one guitar.
“Gonna Be Movin'” â Larry Sparks
Sparks is a stylist, both vocally and instrumentally. Heâs an original in every way. Iâm pretty sure he has his own zip code. Interestingly, Larry sings three of the four vocal parts in the quartet portions of this recording from the 1980s. Randall Hylton was a superb songwriter and performer whose home-going was way too soon. His bluegrass gospel songs will be enjoyed eternally and this is one of Randallâs best. I was fortunate to have a song from Randallâs catalog that was never recorded, and itâs the a cappella selection in our new album.
“Looking at the World Through a Windshield” â Daniel Grindstaff with Trey Hensley
One of East Tennesseeâs great banjo men, Daniel Grindstaff, produced one of my favorite recordings of 2024. I love good, driving country music. Iâve managed a small network of radio stations for many years and we feature a lot of hard-hitting country music from every era. Daniel and Trey nailed this old truckinâ tune with a contagious, grassy groove.
“Beneath That Lonely Mound of Clay” â George Jones & The Smoky Mountain Boys
Yes, itâs a sad song. Graveyard tunes have always been part of the bluegrass and country canon. But I want the world to be aware of this album. Jones went to the studio with Roy Acuffâs band in the very early 1970s and recorded his favorite Acuff songs. The album wasnât released until 2017. Iâm a huge fan of Georgeâs music from his six-decade career and he was in his prime here with an acoustic band that helped define country music on the Grand Ole Opry stage.
“Journey On” â Joe Mullins & The Radio Ramblers
If youâre enjoying the mixtape in order, we need something uplifting after our stop at the cemetery. This is a new song featuring the Ramblers quartet. The perseverance of the saints is celebrated in this tune from our new album Thankful and Blessed.
“From Lifeâs Other Side” â Lee Ann Womack
I was fortunate enough to produce an award-winning album during the pandemic. This song is on the 2021 IBMA Album of the Year, Industrial Strength Bluegrass. The album celebrates music I grew up on in my neighborhood, Southwestern Ohio. Dave Evans was an Ohio singer and songwriter with soul oozing out of every note he breathed, like Lee Ann Womack. Her treatment of one of Daveâs rare songs was a highlight of that album that is so special to me.
“Lonesome Day” â The Osborne Brothers
I must include an Osborne Brothers song, because Iâve listened to their music almost daily for my entire life. Bobbyâs vocal delivery and Sonnyâs banjo genius are among my greatest influences. This cut was produced about 1977. They went to the studio to record a collection of songs from their traditional bluegrass roots, after crossing over into mainstream country during the previous decade. Youâll be hard-pressed to find a more pure voice, and each instrument rings with huge tone because of the perfect touches, including Kenny Baker and Blaine Sprouse on fiddles, and the legendary Bob Moore on bass. Just turn it wide open on repeat!
The last Friday of March brings a weekly new music roundup that includes bluegrass, folk, Americana, and more!
Kicking us off, Boston-based Autumn Hollow have a new single, “After All of This Is Gone,” a jangly, deep-pocketed rocker that reflects on the new reality we all find ourselves living in â or perhaps coping with through abject denial â after the COVID pandemic. Bold Forbes also unveil the first half of an A Side/B Side single release, “Make Away,” a song that’s string band and folk revival combined, but in a twangy, modern sonic package.
Blue Cactus call on their friends Brit Taylor and Russ Pahl for “Bite My Tongue,” a track and accompanying music video that takes on inequalities, patriarchy, and injustice (with a danceable groove!). Susto Stringband also bring us a video on their album release day, “Double Crown.” It’s got an old-timey line up of instruments, but a decidedly pop sensibility, and it celebrates community â that is, their favorite neighborhood honky-tonk haunt in Asheville, the eponymous Double Crown.
We’ve got plenty of bluegrass herein, as well. Jaelee Roberts has a brand new single, which was co-written by two of her mentors, Tim Stafford and the late Steve Gulley. “Heavy As A Stone In Her Heart” floored Roberts with its lyrics and raw emotion and she just knew she had to cut it. Kristy Cox has a brand new music video for her new single, too, which features John Meador â who recently announced his departure from Authentic Unlimited to perform in Vince Gill’s touring band. Cox and Meador team up to great success on “In My Dreams,” which of course includes plenty of dreamy harmonies. Don’t miss North Carolina powerhouses Balsam Range with a new track, as well. “When It Comes to Loving You” was written by Daniel Salyer and Jeff McClellan, features Don Rigsby, and is built around Balsam’s classic, driving sound.
There’s plenty of excellent roots music to enjoy. You Gotta Hear This!
Autumn Hollow, “After All of This Is Gone”
Artist:Autumn Hollow Hometown: Boston, Massachusetts Song: “After All of This Is Gone” Album:Say No More Release Date: March 28, 2025 (single); May 2, 2025 (album)
In Their Words: “‘After All of This Is Gone’ reflects on the lingering impact of the pandemic and the rush to return to normal. As a teacher who returned to in-person work early, I saw how quickly the conversation shifted away from what we had all been through. There was little acknowledgment of the lasting changes â only an expectation to move forward. This song serves as a reminder that the effects of that time didnât simply disappear and that itâs important to recognize how they continue to shape us.” â Brendan Murphy
Balsam Range, “When It Comes To Loving You”
Artist:Balsam Range Hometown: Haywood County, North Carolina Song: “When It Comes to Loving You” Release Date: March 28, 2025
In Their Words: “The wait is over! From the first time I heard Daniel Salyerâs demo of ‘When It Comes to Loving You,’ I knew it would make a great Balsam Range song and I believe it has! Itâs our first new single since the release of our last album, Kinetic Tone, in December 2023, and I couldnât be more excited for music fans to hear it. With a cool groove and lyrics that are so well put together, I truly hope you all enjoy it as much as we do creating it. Me, Tim, Marc, and Alan are so excited to be joined by the great Don Rigsby on tenor vocal and fiddle. There will be no mistaking when you hear his powerful voice. Thanks to Daniel Salyer and Jeff McClellan for a great song!” â Caleb Smith
Track Credits: Caleb Smith â Acoustic guitar, lead vocal Tim Surrett â Bass, harmony vocal Marc Pruett â Banjo Don Rigsby â Fiddle, harmony vocal Alan Bibey â Mandolin
Bold Forbes, “Make Away”
Artist:Bold Forbes Hometown: New York City, New York Song: “Make Away” Release Date: March 27, 2025
In Their Words: “I wrote ‘Make Away’ after a dinner party I attended in Austin, Texas, some years back. I left the party feeling like ‘this is why one stays alive,’ but also I somehow mistrusted this feeling. What kinds of lives and labor went into producing the food we ate that night, how fragile was the peace that allowed us to meet so joyously and cavalierly, and how long would it last?
“I traveled to the central valley of California on a road trip the summer before â where so much of that nightâs food came from â and the rows and rows of crops seem to stretch forever in all directions away from you on that flat, hot road. Billboards line the highway with propaganda advertisements from the farm owners lobbying for more water from the state, with photographs of ‘family farmers’ â inevitably blond, white, crisp-collared people. Of course, very few of the thousands of workers working the rows of crops fit that description: people being criminally underpaid for doing the hardest work in the country and then being rhetorically savaged every day by this countryâs citizens who profit and benefit from this work.
“What does it mean to take pleasure in the daily indulgences of life in a society organized in this way? Could the daily sweetness of life ever merge with the struggle for a better, more just world? ‘Make Away’ is a song that prays for an answer to these questions.” â Nick Bloom
Track Credits: Nick Bloom â Rhythm guitar, lead vocals, songwriter Reid Jenkins â Fiddle, vocals David Halpern â Bass, vocals, guitar
Blue Cactus, “Bite My Tongue”
Artist:Blue Cactus Hometown: Chapel Hill, North Carolina Song: âBite My Tongueâ Album:Believer Release Date: April 25, 2025 Label: Sleepy Cat Records
In Their Words: “‘Bite My Tongue’ is a call to continue raising our voices and speaking out against injustice until we are finally heard. While weâve certainly made progress, the fight for equality is far from over. What I will say, and what this song is ultimately saying, is that the power has always been and will always be with the people; if it didnât, they wouldnât be trying to ban protests. Special thanks to Brit Taylor for singing with us on this song and to Russ Pahl for the guitar duet Marioâs always dreamed of.” â Steph Stewart
Track Credits: Steph Stewart â Vocals, acoustic guitar, songwriter Mario Arnez â Vocals, electric guitar Brit Taylor â Vocals Whit Wright â Pedal steel, producer Russ Pahl â Electric guitar Jonathan Beam â Bass Ryan Connors â Keys Taylor Floreth â Drums, percussion
Kristy Cox, “In My Dreams” (Featuring John Meador)
Artist:Kristy Cox Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee, by way of Adelaide, Australia Song: “In My Dreams” (feat. John Meador) Album: Let It Burn Release Date: May 31, 2024 Label: Billy Blue Records
In Their Words: “Iâm excited to release this new song and video with my friend John Meador for our song, ‘In My Dreams.’ I had a lot of fun writing and recording this track and love where Steve Kinney took the concept for the video.” â Kristy Cox
Jaelee Roberts, “Heavy As A Stone In Her Heart”
Artist:Jaelee Roberts Hometown: Nashville, Tennessee Song: “Heavy As A Stone In Her Heart” Release Date: March 28, 2025
In Their Words: “The first time I heard the demo of ‘Heavy As A Stone in Her Heart’ I was absolutely floored by the lyrics, melody, and raw emotion and knew without a doubt that I had to record it. Slow, sad songs that tell a story always speak to me most and this one absolutely stole my heart and broke it, too. ‘Heavy As A Stone in Her Heart’ is extra special to me because it was written by two of my favorite songwriters and singers that are also my mentors â Tim Stafford and Steve Gulley. I have looked up to Tim and Steve my entire life and I feel so grateful that this song made its way to me! ‘Heavy As A Stone In Her Heart’ came together so beautifully in the studio with a very stripped-down arrangement and without harmony vocals with the intention of focusing on the depth and feeling of the lyrics and I hope that it resonates with all of you the way it does with me. I so wish that Steve was still here with us but I know heâs listening from Heaven and this song is dedicated to him and his musical legacy.” â Jaelee Roberts
“I’m so glad that Jaelee Roberts is releasing ‘Heavy As A Stone In Her Heart’! Steve Gulley and I wrote this song back in 2007 and I know Steve would be absolutely thrilled at the news and to hear the song done so beautifully. Jaelee is a special talent and I can’t think of anyone who could have done a better job with this song.” â Tim Stafford
Track Credits: Jaelee Roberts â Vocals Byron House â Bass Cody Kilby â Acoustic guitar Andy Leftwich â Mandolin John Gardner â Drums Ron Block â Acoustic guitar
Susto Stringband, “Double Crown”
Artist:Susto Stringband Hometown: Asheville, North Carolina Song: “Double Crown” Album:Susto Stringband: Volume 1 Release Date: March 28, 2025 Label: New West Records
In Their Words: “This song is a tribute to one of our favorite dive bars in Asheville called The Double Crown. When we were living in Asheville, my wife Caroline and I would often go to The Double Crown for Western Wednesdays, where they feature lots of honky-tonk and adjacent genres of music. Sheâs from Texas, so it was fun for her to get a little slice of home when weâd go there on Wednesday nights to listen to the music, drink Lonestar, and two step a bit.
“One night in particular we were crossing the street to get to Double Crown and we just started making up a song about it. We finished it later on, but to this day the opening lines of this song remind me of crossing the street with her in the moonlight with the music coming from the bar and a bunch of folks (and dogs) crowded outside waiting to get in, or waiting at the window for drinks. The place had such a magical vibe for us that night, and Iâm so glad we captured it in a song.
“When we started working on the Susto Stringband album, I showed the tune to Clint (of Holler Choir) and Ryan (our producer) and they figured it would be very fitting to include it on the record, given that the whole project was born in Asheville and the song is not only a tribute to the double crown, but the whole scene Caroline and I found ourselves in when we lived there.” â Justin Osborne, Susto Stringband
“Justin really captures the essence of our local favorite bar, The Double Crown, in its truest form with this song, in my opinion. Western Wednesday is hosted there each week and has become an Asheville cultural staple. The images referenced in the lyrics âtwo-stepping and romances, both fleeting and permanent â are vivid and very real. The sweetness of the melody pairs perfectly with the sentiments I feel about this bar. Iâm very proud to be a part of this representation of a time and place that holds so much personal relevance for me.” â Clint Roberts, Holler Choir
Photo Credit: Balsam Range courtesy of the artist; Bold Forbes by Julia Discenza.
Russell Moore has been a professional musician and bandleader for 40 years and, though he wouldnât describe himself as complacent, he does readily admit he generally knows what he can expect from that job.
âIt’s almost like, âOkay, I know what this week is going to bring and what next week is going to bring,ââ he shares over the phone. âIt’s the same thing, even though you try to explore different opportunities ⌠I never would have thought that at this point in my career that this opportunity would arise.â
Back in early December 2024, Alison Krauss & Union Station announced their first headline tour in nearly ten years and, with that announcement, that Moore himself would be joining the band. The bluegrass community responded with an outpouring of love for Moore, his talent, and his iconic, long-running bluegrass band IIIrd Tyme Out while marveling at how perfectly he and his voice would fit into one of the most prominent, best-loved, and best-selling string bands in music history.
Once fears of IIIrd Tyme Out being benched were totally allayed â the band has lasted 34 years so far and has no plans to curtail their efforts with Mooreâs new gig â the âgrass community set their sights on the next announcement from AKUS, which came in January: Arcadia, their first album since 2011âs Paper Airplane, will release March 28.
Arcadia will be the starting pistol for a breakneck six-month tour that will find Alison Krauss & Union Station (and their newest member, Moore) criss-crossing the continent to perform at some of the most notable venues and festivals in the scene. Many of which Moore will find himself checking off his bucket list for the very first time.
To mark the occasion, and as we anxiously count down the weeks to Arcadia and the Arcadia Tour, we sat down with Russell Moore to chat about his career, his plans for IIIrd Tyme Out, and how energized and excited he is by this once-in-a-lifetime chance. As he puts it, he has very big shoes to fill â but perhaps he is the only one concerned about having the chops to fill them.
You’ve been leading your own band for so long and you’ve been the person to âmake the callâ â hiring a sideman, or hiring someone to fill in, or finding a new band member. So how does it feel at this stage in your career to get this kind of call to join a band like Allison Krauss & Union Station? How does it feel to be on the receiving end for a change?
Russell Moore: What a blessing. It’s definitely the other side of the fence! For 34 years I’ve been running IIIrd Tyme Out and making the decisions or helping make the decisions. That’s a job in itself. You wear many different hats when you’re doing that.
The last time that I was in a situation like I’m going into with AKUS was back when I was with Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver. That was basically, âI’m the guy that plays guitar and I singâ and everything else was pretty much taken care of. Since then, up âtil now with IIIrd Tyme Out, I’ve been heavily involved with all the decisions and making things happen, which like I said, it requires several different hats to wear day-in and day-out.
This is going back to that time, before IIIrd Tyme Out. And I’m excited about it. It really gives me the opportunity to focus totally on the music and my part in the band, rather than anything else that goes along with running a band. That’s exciting in itself. I will say, it’s going to take some getting used to, because I know that I’m going to be saying, âOh, what can I do today to help this thing out?â That’s going to be a change of pace for me!
But I’m looking forward to it. Honestly, I’m looking forward to not having to worry about anything else other than my position in AKUS and just doing my job to the best of my ability and that’s it. That’s gonna be pretty cool. I guess you would say a little weight off of my shoulders.
You can set down the CEO hat and pick up the âbeing an instrumentalist and a vocalist and a technicianâ hat. Of course itâs got to feel exciting in some ways to get to step back into that role of being an equal part collaborator in a band instead of having to wear so many hats and having to be a lightning rod for everything.
RM: It is. It definitely is. I did experience just a little bit of this a few years ago. Jerry Douglas called and asked if I could go out for a few days with the Earls of Leicester, which I did and it was the same thing. I played mandolin and I sang my harmony parts with Shawn [Camp]. And I didn’t have to do anything else. That was all I had to do. For a few days there, I got to relieve myself of all the responsibilities of running a touring band on the road, and it was cool. I enjoyed it. I really did.
I’m not going to lie, I’m not saying that I don’t enjoy running a band, I’m not saying that whatsoever! But it was nice to step back for a few days and just be that. So I see this, for the six months between April and September, being sort of in the same picture. I wanna focus everything I can, all the time I’ve got, on playing the music, being in the position that I’m in, and doing the best I can. Just focusing on that. That’s going to be cool. I’m not going to have to worry about, âDid the bus get there on time? Is there something wrong with the bus?â
I know I’m not the only one who was super excited to hear this news and also thought immediately, âI never would have connected these dots myself, but who else has a better voice for that gig?â You think of Dan Tyminski, of Adam Steffey, the guys who have been singing vocals in this band, they have that sort of warm, honeyed, Mac Wiseman-like bluegrass voice â less of the high lonesome and piercing, even though you have the range and you can get up there, too.
So many people’s reaction to the announcement was that you have a voice that’s perfect for this gig and for what we all come to expect as the AKUS sound. Did you have that realization too? Did you think, âOh yeah, this is perfect for my voiceâ? Or did you feel like, âI’m going to have to work at this.â
What was your general reaction, musically, to coming into this? Not just as a guitarist, but also as a vocalist â and then, I assume you’ll be playing some mandolin too, like you said you were doing with Earls of Leicester. So how are you approaching it musically?
RM: I will be playing a little bit of mandolin, not a whole lot, but my main gig I guess you’d say would be playing guitar and vocals â harmony vocals and some lead vocals as well. I’ll be honest with you, Justin, I was concerned about some of the harmony singing. That’s the biggest thing.
It’s really intricate.
RM: It is very intricate! It’s not in the same breath that I usually sing at. I tend to sing very full throated. For lack of a better term, it’s a male voice trying to sing very high. I do it in a robust way. I do have subtleties that I use as well, but this application of trying to blend with Alison’s voice is a different place to be, for me, for sure.
I do sing harmony and I have for years, here and there, but still my vocal technique has always been full throated and far more harsh, a male vocalist trying to sing very high. This is a different application. I tried to do that on all the songs that I’m going to be singing harmony on with Alison, it would be too abrasive. I’m learning how to make it work with my voice and her voice. That is a really nice combination, [you donât want] me standing out because of my approach to the harmony.
Of course, I do have songs that I’ll be singing lead on. Those, I’m just back to my old self doing my thing. But when it comes to the harmony stuff, most of the time I’m having to really listen and focus on how to project my voice to make her sound as best as she can and not interfere.
Are you going to be singing lead on some of your own music with AKUS?
RM: No. There might be one song, and I’m not going to give away any of the stuff that she has planned for the set list, but there might be one song that people recognize from IIIrd Tyme Out during the performance. For the most part, this is Union Station. We’re not trying to bring in Russell Moore and IIIrd Tyme Out into the project whatsoever. We’re still around, we’re going to be performing when I’m not on the road with AKUS. There might be a small ode to IIIrd Tyme Out during the show, but it will be very small.
I’m not here to promote IIIrd Tyme Out with Alison Krauss. I’m here to promote Alison Krauss & Union Station and to be a part of that group and promote what this record release is and the stage show. I am a team player and I told them all, âYou’ll never find anybody that’s more of a team player than I am, because I understand what that means.â
You’ve seen it on both sides. I’m glad you mentioned IIIrd Tyme Out continuing, because I think a lot of people’s natural reaction to the news was, âWhat about IIIrd Tyme Out!?â Of course IIIrd Tyme Outâs been going for so long, they’re gonna keep going.
RM: IIIrd Tyme Out is here to stay. When the conversations started about my being a part of Union Station going forward, I had a lot of questions. Can I do this? Should I do this? And that was one of them: âWill my band support me in this decision, or if I say yes, will they support me?â
[I consulted] my family, my wife, and everybody around me â it wasn’t a decision that was made quickly. I had to talk to people. Once I talked to my band members and I got their total support and thumbs-up affirmation â along with my wife, family, and friends â it was just like, âOkay, I have no reason not to do this. Everybody says I should and it’s a great opportunity.â At that point, I said yes.
Hopefully I can fulfill the position, because it’s not easy shoes to fill. I can tell you that right now I’m a huge Dan Tyminski fan. I have been since he came onto the scene way back â we’re talking Lonesome River Band days. He is so unique and his position with Union Station, until recently with his own band, that was the epitome of his career in my opinion.
Then, of course, he gets the head nod for Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? And the Stanley Brothers song, âMan of Constant Sorrow,â it’s still incorporated into his shows. I love the Stanley Brothersâ [version of the] song. I really do. But when I think about that song, I think about Dan Tyminski.
I guess the point is I’m a huge fan of Dan and his work. He is such an intricate part of what Union Station has been up to now. I think that those are big shoes to fill. I just hope I can facilitate that to everybody’s liking. I know there’s going to be some people that say, âNo, it’s not Dan, it’s just not the same.â But I do want to say there are [many] eras of Union Station that were awesome, as well. You go back to when other people were in the group. Adam Steffeyâ
I’m partial to the Alison Brown era, too.
RM: Alison Brown! Oh, gosh, yes. Tim Stafford along that same time. I can’t say there’s been a bad ensemble for AKUS. Itâs just evolved. And the fact that Dan was there for so long, that kind of solidifies that is the sound that most people â especially younger people who didn’t really start listening to AKUS until let’s say 20 years ago â are hearing. What they’re hearing is Dan Tyminski on guitar, singing harmony, and singing lead. That’s what they’re used to. That’s what they realize is AKUS music, and here’s this Texas guy coming in here trying to fill those shoes. I just hope I can satisfy everybody. I’ll do the best I can.
Alison Krauss & Union Station shot by Randee St. Nicholas with Russell Moore second from right.
It’s gotta feel exciting, especially after having done something like this your whole entire life, to have that sort of childlike wonder at it feeling so brand new and so fresh. Even after you have done literally exactly this for so long, there are still things that you’re excited to accomplish and new territory you’re excited to explore. That sounds really energizing and really positive.
RM: It is energizing. I’ll be honest, Justin, I’ve been playing music full time for a good 40 years. That’s awesome. And at this point, after 34 years of IIIrd Tyme Out â I’m not going to say I’ve become complacent, but it’s almost like, âOkay, I know what this week is going to bring and what next week is going to bring.â It’s the same thing, even though you try to explore different opportunities and things that come within that.
But this, I never would have thought that at this point in my career that this opportunity would arise and Iâd get to do something like this. Because, like I said, I’m not so much complacent, but I know what’s ahead. When the phone call was made and we talked, I had no idea that I had another option, another fork in the road. This is absolutely surreal, in a lot of ways, for me to get this opportunity and without giving up IIIrd Tyme Out. All the support from everybody that I know, like I said, there was no reason to say no.
Another part of this that I’m really excited about [is being] able to experience some of these places, these venues, these shows that I’ve never been to before. Just being able to experience it â like playing Red Rocks Amphitheatre â and just so many places that I’ve always wanted to go to and perform at. I’m going to get to do that!
Checking them off the bucket list.
RM: There you go. It wouldn’t be possible, I don’t believe, with IIIrd Tyme Out. I was always exploring new opportunities and things like that, but I don’t think it would have been possible to perform at some of these places without being a part of AKUS.
To me, âLooks Like the End of the Road,â the first single from the upcoming album, feels like classic AKUS. The So Long, So Wrong era is what it reminded me of first. You still have those tinges of adult contemporary, you have the pads and the synth-y sound bed underneath it, and it almost feels transatlantic a bit here and there. Overall, it sounds like classic, iconic Allison Krauss & Union Station. What are your thoughts or feelings on the single or what can you tell us about that first track?
RM: I think that the song is a great representation of what is coming out with the full album release, Arcadia. It is a great nod to Alison Krauss & Union Station music over the last several years and the last several recordings.
I think that the song itself is just well written and perfect for Alison to sing. There’s a small part of harmony vocals â and what I love about the way she constructs her arrangements is that it’s not overdone with harmonies. This is Alison Krauss & Union Station, it’s not just Union Station. So the focus is on Alison and her vocals. In my opinion, that’s the way it should be. This song doesn’t come out from the get go with a five-string banjo just blasting off. It’s a great construction of the arrangement and the vocals.I think it was perfect.
The only thing that people have said is that the title itself made them think that this was the end of Allison Krauss & Union Station! Which is so far detached from the truth. It was just the first single that was released. It’s a beautifully constructed song. I will say, this song is just a piece of the puzzle to the rest of the recording. It just paints a beautiful picture and a wonderful listening experience. When people get to hear the full album, they’ll understand what I’m talking about. It’s just awesome. It’s just, it’s a piece of the puzzle.
You’re going to be blown away. Absolutely blown away, as I was. I had my headphones on. I can’t tell you how many nights before I’d go to sleep, Iâd have my headphones on [listening]. I listened to it two, three times a night, just because it was so enjoyable. It was just that good. I know that everybody else is gonna feel the same way when they hear the whole project.
Though Randall Deaton’s excellence as a producer and engineer has been well known for many years in the bluegrass world, he had taken a hiatus from music for nearly nine years before returning in 2024. His latest venture is both a conceptual and musical triumph. The new release, Silver Bullet Bluegrass (Lonesome Day Records), pays tribute to the great rocker Bob Seger with an all-star corps of bluegrass vocalists and instrumentalists performing his tunes reworked, bluegrass style. The lineup of performers includes Gary Nichols, Tim Shelton, Shonna Tucker, Bo Bice, Tim Stafford, Bill Taylor, Larry Cordle, and more.
The project’s origin dates back even further, as Deaton detailed during a recent extensive interview with BGS conducted via email.
“(I got the idea) probably sometime around 2009,” Deaton said. “We released records by the band Blue Moon Rising and Ralph Stanley II in 2008 and each of those records contained songs that were pulled from non-traditional bluegrass sources. Blue Moon Rising did a cover of Bruce Springsteenâs ‘Youngstown’ and Fred Eaglesmithâs ‘Freight Train,’ while Ralph II did Elton Johnâs ‘Georgia’ and Townes Van Zandtâs ‘Loretta.’ I brought all those songs to the artists and I was really pleased with the way they turned out. They ended up being very legitimate takes on the songs without having any of the ‘pickinâ on’ vibe. I think the first thoughts of a Seger bluegrass record came from the idea of wondering how ‘Hollywood Nights’ would sound in a bluegrass style.”
However, the project took longer to happen than anticipated. “The overall recording process took over 12 years, but that was because I took about an eight year break from music in the middle to pursue other things,” Deaton continued. “The original challenge was to track the songs without the final lead vocalist. Seger is such a great vocalist and can comfortably sing in keys that most other male singers canât, so I had to consider which keys to track some of the songs in. Some songs I left in the original keys and just knew that those songs needed to stay right there. Other songs we dropped down a step or so in order to have more options when it came to finding the right singer. The actual studio work was pretty easy once we knew who was doing what.”
“A great deal of the tracking band was the same group of musicians that we used on a record by Jeff Parker entitled Go Parker!” Deaton continued. “Mike Bub, Stephen Mougin, Ned Luberecki, and Shawn Brock all had plenty of experience playing and recording traditional bluegrass, but they also had experience outside of that â including Mike playing with Steve Earle on The Mountain record and Stephen touring with Sam Bush. Ned is a very progressive banjo player and Shawn is simply one of the best musicians I know. Other musicians were added based on what I thought the track needed. We used several fiddle players on this record and each of them brought something special and unique.”
When asked about personal favorites from the session Deaton responded: “The first singer to agree to perform on the record was Josh Shilling of the band Mountain Heart. He did “Main Street.” He did such an awesome job on that song that he set a bar for the rest of the record. That song is definitely one of my favorites. I am also partial to that track, because Megan Lynch [Chowning] played my grandfatherâs fiddle on that track. It was just an old catalog fiddle from the 1930s, but I was told that he used to sit on the front porch and play it.”
“He passed away before I was born, but somehow I ended up with the fiddle. I think it is really neat that the same fiddle is doing that signature melody on ‘Main Street.’ The last two vocals that we recorded for the record were the Carson Peters and Bill Taylor tracks. Producing those vocals and in Carsonâs case the fiddle was the first time I had been in a studio in many years and I wasnât sure how effective I would be after so much time away. I am very proud of how those tracks turned out because they made me feel like I could do this again in the future if the right situation came up.”
An interesting thing about Deaton is bluegrass wasn’t his initial musical love growing up. “When I was a kid, we listened to country music around the house,â he recalled in his bio. âI knew more about Exile than I did about The Police. I knew a little bit about bluegrass, but I didnât really get into bluegrass until I started learning how to play guitar. All the people that I could play with around home were mostly playing bluegrass music. Thatâs how I really got introduced to it.â
From that early start as a guitarist, Deaton converted a church left him by his grandmother in 1999 to a studio and started focusing on engineering. That led to the creation of the Lonesome Day label, which took its name off a Springsteen tune. Their first project was by Eastern Kentucky bluegrass artist Sam Wilson. The label soon became celebrated in bluegrass circles for turning out both hits and classic albums by a host of greats. The list includes Jeff Parker, Lou Reid, Blue Moon Rising, Larry Cordle, Steve Gulley, Ralph Stanley II, Ernie Thacker, Darrell Webb, Richard Bennett, Shotgun Holler, Wildfire, Fred Eaglesmith, and more.
Deaton’s accomplishments aren’t limited solely to the music world. He’s overcome retinitis pigmentosa, a genetic condition that affects nerve cells in the retina that causes functional failure and an inability to transmit information from the eye to the brain. But that hasn’t prevented Deaton from continuing his brilliance in the studio, nor from expanding into other musical areas as a label owner and producer. In 2011, Lonesome Day would release Sweet Nothings by Girls Guns & Glory â now known as Ward Hayden & the Outliers â which was produced by Paul Kolderie and recorded in Boston.
Kolderie would later produce Tim Sheltonâs album, Jackson Browne Revisited. In 2014, A second Girls Guns & Glory project titled Good Luck was produced by Eric âRoscoeâ Ambel. Prior to taking his break from music, Deaton’s label would also issue three albums by bluegrass guitar master Richard Bennett. But, by 2015, Deaton was both a bit disillusioned by some things happening in the music business and ready to do something else.
“Something else” included converting his music studio into an AirBnb, investing in short-term rentals in Eastern Kentucky, and later buying resorts in two different areas in Michigan, as well as a restaurant. Deaton also did a bit of concert promotion in the meantime. Eventually, he’d return to making music, with the latest result being Silver Bullet Bluegrass.
When asked about his favorite projects over his career, Deaton offers these selections:
“I really like the work I did with the band Blue Moon Rising. Their first record, On The Rise, was very well received and made me feel like I could make records that would find their place in the bluegrass genre. The second record I did with them entitled, One Lonely Shadow, is the record that contained ‘Youngstown’ and to me that is still probably the single best record I have been a part of. The song selection, the performances, and the engineering work of Mike Latterell are all outstanding. I am also very proud of the Ralph Stanley II record entitled, This One Is II. Again, the performances and song selections were outstanding and Mike also tracked and mixed this record.”
“We did both of these records in the same timeframe so they are kind of linked for me,” he continued. “These are consistently the two records that people still bring up to me saying that one of them is their favorite. One of my very first things that I still think guided me was my work on the record entitled Time by Lou Reid & Carolina. This was a band record and most everything on the record was done by Louâs current band. Lou brought the song ‘Time’ that ended up being the title track to the record and it was clear to me that the song needed more than just what the band could bring.”
“We ended up using some great outside musicians,” he continued, “Such as Ron Stewart, Randy Kohrs, and Harold Nixon to get a track that was more solid. We also ended up getting Vince Gill and Ricky Skaggs to sing on the track. The final track turned out great and it ended up being a #1 song on the Bluegrass Unlimited chart in 2005. The song was also a challenge, because I felt like I was pushing for greatness and the artist was taking into account other things besides the record â such as the feelings of the band (which also included his then wife) and how those considerations would always be there moving forward. I always thought that if you were going to make a record you should do everything that is possible to make it as good as it can be within the means that you have.”
Deaton hesitates to pick personal favorites in terms of artists he’s worked with, but acknowledges a few names. “That is a tough one, because I have worked with so many talented people. Since I am such a proponent for great records, I would have to say that the audio engineers that I have worked with are always very special to me. In the very beginning I worked a lot with a guy named Harold Nixon and Harold introduced me to Ron Stewart.”
“Harold and Ron were very big parts of a lot of the Lonesome Day work from the beginning through when I got out in 2015. I also did a lot of work with Mike Latterell starting in 2005. Mike is one of the best audio engineers that I know and we still keep in touch to this day. I also had the chance to work with Brandon Bell on a couple records. He is also an incredible engineer and just a great guy in the studio. Gary Nichols introduced me to Jimmy Nutt back around 2013 or so, and he has been awesome to work with on this Silver Bullet Bluegrass record. When I got back in the studio in 2023 with Carson Peters, Jimmy made me feel like it was just yesterday that we were in the studio together, not eight years ago. Jimmy and his wife Angie have also become great friends to me and my wife, Shelagh, so if there is music in my future Jimmy will definitely be involved.”
“One musician that I have known for years, but never have worked with is Shawn Camp,” is Deaton’s first response when asked about possible future collaborations. “I think he is so talented and such a nice guy that I would love to work with him sometime in the future. A lot of the singers on Silver Bullet Bluegrass I had worked with in the past. Carson Peters and Bill Taylor were great in the studio and I think they have immense talent and I would like to work with those guys sometime in the future.”
As for possibly adapting other musicians’ tunes to the bluegrass idiom, Deaton immediately cites one name. “I think it would be great to do a Bruce Springsteen record. I am a big Springsteen fan and even named my label after one of his songs. Iâve lost count of the number of [his] concerts I have been to, but it is well over 100 from 1999 to 2024.”
His first response to the final question, regarding what’s next for his label, is “I don’t know.”
“I have been really focused on finally getting Silver Bullet Bluegrass finished and released that I havenât thought about anything else. The landscape of the music business has changed so much since I started that I am in the middle of a learning curve again. I know that I like making records and I know that I donât need to make records in order to make money. Whatever I end up doing, if anything, I want it to be fun and I want to at least think that it may matter somehow.”
(Editor’s Note: Below, Grammy award and IBMA award winner, guitarist, songwriter, and author Tim Stafford pays tribute to his friend, collaborator, and one-of-a-kind banjo picker and historian, Jim Mills, who passed away at the age of 57 on May 3.)
I started out as a banjo player, but switched to guitar early on; our little group got a better banjo player. But Iâve always loved the banjo, especially pile-driving, inventive players like Earl Scruggs, J.D. Crowe, Paul Silvius, Ron Stewart, Ron Block, Sammy Shelor, Jason Burleson, so many others. I especially like playing rhythm guitar with a great banjo player â itâs like a bluegrass drum track. Iâve not enjoyed that feeling any more than when I got to play with Jim Mills.
Jim was a force of nature on the banjo. He was such a fluid, powerful player and he could be very aggressive on the instrument, which stood in strict opposition to his demeanor â they didn’t call him “Smiling Jimmy Mills” by accident. He played things on record that I had to continually rewind. How did the banjo survive that?
(L-R:) Barry Bales, Stuart Duncan, Jim Mills, Adam Steffey, Tim Stafford, and Brent Truitt, Nashville, TN 1998. Photo by Mike Kelly.
Once in the studio, I remember Jim breaking a string on the intro to “Bear Tracks,” a pretty hilarious outtake. It sounded like the world had exploded in the headphones. Jim just said, âWhat the ?!??!?â and Barry Bales let out a huge laugh â we had never heard anything like it.
It amazed me how eloquently Jim could talk in quiet rapid stretches and at length about everything related to old, Gibson flathead banjos. Like most vintage instrument topics, itâs a field of deep arcana, and the club sometimes seems too exclusive even if you truly love the sound of the things. But Jim never made it seem like anything but pure joy when he spoke, always returning to that million dollar smile. He was sharp, his collection of instruments was unrivaled, and he turned the basement of his house into a showroom.
And boy, did he know Earl Scruggs and his playing â inside out, all his instruments, all the bootleg recordings, even ephemera related to Flatt & Scruggs. He collected it and treasured it all, because it had never really gotten any better than Earl as far as Jim was concerned. The fact that Jimâs “desert island banjo” was Mack Croweâs 1940 gold-plated RB-75 was validated for him by the fact that Scruggs himself mentioned Crowe as an influence on his playing in his 1968 book Earl Scruggs and the Five-String Banjo. Of course, Jim wrote his own definitive book, Gibson Mastertone: Flathead Five-String Banjos of the 1930s and 1940s.
Extremely intelligent, driven people are usually good at whatever they put their minds to. Tony Riceâs passion was restoring and repairing Bulova Accutron watches, and he was considered an authority in that area of expertise by people who had no idea he even played guitar. Ricky Skaggs told me that Mills was very involved in buying and trading antique shotguns as well as banjos and was just as well known in that arena.
It was all part of one cloth for Jim, though. A third-generation banjoist, a native son of North Carolina â the homeplace of the bluegrass banjo and a place so many great players still call home. When he joined Ricky Skaggsâs Kentucky Thunder, it was on one condition â he was staying in North Carolina.
We first met in the early ’90s when he was playing with Doyle Lawson and I was part of Alison Krauss and Union Station. He, Barry Bales, Adam Steffey, and I jammed for hours one day in Tulsa, Oklahoma as I recall. One of the songs he wanted to do repeatedly was âJohn Henry Blues.â
A few years later, the three of us played on Jim’s first solo record, Bound to Ride, for Barry Poss and Sugar Hill records. We tracked it at Brent Truitt’s Le Garage studio along with Stuart Duncan. Later Jerry Douglas overdubbed and Ricky Skaggs, Alan O’Bryant and Don Rigsby came in for guest vocals. And I sang “John Henry Blues.” It was such an honor to be on this record. Later on he did an instructional DVD for John Lawless and Acutab and I ended up backing him up on some tunes there.
I also played on a few records with Jim during this time, including Alan Bibeyâs In the Blue Room. Near the end of a Patrick McDougal song called âCounty Fool,â after the last chorus, I knew Jim was going to come roaring in, taking us out to the end of the song. In anticipation, I hit a G-run that ended on the downbeat, on the bottom root note, a very unusual place for a G-run. I was sure engineer Tim Austin and producer Ronnie Bowman would want me to do it over, but they liked it so it stayed. Today I listen to that track and Iâm the one whoâs smiling â Jim could make you do things like that.
Jim wasn’t just a banjo player â he was a fine all-around musician and singer. His lead, fingerpicked guitar playing was superb and he was a fine songwriter. One year he came up to me at IBMA and said he had a demo of a song he’d written that he was sure Blue Highway could do. The demo was just him playing all the instruments and singing and it knocked my socks off. He had pitched it to Skaggs, but the boss man passed. The tune was based on a documentary Jim had seen and was called “Pikeville Flood.” We cut it on the Midnight Storm record and it remains one of our most popular live songs.
It was always a pleasure to see Jim and just get to hang out with him. Can’t believe I won’t get the chance to do that again. RIP buddy.
Tim Staffordâs 97-year-old mother, Bernice, still saves newspapersâbig stacks of yellowing back issues, should she ever need to retrieve some scrap of local intel. She will clip the occasional notice from those aging pages and dispatch them to her son Tim Stafford, too. The Blue Highway cofounder and former member of Alison Krauss & Union Station now lives 40 miles south of his Kingsport, Tenn., hometown.
Late in 2021, Bernice didnât even need to cut and post. Instead, she simply handed him a recent series from the Kingsport Times News and pointed at Kinnie Wagner. An Appalachian outlaw, Wagner ran off with the circus, ran moonshine for a sheriff, and repeatedly ran away from jail after killing multiple cops nearly a century earlier. The saga might be a song, Stafford thought, but Bernice just wanted her son to know he was also a dashing folk legend.
âHe was this self-styled ladies man. Have you seen pictures of him, that Harry Houdini haircut?â Stafford, 62, says, laughing from his home outside of Greeneville, Tenn. âShe wanted to let me know that her grandmother thought he was the stuff. He was a local hero.â
Despite a masterâs degree in history from nearby East Tennessee State University and a lifelong enthusiasm for Appalachian lore, Stafford had never heard of Wagner. As he began to ponder the renegade, complexities emergedâhis deification by disenchanted locals as a Robin Hood acolyte whose funeral was allegedly attended by 10,000, his vilification by locals who had lost family members to a murderer, the gray area in between. âIn the â20s, before mass media, it was easy to build up this myth,â Stafford says. âBut good or bad, itâs the sort of thing that needs to be preserved. His story was definitely a lost voice.â
âThe Ballad of Kinnie Wagnerâ is now an early standout on Lost Voices, an absorbing debut LP written and recorded alongside Nashville songwriter Thomm Jutz. Above darting banjo and pensive fiddle, the pair relay a first-person synopsis of Wagnerâs deeds and misadventures, ending on twin notes of resignation and redemption.
That sense of sympathetic storytelling indeed shapes most of Lost Voiceâs 14 tales, from a barnstorming Black baseball team in the Appalachian foothills to the regionâs amateur physicians and midwives who healed with home remedies passed among generations and neighbors. Lost Voices is a thematically sprawling bluegrass record, reaching across multiple decades, disparate traditions, and far-flung regions to offer cautionary and sometimes complicated accounts alongside songs of hopeful redemption. Think of it as Howard Zinnâs hidden American histories meets Wilma Dykemanâs ethnographic Appalachian books, bound by an unfailingly poised melodies.
âBluegrass is all about sad stories, morbid storiesâmurder ballads, you know?â Stafford says. âBut one thing I have learned is that there are very few topics that canât be songs. And some of the ones we have written are pretty far out.â
Jutz may, at first glance, seem like an unlikely writing partner for these songs of the rural South. Born in 1969 in Germanyâs southwest corner, not far from the Swiss and French borders amid the Black Forest, he is a classically trained guitarist. But a 1981 television performance by Bobby Bare captivated him, prompting an obdurate interest in country and its kin.
âThe allure of this music is that it lives in the past and present at the same time, but itâs almost easier to learn about it if you look to the past,â says Jutz, 53, between classes at Nashvilleâs Belmont University, where he teaches songwriting. âBut I didnât live in an environment where that was around me, so I had to find it in literature and music. So Iâve always been interested in American history.â
In 2002, Jutz landed a âdiversity visaâ and emigrated to Nashville a year later, soon pulling triple duty as a producer, touring guitarist, and songwriter. The tunes seemed to pour out. After meeting The SteelDrivers’ Tammy Rogers at a Music City industry soiree in 2016, for instance, their regular writing sessions yielded an astonishing 140 songs before the pair finally released a dozen last year.
He found an even faster rhythm with Stafford, especially after most cowriting sessions reverted to Zoom during pandemic lockdowns. Stafford had played on Jutzâs sharp 2016 solo debut, Volunteer Trail, but their work together first trickled in, with maybe five songs finished during Staffordâs occasional sojourns west to Nashville. During the pandemic, Jutz used the break from touring to earn a graduate degree in Appalachian Studies from Staffordâs alma mater. Theyâd meet several times a week online and talk about stories theyâd recently learned, two regional history buffs swapping new finds. Theyâve now finished more than 100 songs together, each an attempt to give volume to one of these so-called lost voices.
âWeâd catch up a little bit first: Whatâs been happening since last week? What have you been reading? Guitars, whatever,â remembered Jutz. âBut we had this running list of titles, concepts, and scenes we wanted to write about, all distinctly American. Our cowriting sessions are expensiveâwe always end up buying books because we talk so much about what we read.â
For his coursework, for instance, Jutz had to dive into The Dollmaker, the lauded 1954 novel by Kentucky writer Harriette Arnow, a tragic work that exposed the unstable underbelly of transitioning from tolerable rural penury to tempting urban prosperity. Stafford had already read it and even gotten to know the family, so discussions of its painful plot flowed. The pair reduced it into four graceful and heartsick minutes, a tender ballad for whatâs left behind when you leave tradition in the rearview. On Lost Voices, Dale Ann Bradley delivers the resulting “Callie Lou” with lived-in sympathy, as if she too has shielded her eyes from bright city lights.
Stafford, on the other hand, recommended Where Dead Voices Gather, Nick Toschesâ fraught and freewheeling biography of Emmett Miller, a yodeling star of early 20th-century blackface minstrelsy. His commercial participation in that vile, racist system helped foster country music and all the pop that followed. How would Miller feel, they wonder aloud in âVaudeville Blues,â to live on infamy and influence? He is neither a sympathetic figure nor abject villain here, just a person weighed down by his choices.
âHe informed so many people, from Jimmie Rodgers to Hank Williams,â says Stafford. âBut heâs this cat who was so misty that we donât know much about him. I like that approach.â
Just then, Stafford brings up Jesus, zigging in a way that reflects not only his debut with Jutz but also the ecumenical approach to their partnership at large. As the worldâs largest religion, Christianity doesnât represent a lost voice, per se, but many of its core tenetsââturn the other cheek, do unto others, all very revolutionary stuff,â Stafford saysâhave been largely discarded in the commodified modern American iteration. The pair harmonizes sweetly during âRevolutionary Love,â more a non-denominational hymn of forgiveness and forbearance than some attempt to proselytize. It feels like a campfire hymn.
Lost Voicesâ most disarming quality, though, might be how Stafford and Jutz sing about their subjects with the elan of students and not the stolid erudition of professors, which they have both been. There is a sense of delighted wonder as they deliver âThe Blue Grays,â an admiring portrait of a Black baseball team in Elizabethton, Tenn., that proved a formidable foe for two decades. âCode Talker,â their ode to the indigenous Americans whose native languages became an indispensable cryptological tool during World War II, not only celebrates their accomplishments but lampoons their cross-generational oppression in the United States.
This isnât a political record, Stafford says, but itâs hard not to feel its gentle push for inclusion, empathy, and appreciation, extended far beyond people who happen to look like you. âI know the bias against bluegrass, this music, and the region itself. Some of those stereotypes are based in reality,â offers Stafford. âBut there is diversity here, mystery, and these stories are not that hard to find.â
Lost Voices is the public launch of the prolific Stafford-Jutz tandem, not at all the culmination. Jutz has already gone through his Civil War phase; the first song the pair wrote together was actually about it. He is now deeply invested in how the Roaring â20s gave way to Whimpering â30s and how those decades continue to shape culture a century later. Decades ago, Stafford gave up his doctoral pursuits (âthe application of metaphor theory to the history of ideas,â he says with a bemused chuckle) to instead pursue bluegrass.
But he soon learned about the academic exploration of bluegrass, even getting to know the historian Neil V. Rosenberg. Heâs now working on the follow-up to Rosenbergâs canonical Bluegrass: A History, trying to pull that epic forward 50 years. There will be, it seems, no dearth of new interests.
âEverything is interesting, and everything has to be interesting if youâre a writer of any kindâpoets, novelists, songwriters, journalists, all first cousins,â Jutz says, his words rushing with excitement. âYou look for meaning, living images, things that spark your creativity. Thatâs the job description.â
Artist:Tim Stafford & Thomm Jutz Hometown: Kingsport, Tennessee; and Buehl, Germany (actual) / Nashville, Tennessee (felt) Song: “Take That Shot” Album:Lost Voices Release Date: June 28, 2022 Label: Mountain Fever
In Their Words: “‘Take That Shot’ is a song about how images influence our perceptions of people and events. We cover a pretty wide range of photos in this song. From Billy the Kid, to Marilyn Monroe, to Bill Monroe and Robert Johnson. Tim and I are both very interested in history, so writing these types of songs comes natural to us.â — Thomm Jutz
“If you’re like me, you can’t pass up the chance to snap a photo in certain situations — a beautiful scene, something unusual that catches your eye. ‘Take That Shot’ is kind of unique in the bluegrass field, since there aren’t many ‘grass songs about photography, and especially historically important ‘shots.’ But they capture so much, about us individually and our culture — without words.â — Tim Stafford
Artist:Jr Williams Hometown: Irvine, Kentucky Song: âRailroad Town Without a Trainâ Album:Railroad Town Label: Mountain Fever Records
In Their Words: “When Mark Hodges and I talked about me recording a solo project, he mentioned some writers that would have material I could look through. One of the first songs was by Tim Stafford and Thomm Jutz, called ‘Railroad Town Without a Train.’ Listening to it twice, I knew I had to record it. It reminds me so much of my hometown, and the railroad yards left pretty much abandoned by a drop in the coal industry. I also realized there were many towns like this in Eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and Iâm sure the Carolinas. I knew that it would resonate with a lot of people in this region. Iâve had tremendous feedback from it and appreciate the guys for such an incredible tune.” â Jr Williams
In Their Words: “When Tim Stafford showed me this song several years ago, I knew that I wanted to record it. Things didn’t line up then, but I was elated to release it as a single following. The writers (Stafford and Graham Sharp) penned an excellent modern bluegrass song about climate change. Particularly, it excites me to present this very modern and important topic through something as old and familiar as bluegrass music, and I hope that will communicate the issue to some folks that may not hear about or consider it otherwise. ‘New November’ is the second single from an upcoming release, TBA. Joining me on the track are Dale Ann Bradley and Dan Boner on vocals, Tim Stafford on guitar, Julian Pinelli on fiddle, Jacob Metz on dobro, and Vince Ilagan on bass.” — Thomas Cassell
Tim Stafford could be renowned for any one of his many contributions to bluegrass music over his prolific career, his talents as a musician and writer having been showcased in so many of its important creations. He is perhaps most well-known as a founding member of Blue Highway, one of the most influential and decorated bands in bluegrass. Prior to that, he formed Dusty Miller in the late 1980s, and Alison Krauss hired him in 1990 as part of her band, Union Station, with whom he recorded the Grammy-winning album, Every Time You Say Goodbye.
Stafford is also an accomplished author. In 2010 with Caroline Wright, Stafford issued Still Inside: The Tony Rice Story, the authorized biography of the flatpicking icon and Bluegrass Music Hall of Fame member. As a songwriter, Tim has placed more than 250 cuts and was named IBMA’s Songwriter of the Year in 2014 and 2017. He notably co-wrote IBMA’s 2008 Song of the Year, Blue Highwayâs “Through the Window of a Train,” with Steve Gulley. Tim and Steve were frequent collaborators and released a duo album in 2010 called Dogwood. Ten years later, they created another album of co-written material, but Gulley passed away suddenly from cancer soon after it was completed, making the title, Still Here, all the more meaningful.
BGS: How does it feel to release this record? With Steveâs unexpected passing I imagine it must be a more heavy feeling than a typical record release.
TS: Yeah, I’m really glad it’s finally out. Steve was really looking forward to this record coming out. We were both excited about the songs and it ended up being his last recording, which was hard on all of us. And now itâs part of his legacy. After Steve passed, I talked to the label about maybe coming up with a different title besides Still Here, but we decided it was a very appropriate title because his music is still here. He would have been proud of it. I know that for sure.
How long had you known Steve?
I didn’t know him when I was younger, although he was around and playing. He was mainly playing up at Renfro Valley in Kentucky and he didnât travel much until he joined Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver which would have been in the late â90s or around 2000. I was playing a festival somewhere with Blue Highway and he came up to the record table and we started talking like we’d known each other forever because we knew a lot of the same people. We just hit it off. He was the one that first suggested we write and it was either the first or second time we got together we wrote four songs in one day. And all four of them got cut. I felt like at that point we had something special. We seemed to have a wavelength that we could touch off of each other. That’s really rare. You don’t get that with a lot of people.
The subject matter in the songs on this record seems very personal, and often about people you know. I would imagine that itâs sort of therapeutic, maybe in the same way that journaling might be, to write about personal things like that. Is that how you feel about it?
Thatâs a good way to put it and I did used to journal. Some of them, like âBack When It Was Easy,â are just about general topics that we know about. Whereas “Long Way Around the Mountain” and “She Threw Herself Away” are about things that actually happened that we chronicled about friends. And sometimes they are big stories that you just can’t stay away from. “She Comes Back to Me When We Sing” is a story we’d both seen on Facebook about this guy’s mother who was in advanced stages of Alzheimer’s and didn’t know anybody until she sang with her son. And when that happened, she remembered all the words and she could remember everything. We thought that was a really inspirational story and deserved to be a song.
You’ve been writing for so long that it seems like youâve been able to build the skill of telling a story through song, rather than narrating a timeline to music.
Yes, that’s where it’s at. That’s where the craft comes in that you only develop by doing it. I really didn’t know how to write a song when I started. But you learn little things along the way through trial and error. It’s like anything but it’s really difficult to learn how to do something like write a song out of a book — although I have a whole collection of them here. I have lots of books about songwriting like Jimmy Webbâs Tunesmith and Sheila Davisâ The Craft of Lyric Writing which is really good. You can learn tips, but you’re not going to learn how to write from a book. So it’s a matter of doing it.
I don’t remember exactly where I heard it, but I think I remember Jimmy Webb talking about writing âWichita Linemanâ and him saying that it was fully fictitious. But that he felt like, as a songwriter, he should be able to write about people he didn’t know. That he should be able to understand people well enough to write a story that was convincing without it having to be true. I could be misremembering that, though.
You may not be. I think that there’s actually a book out about that song, âWichita Lineman,â that I finished here last year and I believe you’re right and he’s right. I think that being able to tell a story about somebody you don’t know is important. There’s a song that I wrote really early on called âMidwestern Townâ that Ronnie Bowman recorded. That song is totally fictional. I didn’t know anybody like the character in that song. But I’ve had a lot of people come up and say that they did know someone like that or that it could have been them and that song made a big difference to them. It was a comforting song. Youâve got to be able to get inside people’s heads and think the way that they would. You have to know what your character might do in any given scenario. I can’t remember all the times I’ve been co-writing and said, âWhat would this guy do?â
Have you written songs as long as you’ve been playing guitar? When did you started writing songs?
I guess I wrote all the way back when I first started playing guitar, but I wasn’t really serious about it. I had written some songs before I played with Alison in the early â90s and we actually recorded one of them, but it never came out which was my fault. She wanted to put an instrumental Iâd written called âCanadian Baconâ on Every Time You Say Goodbye, but I talked her out of it. I told her we needed to record âCluck Old Henâ because we were so psyched about Ron [Block] being in the band and his playing on that. And I don’t regret that though it probably would have meant more money.
You were in Union Station from 1990 to â92, right? That was a very cool lineup of that band. How did you feel about it at the time?
I was blown away by it. I loved it and it was really cool that it worked out because the first time she talked to me about playing with her, it was back when I was in a group called The Boys in the Band. We played at SPBGMA and her band was there but her guitar player, Dave Denman, was leaving. She called me a few weeks after that and asked if Iâd be interested. At that point, she had only recorded Too Late to Cry and I was really impressed with the songs, with John Pennellâs writing, and her singing. I had already committed to playing with a different group though so I had to decline.
About two or three years later I had started a group called Dusty Miller that she was a fan of. That band had Barry Bales and Adam Steffey in it. The three of us kind of grew up together playing music. We’re all from Kingsport, Tennessee. I actually gave Adam his first mandolin lesson, which is such a joke. [Laughs] Adam didn’t know anything about the instrument at all at the time. I tried to show him some stuff and I just kept thinking, âThat guy’s never gonna get it.â And I barely knew how to play myself but I tried to show him âBluegrass Breakdownâ and he just couldn’t get it. He got with a different teacher after that and got real serious about it. The next time I saw him play, I was like, âWhat happened here?â [Laughs] It was like the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I take absolutely no credit for that whatsoever.
Barry Bales was a student of James Alan Shelton. And James and I both taught at the Guitar Shop in Kingsport. That’s where I met Adam and gave him that lesson, and I met Barry down there, too. We all three ended up playing in The Boys in the Band. And then we started Dusty Miller. Alison liked that rhythm section so she offered the job to all three of us at the same time, and we took it. This was early 1990 and we played our first show in May — I think it was at the Station Inn. It was just incredible. We played some amazing places, but it was during the period of the band when we were all traveling in a van and staying in one hotel room.
I was playing with Alison when I met Tony Rice. We ended up playing a lot of shows together because he and Alison had the same agent and were on the same label. I never will forget the first time I really ever talked to Tony much. We were playing right before him at Winterhawk (which is now Grey Fox) and I broke a string on the last song we played. We got a standing ovation so I was backstage digging around, trying to find a string so we could do an encore. And Tony walks over with âthe antiqueâ and says, âHey, man, here, play this.â I had a smile from ear-to-ear and Alison was smiling too.
What was it like getting to put that biography of Tony together? What led to that?
Well, a few years after that, after I left Union Station and started Blue Highway, I was still playing shows with Tony because Blue Highway had signed with Rounder, too. We were at a show with Tony and I said, âMan, have you ever thought about a biography?â And he said, âWell, actually, yeah, I have thought of that. But I’ll tell you what,â he said, âI think you’d be the ideal person to write it.â I said OK and started on it. That was about 2000 and it took 10 years to finish.
Three years into it, Caroline Wright came on board through Pam [Rice, Tonyâs wife]. Caroline is a journalist and her mom was a member of the bluegrass community from New York state. Caroline lived in Hawaii at that time and had written a really well-done article about Tony in Listener magazine. I had started Tony’s book, but I was bogged down with it and wasn’t making a lot of progress and Pam suggested that Caroline come on board. We did four or five major, huge interviews with Tony that could have each been a book by themselves. And when we started transcribing them, we realized that Tony was so eloquent that we had to put it in Tony’s words. We couldn’t make it a narrative biography. That’s why it’s laid out the way it is. Itâs chronological but in Tony’s words.
I’m really glad that we got to do it. Somebody would have done a book on him eventually, but I’m really glad that it came out before he left us. He’s one of those generational talents. I just don’t know that there’s going to be many people ever come along again who have an impact like that. He’s in the same league as Earl Scruggs, a top talent who created a language on the instrument.
So, itâs been a weird year, obviously. What have you been doing during this time?
Iâve been doing a lot of co-writing over Zoom. The other day I wrote my one-hundred-and-fourteenth song since the pandemic started.
Whoa!
Thomm Jutz and I’ve written 40 or so, just the two of us and, you know, you just get into the habit of doing it every week. I feel like Zoom is going to stick around and be the standard after the pandemic. I think it’s changed the way a lot of people think about co-writing. It makes you more disciplined and more productive. The technology just makes it easy. There’s no reason now for me to make a trip to Nashville, which is like four and a half hours, and get a hotel and all that when I can do all of it from home on my computer.
When youâre writing or doing work, are you the sort of person that has to change into regular peopleâs clothes to feel productive, or can you stay in your pajamas and be productive?
I think I’ve written at least a hundred of those 114 songs in my pajamas. [Laughs] Iâm not going to dress up, I just want to be comfortable.
Photo credit: Ben Bateson
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